Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

I remember listening to "Diamond Age" as a book on tape while driving up the California 1, it was 10 or 12 tapes and the woman who read it did an amazing job. What a wonderful book. There have been a few books in my life that I feel have found me like the illustrated primer found Nell, a book that

[FRIAM] In the coldness of space...

In the coldest reaches of space, with what probability can I expect there to be quantum Turing machines? A number of years ago, I ran across a lecture by John Conway where he discusses the ubiquity of computers, his thought experiment posits a large warehouse, full of transistors and other electron

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

EricS, Thank you for the kind and thoughtful response. Your 'three levels' project is interesting to me and reminds me (even if only tangentially) of an analysis I worked on regarding food webs, n-species Lotka-Volterra, and ABMs. I wanted to clarify for myself what each level of analysis offered

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Is it also fair to say that human progress came at a huge cost to ourselves? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http:/

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Agreed! One can have meaningless sex, but who wants to? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

I look forward to my next trip to Britain. It will be nice to sit back, relax, and let my sinister hand drive. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.l

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

You're right ;) That is also one of my favorite facts about Darwin. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.

[FRIAM] Germans head to Russia on the COVID package...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUKgJQfoZ14&ab_channel=DWNews While Sputnik V has yet to be approved in the EU, it is surprising how effective the vaccine has proven to be. Meanwhile, Mexico develops a nasal vaccine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IS3QvLVues&ab_channel=DWNews and ultimately, ev

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Yeah, I think it is safe to say that "huge costs" are a sign of progress in the same sense that smoke is a sign of fire. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GM

Re: [FRIAM] Morphogenisis

""" Is carrying out an algorithm more like “computation” or is “building a limb”? Is a salamander’s limb “computed”? If so, who computes it, or is that a violation of the language of computation. """ From the summary of Chemero's "Radical Embodied Cognitive Science": """ Radical embodied cogniti

Re: [FRIAM] Morphogenisis

Wonderful read, thanks for that. I like the question, "Why do trees keep happening?" It is almost as if *regions* of our environment keep *learning* to become trees. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Morphogenisis

Tell me more, Nick. I am unsure what it is I am supposed to respond to. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redf

Re: [FRIAM] Morphogenisis

Please understand the context for my writing here: while waiting with bated breath for EricS's response to my prodding[0], I am working to better understand the larger discussion and to read EricS's paper[1]. Lately, I am working to extend grace to others in their attempts to describe the world. F

Re: [FRIAM] Morphogenisis

:) I very much understand, as slow as you wish. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

I have failed to follow this discussion very closely. That said, to what extent could frameworks like those that underlie spring rank or gauge-theoretic price as curvature give reasonable characterizations of recip

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Each of the three citations was meant to evoke, distinct though related, approaches to assigning quantities to qualities of networks. The Levine paper[1] focuses on a technique for flattening a food web onto a chain (trophic level). What I find novel is that the technique appears robust to loops (c

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 167, Issue 58

Wrt Nick's response, I personally think anthropomorphism is fine. Until there is a clear (perhaps formal) system we are working inside, anthropomorphism is an efficient way to 'throw mud' on developing metaphor. That aside, I agree with Nick that if we had something like consensus on what phenomena

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 177, Issue 4

We could always use Git. On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > friam@redfish.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > or, via email, send a message wit

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 180, Issue 3

wow. perhaps this is why we can't have nice things. On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > friam@redfish.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > or, via

[FRIAM] Subject: Re: Friam Digest, Vol 180, Issue 3

I was being a little bit cheeky in my response to Microsoft's acquisition of Github, though I am disappointed. Two salient and moderate responses seem to be that: 1) One could always migrate to another cloud service, gitlab perhaps? Another option could be to take the 30 seconds it takes to setup

[FRIAM] Hywel

Thank you for passing this sad news on to friam. I will miss Hywel very much and often enjoyed his contributions to our gauge field theory book group over the last year. His sense of humor often brought a chuckle and smile to my face. Hywel's unique perspective on matters of physics and its tenuous

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 184, Issue 19

ra Author(s): > Shreeram S. Abhyankar Source: The American Mathematical Monthly, Vol. 83, > No. 6 (Jun. - Jul ... > > > <https://www.ime.usp.br/~pleite/pub/artigos/abhyankar/abhyankar.pdf>If > you read that you can tell if you like Ahbyankar's style. He wrote a more

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 185, Issue 14

The Max Headroom -like stutter strikes me as intentional, a socially referenceable way to keep the AI out of the uncanny valley. I suspect this hobbling is important for helping a television viewing community to feel comfortable and to accept such

Re: [FRIAM] two books (perhaps a bit more)

Dave, It is good to hear your voice. Sarah is presently finishing a pair of chemistry classes at UNM. In classic St. John's style, she is constantly bringing me the kind of thoughtful questions which send me diving into books on quantum mechanics and wishing my group theory were stronger. Most rec

Re: [FRIAM] two books (perhaps a bit more)

Roger, Thanks for the recommendation. Sarah had bought a copy of Pauling's 'Introduction to Quantum Mechanics' and it had sat at my periphery until the other night when I read your post. In one of those few moments of invincible lucidity, I managed to read the first 120 pages, deeply satisfying ma

Re: [FRIAM] two books

`As one who learned quantum mechanics as a chemist, I have to say that the lack of reality that bothers the physicists never really bothers me. I don't really care how an electron spreads itself in space to create a wave function. I get electron densities from the wave function magnitudes, which

Re: [FRIAM] Big data stats in Python

Though only tangentially related, a coworker of mine directed my attention to a new data set google engine: Dataset Search . Jonathan Zingale FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Friday

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 188, Issue 9

Steve, Thanks for this. I wanted to go last night but Go club was calling. Jonathan Zingale On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:00 AM wrote: > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > friam@redfish.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://redfish.com/ma

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 189, Issue 40

Adjacent possibles are neighborhoods in a comonad. On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 11:05 AM wrote: > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > friam@redfish.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > or, via

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 190, Issue 1

ea. These are pieces of hardware that transform sound into > electrical signals meaningful to the brain. > > > > Have you seen the videos of people who have been deaf since birth who get > such a device. They inevitably sob when they hear sound for the first time. > >

[FRIAM] Michael Levin: "Emergent Selves and Unconventional Intelligences"

Last night's Ulam lecturer mentioned this guy and I was excited to see Levin lecturing at the Topos institute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CMh-9bAL4s&ab_channel=ToposInstitute -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a

Re: [FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)

I will miss the conversations I had with him at tea. What a fantastic thinker. -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe ht

Re: [FRIAM] AI art

Chess tends to have a pretty specific culture relative to other similar games. Often whenever I find chess happening in public spaces I will stop to watch a game and occasionally a player will ask if I play. I don't play chess, but I know enough of the rules that I enjoy speculating as to what I mi

Re: [FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

Maybe I am conscious. I cannot help but notice a perverse smile forming over my face when I consider that a program is not conscious because it does what I tell it to do and that a cat is not because it refuses to play my game. I suspect that Michael Jordan was not when he was fully in the world, d

[FRIAM] Joscha Bach claims Microsoft sentient but not conscious

An interesting collection of ideas regarding consciousness. For instance, not meta cognition but immediate perception. A bubble of nowness, etc... I am not certain if the lecture is interesting, but it seemed relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLbHm-bJQE&t=908s -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -

Re: [FRIAM] New Mexican's Sunday's story on education proficiency

Numbers are real things. The more one explores them, the more experiences one has of them, the more confidently one comes to rely on them. -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays

[FRIAM] Lebesgue

I love imagining this brilliant moment in late stage advanced capitalism when there were at most four television stations and somehow some poor kid found this broadcast, thought it was Dr. Who, and proceeded to hide behind the couch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg83UhV9A58&list=PLISEtDmihMo2i5

[FRIAM] Clocks

Reflecting on recent conversations (both here and abroad), Michael Levin's developments of polycomputing, and in preparation for my new role as career coach to a GPT model, I have come to wonder: How might one productively set out to architect an unsupervised learning machine capable of discoverin

Re: [FRIAM] Clocks

Marcus, Not bad first steps. It knows how to describe the construction of a clock (an atomic beam, recognition of electron states, etc...), now for it to complete the task. What additional steps would I need to prompt, write, describe, etc... for it to find examples not already in the convex hull

[FRIAM] On telos- was: When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

I appreciate Timothy's warning for why historians should be sensitive to the use of telic political exposition. That is, he shows why defining telos in terms of finality or pre-determination is both useful and important. In the lecture, Timothy describes a well-known tyrant's *love letter* to a nat

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

Over the last week, I have had a chance to engage a few groups of friends in discussions about telos. In each discussion, I take it upon myself to puzzle out each participant's sense of the word and the nature of the problems that demand such definitions. I remember my confusion the first time I h

Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list...

Ha. I can't help but render explicit the dovetail with "When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?". After all, they are "*The Fateful* Adventures of the Good Soldier Švejk During the World War". According to Wikipedia on the matter, """ Hašek originally intended Švejk to co

Re: [FRIAM] Grokking Mechanistic Interpretability

Digging a bit more into the arxiv paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2301.05217 I am a bit surprised that the network bothers to 'discover' discrete fourier transforms rather than discovering convolutions in the home domain. It is also surprising that the 'phase transition' to generalization is relativ

Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list...

"I feel I should scream on Eric’s behalf." Yeah, someone should. I unfortunately cannot. I spent a bit of time in my early twenties hitchhiking throughout North America, which often led to traveling between American festival culture loci. While I feel my orientation/attitude traveling was a bit m

Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list...

Eric, Apologies right off, the following analysis is for myself and probably should be kept to myself. On the one hand, I am struggling to learn a particular formalism. On the other hand, I am struggling to get better at understanding what it is that people I admire appear to be doing. The formali

Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list...

Eric, Thanks for the thoughtful response. I have always felt like a physics tourist, even in my earlier days as a fly-on-the-wall in Dan Freed's TQFT seminars in the RLM building. I couldn't agree more about Purcell, and I still have my mom's copy from when I was a kid. Rasmus has loaned me Jackso

Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list...

"Degenerate constructs like a 1 group symmetry feel, to me, like metaphysical commitments..." Glen, In an attempt to understand Eric's response to me, I got to reading this group-theory dense paper reasoning with kernels and strata about spontaneous symmetry breaking[1]. It got me understanding y

Re: [FRIAM] Combine Euler-Beta function and Feynman diagrams to find a new series reperesentation for π.

On the one hand, it kinda doesn't surprise me because of the role that mathematical objects like the Riemann zeta function play in calculating things like the mass of the electron in string theory models. OTOH, wow, that is awesome and amazing! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_function_regulariz

[FRIAM] Discoveries and Indistinguishables

Ok, seriously, has anyone heard of this guy? In the process of continuing my work on situating theories of computation within the context of syntactic categories, I found myself down a rabbit hole leading to this thinker. A F Parker-Rhodes' book[0] "The Theory of Indistinguishables" has at the very

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 164, Issue 29

yeah you guys are all right, fluorescent lights forever. They feel totally great and gee whiz, we can even think under them. best idea of the 20th century. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:20 PM, wrote: > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > friam@redfish.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

​Thank you, those responsible for the discussion regarding simulation​ and the real. Here is a competition currently sponsored by MIT where competitors write AI to perform automated war: BattleCode <https://www.battlecode.org/>. Jon Z

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 164, Issue 38

​Thank you, those responsible for the discussion regarding simulation​ and the real. Here is a competition currently sponsored by MIT where competitors write AI to perform automated war: BattleCode . On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Friam mailing list

Re: [FRIAM] Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

Glen, Thank you for the cool image and for diving into the code. To answer your question, I am using Euler's method to compute the trajectories of the Lorenz equations. `Eball` denotes the step size of the integration. In theory, making the Eball param smaller ought give better numerical solutions

Re: [FRIAM] nice quote

Since we are picking on aphorisms, I wish to add criticism to "all models are wrong, some are useful". To a great extent, the qualities of the thing being modelled matters. For instance, natural numbers do have crisp, compact properties and can be modelled by sets. To claim that models are never c

Re: [FRIAM] pseudo-adiabatic process

I saw this and liked how it echoes with my post. Science is hard. On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 1:00 PM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > After bullying GeorgeIV for a couple hours, I got this superb answer out > of him. > > *Summary:* > > In *pseudo-adiabatic calculations*, we disregard: > >- *Condens

Re: [FRIAM] Art test

"I read somewhere (I can't remember where exactly but I believe on Mastodon) that LLMs are like money laundering for art." Yeah, I feel like LLMs challenge the idea that *separation of concerns* can even be a thing. -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied C

[FRIAM] In praise of neural nets

biological or otherwise... Pneuma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssULNGSZIA Echoes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGLo8tl5sxs .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fri

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

"Apparently, Tesla only managed to show profitability last quarter due to unrealized earnings on Bitcoin. Stock is way overvalued." Technically, I would put a short-term (let's say 3 year) fair value around $210 or so, but would likely wait to pay $150-$160. Fundamentally, I would like to see the

[FRIAM] Critical Exponents in 3.99 Dimensions

Any ideas on getting this non-pay walled? https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.28.240 .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. J

Re: [FRIAM] Critical Exponents in 3.99 Dimensions

Stephen, I am developing an approach to portfolio construction. Rasmus, Thanks for the paper. .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe

[FRIAM] Pelosi needs a cryptocoin

https://www.quiverquant.com/congresstrading/politician/Nancy%20Pelosi-P000197 I love that she is wrecking the SPY. Why bother to distinguish between crooks? .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Co

[FRIAM] Im not voting Democrat, Im voting for AOC 2028

On virtual FRIAM today I was taking bets as to when the first F-bomb might be dropped in a presidential speech. Though I have never voted duopoly in an election, I will if it is AOC in 2028. Pass it on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeheoxWzf2o .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. .

[FRIAM] Feliz Navidad

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Re: [FRIAM] Wow!

She gets my endorsement. .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscrib

Re: [FRIAM] free will

"What is special, if anything, about organisms that have nervous systems built on organic chemistry that could enable something else?" For the most part, I agree with you. Why shouldn't there be silicon architectures that get arbitrarily close to the agential quality exhibited by life. On the oth

Re: [FRIAM] Entropy RE-redux

I should not put effort in, but is this page useful? Is there something here that can help Nick to make a well-formed question? What about in the entirety of this book that many here I am sure have read a part. https://jontalle.web.engr.illinois.edu/Public/BOOKS/Kittel-ThermalPhysics.80.pdf#page=2

[FRIAM] neural operators seem promising

Even if just for the freedom of scale, learning infinite dimensional function spaces, etc... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caZyFlSSKtI https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.10973 .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRI

Re: [FRIAM] individual vs group selection

IMO, genes are no more *the* unit of selection than anyone's privileged flavor of set theory is *the* foundations for mathematics. I assume people actually doing the work in the field set units to the scale they are working. I have really enjoyed thinking about Eric'S at "the level of the citric ac

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