On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:36:58PM +0200, hw wrote:
> Dominik Vogt <dominik.v...@gmx.de> writes:
> 
> > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:30:14PM +0200, hw wrote:
> 
> > [...]
> >> IIUC, I explicitly told the window manager to ignore what the program
> >> tries to do about the placement of the windows it creates, and yet the
> >> window manager still allows the program to do (part of) what it wants
> >> rather than what I told the window manager to do about the window
> >> placement.
> >> 
> >> So either the window manager is ignoring what I'm telling it to do, or
> >> the program is able to override the window manager, or both.
> >
> > That's exactly what I wrote.  The window manager cannot know that
> > the application lies about the user's wish.  The situation is
> > impossible to detect.
> 
> I don't understand: The window manager does not need to detect lies when
> I tell it not to allow a program to move its windows and not to allow it
> to create them at a particular position.  It only needs to enforce thes
> policies, and the placement policy.
> 
> In this case, fvwm appears to be enforcing the creation and movement
> policies correctly and the placement policy only partially.

Then please enlighten us with the output of

  bugopts explainwindowplacement on

so we can see what's going on.  Fvwm just does what it's told, we
haven't coded a glass ball inside it.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Dominik Vogt

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