Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking

2025-01-15 Thread Jochen Fromm
Who says I am optimistic? Your remark about data centers for LLMs, Bitcoins and other stuff like TikTok videos which increase global warming is accurate.I believe we are heading towards a collapse (!) of civilization (!!) in 10 or 20 years, not only because of climate change, but because our res

Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking

2025-01-15 Thread glen
Dave corrected it in a subsequent post: On 1/14/25 09:15, Prof David West wrote: excuse me, Pieter's optimisim, not Hochen's On 1/15/25 14:39, Jochen Fromm wrote: Who says I am optimistic? Your remark about data centers for LLMs, Bitcoins and other stuff like TikTok videos which increase gl

Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking

2025-01-15 Thread Russell Standish
In my book Theory of Nothing, I predict a population collapse this century (with better than even odds). This was with nothing more than anthropic reasoning. A major population decline is baked in through the demographic transition anyway. The question is can our civilisation survive this? I'm op

Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking

2025-01-15 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
I'm all for speculation about what the future holds; it's something I engage in frequently. Yet, the current AI revolution, with its profound implications for societal structures, underscores the reality that society functions as a complex adaptive system. This recognition makes it evident that any

Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking

2025-01-15 Thread glen
Yeah. Ordinarily, I would agree. But Neal did his time, contributed his fair share to the training data. Now we have LLMs that can generate the ideas some of us might find value in. I grant that there are prolly *great* writers that Claude or whatever can't replace. But most people's writing su

Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking

2025-01-15 Thread Marcus Daniels
If one sets the temperature of a LLM to zero, it will be deterministic. Conversations LLMs have with other LLMs running at zero temperature will be deterministic subject to variations in congestion in their network connectivity. Make the temperature higher, but use a controlled and coordinated

Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking

2025-01-15 Thread Jochen Fromm
I've been thinking about it during breakfast this morning. Fits to the title of the thread. I would say at the moment LLMs do not have free will. But we could imagine AI agents that have a free will. Let us say we build an AI agent that has two directives: the first is to be a helpful assistant

Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking

2025-01-15 Thread steve smith
"Life is that which wills amongst that which wills to live" ? Citizenship or not, at least "life", and i believe (unfounded or at least unattributable)  that the above applies more acutely when "amongst near peers".   Baleen whales which live on krill, for example exhibit *their* strongest *li