Dominik Vogt <dominik.v...@gmx.de> writes:

> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:30:14PM +0200, hw wrote:

> [...]
>> IIUC, I explicitly told the window manager to ignore what the program
>> tries to do about the placement of the windows it creates, and yet the
>> window manager still allows the program to do (part of) what it wants
>> rather than what I told the window manager to do about the window
>> placement.
>> 
>> So either the window manager is ignoring what I'm telling it to do, or
>> the program is able to override the window manager, or both.
>
> That's exactly what I wrote.  The window manager cannot know that
> the application lies about the user's wish.  The situation is
> impossible to detect.

I don't understand: The window manager does not need to detect lies when
I tell it not to allow a program to move its windows and not to allow it
to create them at a particular position.  It only needs to enforce thes
policies, and the placement policy.

In this case, fvwm appears to be enforcing the creation and movement
policies correctly and the placement policy only partially.

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