Re: [FRIAM] Pelosi needs a cryptocoin

2025-01-23 Thread Santafe
Maybe this turns out to be kind of a nice ethics question. You might make it part of the governance. Burr could do his sales, then _immediately_ contact a broadcast network and make a statement, saying “I just dumped a bunch of stock because I know how bad the COVID epidemic is going to be.

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread glen
Efficient? No, I don't think so, barring some perverse conception of efficiency. The chat versions are way too verbose and don't write dense text. In thinking of who, here, would be difficult to simulate, I think Eric's text is too densely filled with hooks to various domains. And I don't think

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
Here's one I happen to have in my browser from Claude Sonnet 3.5 in Concise mode. I asked: Are there any examples of complex [lithium battery] wearing? How does one validate models that have no precedent? Let me think through this carefully: Complex Wearing Examples: Battery Systems

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
A common thing to do when coding with an LLM is to paste in a compile diagnostic or an output without any English describing it. I wonder what it would do if one switched to a standardized first or higher order logic syntax instead of natural language for the whole dialog. I mean, it's all ju

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread Barry MacKichan
So we need an LLM to determine if the Turing test has been passed? I detect recursion, or as it is commonly called, a rabbit hole. - Barry On 22 Jan 2025, at 20:27, Marcus Daniels wrote: I was addressing the mistaken claim that using a LLM create content is easy to detect. It would require s

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread steve smith
marcus - I suspect (strongly) that you are much more competent at steering Claude to help you write/debug code than I will ever be.   That said, however, I find that it (GPT in my case) meets me well at my own level of (in)competence.   It susses out about 60% of my prompt's intentions well,

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread glen
Yeah. It seems like we're really starting to get clarity on the various modes or usage patterns. Maybe it's the swiss army knife or kitchen sink thing that bothers me most. Even in your example, I think Claude was too verbose. I mean, you did NOT ask for a list of examples of complex wear. You

[FRIAM] turtles all the way up

2025-01-23 Thread Roger Critchlow
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2025/02/13/turtles-all-the-way-up-determined-robert-sapolsky/ -- rec -- .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Jo

[FRIAM] Rocky Mountain Tech Corridor - Q/B/N/AI-Woo and an Archipelago of virtuous relations?

2025-01-23 Thread steve smith
Yay NM (and CO/WY)? https://www.elevatequantum.org/elevate-quantum-funding-faq/ I'm always puzzled by these kinds of funding patterns, though I do understand (vaguely) the synergistic possibilities of regional/local concentrations.   It feels almost entirely political...  senators and governo

Re: [FRIAM] metaphor

2025-01-23 Thread glen
Who is this "so many people"? It's like Trump's go-to phrase "many people have said". If I'm lucky enough to be in this group, then I can clarify. I don't think AI is a way for someone to get away with something. Or, at least, that's not my criticism of the way it seems like you're using GPT. T

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
The style of ChatGPT or Claude or others are just default engineered styles that provide efficient responses. Noticing it is identifiable is like noticing that a document was written using stock LaTeX. Incidentally, I’ve noticed Claude is prone to going down rabbit holes when debugging c

[FRIAM] Im not voting Democrat, Im voting for AOC 2028

2025-01-23 Thread Jon Zingale
On virtual FRIAM today I was taking bets as to when the first F-bomb might be dropped in a presidential speech. Though I have never voted duopoly in an election, I will if it is AOC in 2028. Pass it on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeheoxWzf2o .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. .

Re: [FRIAM] St John's

2025-01-23 Thread John Dobson
They are having board game night on Saturday evening. That suggests they are open for business this week. See you here.. John On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 5:03 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Does anyone know whether the coffee shop at St John's is open? It was > supposed to be closed from 12/20 until

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread steve smith
As a purveyor (and even consumer) of verbosity, *I* even find GPT too forthcoming, too volunteering sometimes.  It is hard for me to skim a human's response to me as thinly as I sometimes skim GPT's responses.   And I often feel a little dirty/disrespectful after ignoring a verbose answer from

[FRIAM] St John's

2025-01-23 Thread Frank Wimberly
Does anyone know whether the coffee shop at St John's is open? It was supposed to be closed from 12/20 until 1/20. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .-

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread glen
Yeah. I made a new friend at our salon who is chatty in the way I think you mean. She was shy at first, perhaps thinking I was a normal man. But now she seems quite free to jump around in the conversation. Push and pop things off the stack, follow and abandon tangents, etc. She's even adopted s

Re: [FRIAM] May you live in interesting times

2025-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
I often preface a coding task with remarks like "Please review this set of program files and take note of their module/filename boundaries. Review the problem specification. Are there any areas that could be clarified to avoid implementation ambiguity?"This makes it clear I don't want to s