Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread hw
Dan Espen writes: > hw writes: > >> Dominik Vogt writes: >>> No, in the output of the X server, wherever that goes. >> >> After trying to get systemd to create log files, it apparently goes into >> /var/log/Xorg.0.log (where it might have gone to before). Alas, no >> output is added to the log

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread Dan Espen
hw writes: > Dan Espen writes: > >> hw writes: >> >>> Dominik Vogt writes: No, in the output of the X server, wherever that goes. >>> >>> After trying to get systemd to create log files, it apparently goes into >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log (where it might have gone to before). Alas, no >>> ou

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:30:14PM +0200, hw wrote: > Dominik Vogt writes: > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:58:51PM +0200, hw wrote: > >> Stefan Blachmann writes: > >> > I was annoyed and looked into that. > >> > session[re]store.js is a *horrible* mess of code, and to understand > >> > its work

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 11:23:56PM +0200, hw wrote: > Dominik Vogt writes: > >> What could be causing this? Is Firefox somehow claiming the entire > >> screen because it tries to place the windows itself, making fvwm figure > >> there is no good place to put them? Without FixedPPosition, the win

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread hw
Dominik Vogt writes: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:30:14PM +0200, hw wrote: > [...] >> IIUC, I explicitly told the window manager to ignore what the program >> tries to do about the placement of the windows it creates, and yet the >> window manager still allows the program to do (part of) what it

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread hw
Dan Espen writes: > hw writes: > >> Dan Espen writes: >> >>> hw writes: >>> Dominik Vogt writes: > No, in the output of the X server, wherever that goes. After trying to get systemd to create log files, it apparently goes into /var/log/Xorg.0.log (where it might have g

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread Viktor Griph
Den mån 27 aug. 2018 00:27hw skrev: > With Firefox, I think using FixedPPosition, !UsePPosition fix it as > well, but the problem is that for some reason, fvwm does not place the > windows according to the placement policy. As you describe it it sounds as if Firefox maps the new window before re

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:36:58PM +0200, hw wrote: > Dominik Vogt writes: > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:30:14PM +0200, hw wrote: > > > [...] > >> IIUC, I explicitly told the window manager to ignore what the program > >> tries to do about the placement of the windows it creates, and yet the

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:43:59PM +0200, hw wrote: > > If you use a .xinitrc you can have the WM output directed where ever > > you like otherwise the distro will pick a place. > > I tried that by redirecting the output of fvwm into a file from within > .xinitrc. The file was created buy remaine

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread hw
Dominik Vogt writes: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:43:59PM +0200, hw wrote: >> > If you use a .xinitrc you can have the WM output directed where ever >> > you like otherwise the distro will pick a place. >> >> I tried that by redirecting the output of fvwm into a file from within >> .xinitrc. Th

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread hw
Dominik Vogt writes: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:36:58PM +0200, hw wrote: >> Dominik Vogt writes: >> >> > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:30:14PM +0200, hw wrote: >> >> > [...] >> >> IIUC, I explicitly told the window manager to ignore what the program >> >> tries to do about the placement of the

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread hw
Viktor Griph writes: > Den mån 27 aug. 2018 00:27hw skrev: > >> With Firefox, I think using FixedPPosition, !UsePPosition fix it as >> well, but the problem is that for some reason, fvwm does not place the >> windows according to the placement policy. > > As you describe it it sounds as if Firef

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 02:49:05AM +0200, hw wrote: > Viktor Griph writes: > > > Den mån 27 aug. 2018 00:27hw skrev: > > > >> With Firefox, I think using FixedPPosition, !UsePPosition fix it as > >> well, but the problem is that for some reason, fvwm does not place the > >> windows according to

Re: FVWM: deprecated? placing firestorm windows?

2018-08-27 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 02:51:58AM +0200, hw wrote: > Dominik Vogt writes: > >> Or does the module create its own output that needs to be > >> redirected when the module is being started? > > > > What module? > > FvwmConsole We're talking about fvwm output, not module output. Personally, I star