Re: FVWM: Is there a way to stop a window from de-iconifying itself?

2025-07-23 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 23 Jul 2025 12:13:09 -0400 Chris Siebenmann wrote: > > I use GNU Emacs (and fvwm3), and unfortunately a small irritation with > this is that GNU Emacs has a quite irritating habit of de-iconifying > (and I think raising itself to the top of the window stack) any time it > finishes a long

Re: FVWM: Alternative XServers and fvwm

2025-06-27 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 at 22:51, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:16:57PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > P.S.: I'll send the attachment using wetransfer. Some Mailserver > > thinks they are spam. > > Doesn't work either. Do you have a non-fvwm account that accepts > tar and tgz a

Re: FVWM: What will we do in Wayland times?

2025-05-08 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 09:43:13AM +0200, Parragh Szabolcs wrote: > I know that Wayland is coming and slowly but steadily my frustration grows: > Will I have to move to an other window manager? I would have said so. See: https://gist.github.com/ThomasAdam/5377540b3025f7f04735d96ee64354fd Kindly

Re: FVWM: fvwm crashing occassionally on window placement

2025-04-14 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 02:42:08PM +0100, n952162 wrote: > Does anybody else have this problem, or does anyone else have a suggestion? It's an xlib issue which mkight be fixed in some distros. -- Thomas

Re: FVWM: SnapGrid offset?

2025-04-14 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, Apr 06, 2025 at 01:32:13PM -0400, Stephen Talley wrote: > It appears the SnapGrid is anchored at 0, 0. Is there a way to provide an > offset? I don't want to change my grid size, just the offset of where the > grid is anchored. No such option exists. > ╰─> fvwm --version > fvwm 2.7.0 comp

Re: FVWM: change in focus follow mouse 2.6.8 to 2.7.0

2025-02-21 Thread Mark Nejedlo
I do not believe this was ever the default behavior. The FvwmAuto module will do this though. Try adding '+ I Module FvwmAuto 300' (the 300 is the delay in ms after you focus the window) to your StartFunction. Mark On Wed, Jan 29, 2025, at 3:20 PM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > I have just update

Re: FVWM: controlling window placement

2024-11-28 Thread Paul Fox
dominik wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 06:52:37PM -0500, Paul Fox wrote: > > I feel like I used to know how to do this, or maybe I didn't, and it > > worked properly in the past and I've changed something unknowingly. > > > > How do I tell CleverPlacement that some areas of the screen are of

Re: FVWM: controlling window placement

2024-11-27 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 06:52:37PM -0500, Paul Fox wrote: > I feel like I used to know how to do this, or maybe I didn't, and it > worked properly in the past and I've changed something unknowingly. > > How do I tell CleverPlacement that some areas of the screen are off > limits? As things are, wi

Re: FVWM: controlling window placement

2024-11-22 Thread Paul Fox
Nevermind. The answer is "EwmhBaseStruts", and the behavior I'm seeing is because I recently increased the size of all my buttons. So there was still a reserved area -- it just wasn't big enough. BTW, I'm amused that I found the answer by asking ChatGPT: > I use fvwm as my window manager. H

Re: FVWM: OT. xhole

2024-11-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi, Am Di den 12. Nov 2024 um 17:52 schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 16:39, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > Unfortunately it seems to be completely vanished from the net. Does > > anybody know where to get it from? > > Well. See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xhole.png > > Note

Re: FVWM: OT. xhole

2024-11-12 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 16:39, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Unfortunately it seems to be completely vanished from the net. Does > anybody know where to get it from? Well. See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xhole.png Note also the program code which might work. Kindly, Thomas

Re: FVWM: GotoPage key binding works only on fvwm restart

2024-09-30 Thread Thomas Adam
Hi Brad, Send me your config, please. Kindly, Thomas On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 at 19:02, Brad Robertson wrote: > I'm using fvwm3-1.1.0 on FreeBSD 14.1, with one virtual desktop of five > pages defined so: > > DeskTopSize5x1 > DeskTopName0 Main > EdgeScroll 10 10 >

Re: FVWM: Mouse binding breaks Firefox? [SOLVED]

2024-04-04 Thread Roland Freikamp
Hi, thanks to somiaj, this is now solved: It seems to be a bug in Firefox, and there's a workaround: Set the Firefox-setting "widget.gtk.ignore-bogus-leave-notify" to "1". Details: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/issues/992 Big thanks to somiaj, Roland On 2024-03-25 17:02:14 +0100, Roland Frei

Re: FVWM: WindowList issue

2024-04-02 Thread Pavel Vávra
Hi, you can ignore my last question, maybe it was my mistake, it works fine now. Thank you again. Regards, P. On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:06:55 -0600 Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:47 AM Pavel Vávra wrote: > > > > I use fvwm 2.6.8 from Devuan oldstable distribution (I thin

Re: FVWM: WindowList issue

2024-04-02 Thread Pavel Vávra
Hi, thank you very much. I Try to delete line with Menustyle * ItemFormat from default config and it shows me now Geometry when I want to see it. The same with your recommended ItemFormat string. Because old config has no such line, I decide to continue with default one. But in both situations

Re: FVWM: WindowList issue

2024-04-01 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:47 AM Pavel Vávra wrote: > > I use fvwm 2.6.8 from Devuan oldstable distribution (I think its same > binary as from Debian oldstable). I am testing default fvwm config and I > found different results when I try to use WindowList from my old config and > when I want to

Re: FVWM: Is Move in fvwm3 supposed to be (current) RandR screen relative?

2024-03-07 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 9:45 AM Chris Siebenmann wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:45 AM Chris Siebenmann > > wrote: > > > Is this intended behavior? I can't spot a strong statement either way in > > > the current documentation for Move, although some of the wording sounds > > > a bit odd if

Re: FVWM: Is Move in fvwm3 supposed to be (current) RandR screen relative?

2024-03-07 Thread Chris Siebenmann
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:45 AM Chris Siebenmann > wrote: > > Is this intended behavior? I can't spot a strong statement either way in > > the current documentation for Move, although some of the wording sounds > > a bit odd if explicit Move positions are supposed to be screen relative. > > Move

Re: FVWM: Is Move in fvwm3 supposed to be (current) RandR screen relative?

2024-03-06 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:51 AM Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:45 AM Chris Siebenmann > wrote: > > > > > > Is this intended behavior? I can't spot a strong statement either way in > > the current documentation for Move, although some of the wording sounds > > a bit odd if ex

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-09 Thread hw
On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 21:02 +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 8/2/24 13:51, hw wrote: > > It has become a very limited option years ago and is basically > > obsolete. Just try to run, for example, firefox on a remote host via > > X11 forwarding. I suspect that anything that might use acceleratio

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-09 Thread hw
On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 18:10 +, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 05:50:44AM +0100, hw wrote: > > I still don't see why it shouldn't be possible. I never expected a > > port, and I understand that the architectures of X11 and Wayland are > > very different. Yet why shouldn't it be p

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-09 Thread hw
On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 12:38 -0800, mark_at_yahoo wrote: > On 2/7/24 20:09, hw wrote: > > On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 13:53 +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > > > I hope to be able to go on with Xorg until I live. > > > > Or use wayland and start living now :) Living in the past seldwhen is > > a good ide

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-08 Thread mark_at_yahoo
On 2/7/24 20:09, hw wrote: On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 13:53 +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I hope to be able to go on with Xorg until I live. Or use wayland and start living now :) Living in the past seldwhen is a good idea. Except when the past is better: More capable, complete, and highly evolv

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-08 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 05:50:44AM +0100, hw wrote: > I still don't see why it shouldn't be possible. I never expected a > port, and I understand that the architectures of X11 and Wayland are > very different. Yet why shouldn't it be possible to create a > compositor that provides the configurabi

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-08 Thread Stuart Longland
On 8/2/24 13:51, hw wrote: It has become a very limited option years ago and is basically obsolete. Just try to run, for example, firefox on a remote host via X11 forwarding. I suspect that anything that might use acceleration powers of a graphics card doesn't work, and that kinda leaves only x

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-08 Thread Stuart Longland
On 8/2/24 11:55, Chris Bennett wrote: How many here have grey beards? I hope "somebody" (without grey beard but with a lot of time) makes a sane X11 emulation layer. On the other hand, OpenBSD is alive and has it's own heavily patched Xorg called Xenocara and they most likely won't let that go.

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-07 Thread hw
On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 22:05 +, Thomas Adam wrote: > [...] > GTK and QT dropping support for XLib, that's the time to worry -- as there > could, in theory, be a time when Firefox or Chromium no longer run under X > directly, without forcing a Wayland compositor. That's the real > nail-in-the-co

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-07 Thread hw
On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 22:42 -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote: > I'm running wayland right now (with the KDE desktop) and can fire up > a local xterm or ssh to a different machine and run xterm and it > works just fine. Does this have to be done from an X11 client (like xterm) so you're doing it from wi

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-07 Thread hw
On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 13:53 +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2024, Robert Heller wrote: > > > Afterall, no one needs more then one computer... > > I suppose there is a smiley missing after the sentence :-) > > My usual way of working (post-COVID, from home) involves usually one or

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-07 Thread hw
On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 10:55 -0500, Paul Fox wrote: > I realize this discussion is drifting away from fvwm, but... > > ...a major part of my daily activity has always depended on X11's > ability to function on remote displays. Does that functionality > (i.e. "DISPLAY=remotehost:0" vs. "DISPLAY=:0"

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-07 Thread Chris Bennett
On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 07:30:05PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2024 Sun, 4 Feb 01:14:21 +0100 > Martin Cermak scripsit: > > On Sun 2024-02-04 09:51 , Stuart Longland wrote: > > [...] > > > > IMHO for FVWM to survive, the FVWM community needs to focus on > > wayland. And sta

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-05 Thread John McCue
On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 07:30:05PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Anno domini 2024 Sun, 4 Feb 01:14:21 +0100 Martin Cermak scripsit: On Sun 2024-02-04 09:51 , Stuart Longland wrote: [...] IMHO for FVWM to survive, the FVWM community needs to focus on wayland. And start from scratch... I

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread mark_at_yahoo
I'm going to document my own hatred for Wayland here, not that it will make any difference to its unstoppable adoption and the subsequent likely demise of FVWM. Note that I'm not an expert on the subject(s) nor do I have the time or inclination to become one as I'm 100% convinced that what I do

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2024 Sun, 4 Feb 01:14:21 +0100 Martin Cermak scripsit: > On Sun 2024-02-04 09:51 , Stuart Longland wrote: > [...] > > IMHO for FVWM to survive, the FVWM community needs to focus on > wayland. And start from scratch... I wish this happens. How many here have grey beards? I hope "

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
- Are people using FVWM for its looks? (Themability) Looks/functionallity: I want the MWM look/functionallity. Yes, I too like a simple mwm-like look, but even more I like the complete and easy customizability. I think there are proofs on the net of completely different looks. AND functiona

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread Martin Cermak
On Sun 2024-02-04 09:51 , Stuart Longland wrote: > So either some of us need to step up and get familiar with how X11 works > (unlikely, it seems like a monumental task)… or we need to "pack our bags", > so to speak It hurts, but my sense is that the above is right. IMHO the distributions effe

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-03 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 4 Feb 2024 09:51:45 +1000 Stuart Longland wrote: > > On 4/2/24 08:05, Thomas Adam wrote: > I think this is where we need to consider what the FVWM/Wayland re-write > would look like. What can be practically brought across under the > constraints of the `wlroots` back-end (or Wayland

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-03 Thread Stuart Longland
On 4/2/24 08:05, Thomas Adam wrote: Wayland is not Xlib. I have been, in my spare time, looking at the XServer code and all the other libraries surrounding it, and looking at open MRs on Xorg's Gitlab instance -- which means I am going to help keep XServer alive -- which by extension means fvwm.

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-03 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 10:42:37PM -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote: > Now, I don't know if you could use the really old-style remote display > stuff where ssh is not involved. Xwayland really is a proper X server > so the ability to do it is probably down in there somewhere. Yes-and-no -- in that, al

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-03 Thread Mandar Mitra
Lucio Chiappetti wrote (Sat, Feb 03, 2024 at 01:53:29PM +0100): > I hope to be able to go on with Xorg until I live. Amen! :-)

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-03 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024, Robert Heller wrote: Afterall, no one needs more then one computer... I suppose there is a smiley missing after the sentence :-) My usual way of working (post-COVID, from home) involves usually one or two ssh sessions on two different remote work machines. Quite occasiona

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Stuart Longland
On 3/2/24 01:55, Paul Fox wrote: I realize this discussion is drifting away from fvwm, but... ...a major part of my daily activity has always depended on X11's ability to function on remote displays. Does that functionality (i.e. "DISPLAY=remotehost:0" vs. "DISPLAY=:0") exist if either or both

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Jason Tibbitts
> John McCue writes: > I heard of waypipe, but from what I understand is for it to work, the > remote system needs to have wayland too. Well, it's for running a wayland application on a remote machine displaying on your local wayland-running machine. If you want to run an X11 application on

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread John McCue
On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 06:11:01PM -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote: Robert Heller writes: I believe Wayland does not support that sort of thing. It does, actually, but not exactly the same way. Look up "waypipe". One does get the impression that it's all an afterthought, though. I heard of w

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Paul Fox
robert wrote: > > At Fri, 02 Feb 2024 18:11:01 -0600 Jason Tibbitts wrote: > > > > > > Robert Heller writes: > > > > > I believe Wayland does not support that sort of thing. > > > > It does, actually, but not exactly the same way. Look up "waypipe". > > One does get the impres

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 02 Feb 2024 18:11:01 -0600 Jason Tibbitts wrote: > > > Robert Heller writes: > > > I believe Wayland does not support that sort of thing. > > It does, actually, but not exactly the same way. Look up "waypipe". > One does get the impression that it's all an afterthought, though.

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Jason Tibbitts
> Robert Heller writes: > I believe Wayland does not support that sort of thing. It does, actually, but not exactly the same way. Look up "waypipe". One does get the impression that it's all an afterthought, though. - J<

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:55:46 -0500 Paul Fox wrote: > > I realize this discussion is drifting away from fvwm, but... > > ...a major part of my daily activity has always depended on X11's > ability to function on remote displays. Does that functionality > (i.e. "DISPLAY=remotehost:0" vs. "DISPLA

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Chris Siebenmann
> Does wayland have an X11 compatibility feature? Wayland has an 'XWayland' layer that allows regular X clients to talk to a Wayland server. However, this does not support special X clients like window managers or (as I understand it) automation tools like 'xdotool'. So you can run an X-based edi

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Paul Fox
I realize this discussion is drifting away from fvwm, but... ...a major part of my daily activity has always depended on X11's ability to function on remote displays. Does that functionality (i.e. "DISPLAY=remotehost:0" vs. "DISPLAY=:0") exist if either or both of the hosts is based on Wayland?

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread ml-fvwm
Also a bunch of new DE/WM and soon XFCE. There will still be diversity, but a new one. However I'm not sure Xorg will be out soon there are still missing features on Wayland, like screen recording (available only on Gnome), which means that softwares like OBS don't work on it. Le 02/02/2024 à

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 02 Feb 2024 04:28:44 +0100 hw wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 14:02 -0700, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: > > > > > > so is there finally a version that works for wayland? > > > > > No, fvwm only works with xorg and most likely won't be port

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-01 Thread hw
On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 14:02 -0700, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: > > > > so is there finally a version that works for wayland? > > > No, fvwm only works with xorg and most likely won't be ported. > > > What are the differences between fvwm2 and fvwm3? > > >

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-01-30 Thread Chris Siebenmann
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: > > so is there finally a version that works for wayland? > > > No, fvwm only works with xorg and most likely won't be ported. To add some information, a 'port' would be more difficult than it sounds. The architecture of Wayland does not have an equival

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-01-30 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: > > so is there finally a version that works for wayland? > No, fvwm only works with xorg and most likely won't be ported. > What are the differences between fvwm2 and fvwm3? > See https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/discussions/878 jaimos

Re: FVWM: Abort from FRenderRender -> XRenderCreatePicture()

2024-01-29 Thread Mark Hills
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024, Mark Hills wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2024, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 6:07 AM Mark Hills wrote: > > > > > > I'm experiencing rare (but annoying) whole X session crashes, since > > > mid-2023. > > > > > > > There was a change in libX11 that caused fvw

Re: FVWM: Abort from FRenderRender -> XRenderCreatePicture()

2024-01-23 Thread Mark Hills
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 6:07 AM Mark Hills wrote: > > > > I'm experiencing rare (but annoying) whole X session crashes, since > > mid-2023. > > > > There was a change in libX11 that caused fvwm crashes due to event > handling. That has been fixed in

Re: FVWM: Abort from FRenderRender -> XRenderCreatePicture()

2024-01-23 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 6:07 AM Mark Hills wrote: > > I'm experiencing rare (but annoying) whole X session crashes, since > mid-2023. > There was a change in libX11 that caused fvwm crashes due to event handling. That has been fixed in fvwm3, and the fix isn't in fvwm2 yet, but you can find the p

Re: FVWM: FVWM3: 2 monitors with different geometries?

2023-12-23 Thread Mandar Mitra
Jaimos Skriletz wrote (Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 12:45:34PM -0700): > Yes, you can have different resolutions. I think you may run into > issues using DesktopConfiguration shared with different resolutions, > but DesktopConfiguration per-monitor will work just fine. FVWM3 installation went without a hi

Re: FVWM: FVWM3: 2 monitors with different geometries?

2023-12-22 Thread Mandar Mitra
Jaimos Skriletz wrote (Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 12:45:34PM -0700): > On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:42 AM Mandar Mitra wrote: > > > > > > Browsing around FVWM3's git repo, and looking at > > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/blob/main/dev-docs/NEW-COMMANDS.md#hierarchy-and-specification > > in particular,

Re: FVWM: FVWM3: 2 monitors with different geometries?

2023-12-22 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:42 AM Mandar Mitra wrote: > > > Browsing around FVWM3's git repo, and looking at > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/blob/main/dev-docs/NEW-COMMANDS.md#hierarchy-and-specification > in particular, it seems like fvwm3 will allow me to have independent > desktops with app

Re: FVWM: Writing a module?

2023-12-02 Thread Dov Grobgeld
In case there is interest, in the end I wrote the utility in python/gtk, under the name xtm (x-input-mapper). In the README.md I describe how to create fvwm2 mappings for it. See: https://github.com/dov/x-tablet-mapper Regards, On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 9:29 AM Dov Grobgeld wrote: > > Thanks for

Re: FVWM: Rocky 9, Konsole, and FVWM3

2023-11-30 Thread R Tapia
Hi, I was on the right track. It was actually pretty easy to track this down and fix it. I filed a konsole bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477800 I was able to fix my environment by rebuilding console with a small change. I cloned the konsole repository: https:/

Re: FVWM: Writing a module?

2023-11-27 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Thanks for the tip! I thought that if writing a module was easy, it would be an easy way to better blend in with my fvwm theme. So I'll probably write in (python) gtk, which was actually my original plan. Regards, On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:58 PM Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 a

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-09-20 Thread Chris Siebenmann
[reviving an old thread that I lost track of] > On Sun, 14 May 2023, Thomas Adam wrote: > > On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:12, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > >> So the problem is an incompatibility between xterm and fvwm syntethic > >> events (or a syntax problem with PointerKey ?) > > > No. By default gene

Re: FVWM: fvwm3: how to make qmmp2 sticky?

2023-08-01 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 19:31, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > using fvwm3 and > > Style "qmmp" NoTitle, WindowListSkip, Sticky, StaysOnBottom > > qmmp2 (https://sourceforge.net/projects/qmmp-dev/files/qmmp/2.1/) is not > sticky. The other attributes from the list work as expected.

Re: FVWM: google meet presentation versus fvwm viewports

2023-05-31 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 10:44:10AM +0200, Martin Cermak wrote: > This is annoying. It forces me to keep my firefox presentation > in an active viewport. How can I work this around? You would need to detect if the window changes state here to be either iconic, or a smaller version of itself, etc.

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 15 May 2023, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I'll be reading the libinput synaptics and synclient manpages. I've done this exercise and some tests ELAN076D: 00 04F3:3244 Mouse id=10 [slave pointer (2)] ELAN076D: 00 04F3:3244 Touchpadid=11 [slave pointer (2)]

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 15 May 2023, Mandar Mitra wrote: You mention your laptop is new, so it is likely that the touchpad supports multitouch and other goodies. yes, brand new. So the OS (Xubuntu 22.04) Synaptics driver and libinput (probably the correct, "modern" option). xinput returns among others (wh

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sun, 14 May 2023, Thomas Adam wrote: On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:12, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: So the problem is an incompatibility between xterm and fvwm syntethic events (or a syntax problem with PointerKey ?) No. By default generating synthetic events is considered a security risk. which

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Mandar Mitra
Lucio Chiappetti wrote (Sun, May 14, 2023 at 11:11:41PM +0200): > This has nothing to do with xdotool. If in ANOTHER terminal I do > > sleep 5; xdotool click 2 > > and then qjuickly enough move the mouse to an xterm, the MB1 selection *is* > pasted. But of course this is a bit clumsy. > > So the

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Mandar Mitra
Lucio Chiappetti wrote (Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:44:36PM +0200): > I am since ages a keen fvwm user (2.6.8 bundled with ubuntu), mostly on a > desktop PC, with a personal configuration described in > http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/WWW/Opinions/window.html. > > In particular (independently of

Re: FVWM: Resizing

2023-05-14 Thread Chris Bennett
On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 11:48:51PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Am Mo den 8. Mai 2023 um 19:24 schrieb Thomas Adam: > > On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 09:08, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > > what is the best method to react to resizing displays? Be it on beamer > > > or in a virtualbox. > > > > > > Usually, fvwm

Re: FVWM: Resizing

2023-05-14 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Am Mo den 8. Mai 2023 um 19:24 schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 09:08, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > what is the best method to react to resizing displays? Be it on beamer > > or in a virtualbox. > > > > Usually, fvwm does not apply to such an event and need to be restarted. > > But this is

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-14 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:12, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > So the problem is an incompatibility between xterm and fvwm syntethic > events (or a syntax problem with PointerKey ?) > > Is there a solution ? No. By default generating synthetic events is considered a security risk. which is why so many

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-14 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sat, 13 May 2023, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick copy-and-paste of text selecting it with mouse button 1 (MB1) and pasting with mouse button 2 (MB2). Or shift-MB1 and shift-MB2 in my favourite editor (Hessling ... Editor), due to a pecu

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-14 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sat, 13 May 2023, E Frank Ball wrote: On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:44:36PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick > copy-and-paste of text selecting it with mouse button 1 (MB1) and pasting > with mouse button 2 (MB2). Or shift-MB1 and s

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-13 Thread E Frank Ball
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:44:36PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > > In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick > copy-and-paste of text selecting it with mouse button 1 (MB1) and pasting > with mouse button 2 (MB2). Or shift-MB1 and shift-MB2 in my favourite > editor (The

Re: FVWM: Oddity with Mouse 2 using fvwm 2.6 & 2.7 on Suse Tumbleweed

2023-05-13 Thread mark_at_yahoo
Update #1: Many apologies for having sent the original of this message as a reply to the wrong thread. In the future I should probably move to the forums where it's harder to make this kind of noob mistake. Update #2: I now see that what I'm requesting in "tl;dnr" below isn't supported. Instead,

Re: FVWM: fvwm: ../../src/xcb_io.c:626: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed.

2023-05-11 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:21 PM Thomas Adam wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:36:48AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > sometimes fvwm 2.70 (built by Debian) dies with > > Please take a look at the last master commit in the fvwm2 repo. > > AFAIK, this should fix the problem. T

Re: FVWM: Oddity with Mouse 2 using fvwm 2.6 & 2.7 on Suse Tumbleweed

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 01:26:45PM -0700, mark_at_yahoo wrote: > AddToFunc StartFunction > + I ImagePath > $[HOME]/.local/share/icons/hicolor/48x48:$[HOME]/.local/share/icons/hicolor/64x64:$[HOME]/.local/share/icons/hicolor/72x72:+ Setting ImagePath here is a little counter-intuitive. It's a g

Re: FVWM: fvwm: ../../src/xcb_io.c:626: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed.

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:36:48AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > sometimes fvwm 2.70 (built by Debian) dies with Please take a look at the last master commit in the fvwm2 repo. AFAIK, this should fix the problem. Kindly, Thomas

Re: FVWM: Oddity with Mouse 2 using fvwm 2.6 & 2.7 on Suse Tumbleweed

2023-05-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Am Mi den 10. Mai 2023 um 22:16 schrieb mark_at_yahoo: > So FVWM must be picking up my icon path and icons, right? Why do they > work for launchers, but not when iconifying applications? It might be that the application brings its own icons. Search for _NET_WM_ICON in the xprop output. I myself d

Re: FVWM: Oddity with Mouse 2 using fvwm 2.6 & 2.7 on Suse Tumbleweed

2023-05-10 Thread mark_at_yahoo
On 5/10/23 2:39 AM, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I cannot say about the other troubles but I do think, the use > inside of StrartFunction is somewhat wrong. > > I have that ImagePath set at the very begin of my .fvwm/config and it > seems to work well. > > Further more, the $HOME does not to be quoted fr

Re: FVWM: Oddity with Mouse 2 using fvwm 2.6 & 2.7 on Suse Tumbleweed

2023-05-10 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi, Am Di den 9. Mai 2023 um 21:26 schrieb mark_at_yahoo: > AddToFunc StartFunction > + I ImagePath > $[HOME]/.local/share/icons/hicolor/48x48:$[HOME]/.local/share/icons/hicolor/64x64:$[HOME]/.local/share/icons/hicolor/72x72:+ I cannot say about the other troubles but I do think, the use insi

Re: FVWM: Oddity with Mouse 2 using fvwm 2.6 & 2.7 on Suse Tumbleweed

2023-05-09 Thread mark_at_yahoo
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 13:48:40 -0700 Steven Lembark wrote: Insall SuSE Tumbleweed on it along fvwm. Start up a machine running SuSE tumbleweed. Their build is fvwm 2.6.9. Copy over my ./.fvwm/config file. Everything works out of the box execpt for Button2 in fvwm. I had a somewhat related prob

Re: FVWM: Resizing

2023-05-08 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 09:08, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Hi fvwm folks, > > what is the best method to react to resizing displays? Be it on beamer > or in a virtualbox. > > Usually, fvwm does not apply to such an event and need to be restarted. > But this is suboptimal and I would like to find a better

Re: FVWM: EdgeScroll breaks after restart

2023-01-18 Thread Parragh, Szabolcs
Yes if worked! Thanks! Could it be set up as a default value perhaps, so it doesn't break the scroll? Cheers, Szabolcs 2023. 01. 17. 17:56 keltezéssel, Thomas Adam írta: On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 10:05, Parragh, Szabolcs wrote: Hi, I have a weird issue, where EdgeScroll breaks after I restart f

Re: FVWM: EdgeScroll breaks after restart

2023-01-17 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 10:05, Parragh, Szabolcs wrote: > > Hi, > I have a weird issue, where EdgeScroll breaks after I restart fwvm. The > cursor even doesn't (as it does when it works) change as I move it to > edge and I cannot go over to the next desktop with the mouse. > > I was able to replica

Re: FVWM: Desktop scaling

2022-12-06 Thread Parragh Szabolcs
I used this (and set larger fonts for urxvt, emacs etc.) https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HiDPI Currently I use my config on two machines, I solved this by templating some fonts/geometry in my fvwmrc, put the different settings in two yaml files and run the substitution from .xinitrc. 2022

Re: FVWM: Desktop scaling

2022-12-05 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 9:56 AM Stephen Dennison wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 3:33 PM Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > > > I have a new laptop with 3840x2400 graphic. Unfortunately, that is too > > much to be visible so I use it with only 1920x1200. Unfortunately, the > > controls are still very small

Re: FVWM: Desktop scaling

2022-12-05 Thread Stephen Dennison
On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 3:33 PM Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > Hi, Greetings. > > I have a new laptop with 3840x2400 graphic. Unfortunately, that is too > much to be visible so I use it with only 1920x1200. Unfortunately, the > controls are still very small. I have a similar issue with one of my systems

Re: FVWM: Intellij focus issue

2022-11-13 Thread Parragh, Szabolcs
Thanks for your reply! I checked again, and there was a 2nd Style statement to Click2Focus for "jetbrains*" in my config which I didn't notice. Removing it fixed it! 2022. 11. 12. 18:01 keltezéssel, David Fries írta: Are you talking about your mouse pointer disappearing or the keyboard cursor

Re: FVWM: Intellij focus issue

2022-11-12 Thread David Fries
Are you talking about your mouse pointer disappearing or the keyboard cursor? Android studio uses Intellij, it's Java, so it's write once, run no where natively and multiple focus problem. For me doing the operation you mention, I still have the keyboard cursor. The keyboard cursor will vanish i

Re: FVWM: Intellij focus issue

2022-11-07 Thread Parragh Szabolcs
Anyone? I'd really love to fix this... I forgot to mention I also tried: Style "*jetbrains*" Lenience But id didn't help. Thx, Szabolcs 2022. 10. 30. 20:10 keltezéssel, Parragh, Szabolcs írta: Hi Everyone, I'm having an annoying issue. I'm using FVWM3 (used FVWM2 up to a week ago and exper

Re: FVWM: mwmborder style in 1.0.6

2022-11-04 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 at 21:39, elliot s wrote: > What's the planned way of having minimal but existing relief in buttons? No. It was not. I'll push a fix for this momentarily. -- Thomas

Re: FVWM: fvwm3 1.0.5 FvwmButtons issue ?

2022-10-20 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:26 PM John McCue wrote: > > Hi, > > I noticed an issue with fvwm3 1.0.5 vs 1.0.4. > > Please let me know if you need more information. > Could you check the known issues at github, and adding this issue there will get more attention. https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/iss

Re: FVWM: Thanks for FVWM

2022-09-26 Thread Bob Crochelt
Dennis, Well said. I came to linux in 1997 when I couldn't make Windows stable on my home computer. Didn't even know what a WM was. Started with FVWM back then and have used it since. My questions have always been kindly considered. Great software package. Bob Crochelt On Fri, Sep 16, 2022

Re: FVWM: controlling thunderbird

2022-09-18 Thread Paul Fox
klaus wrote: > Hello, > > I have troubles with thunderbird (class thunderbird-default) always > appearing in the middle of the screen, even if my placement policy would > put it on the right side. > > I tried now any combination of !UseUSPosition, !UsePPosition, > FixedPPosition but witho

Re: FVWM: controlling thunderbird

2022-09-18 Thread Thomas Adam
Hi, On Sun, 18 Sept 2022 at 10:46, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > Hello, > > I have troubles with thunderbird (class thunderbird-default) always > appearing in the middle of the screen, even if my placement policy would > put it on the right side. Style thunderbird StartsOnScreen Works fine for m

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