Yeah. Ordinarily, I would agree. But Neal did his time, contributed his fair share to the training data. Now we have LLMs that can generate the ideas some of us might find value in. I grant that there are prolly *great* writers that Claude or whatever can't replace. But most people's writing sucks and will always suck. So let's let the machines do what they're good at and we can spend our time on other things.
The only real problem is the "water cooler". While ChatGPT can generate a tome for you to read, you won't be able to have a pint with your friends and talk about whatever ideas or plot might exist in that one-off tome. So what we need in addition to the machine writers is a machine writing leader board ... akin to the best seller list(s). Whether the writing is judged by humans or other machines becomes a bit of an issue. There's value in bottle-necking evaluation with a bunch of slow reading humans. So maybe 2 leader boards, one where humans evaluate machine writing and one where other machines evaluate machine writing. I've always thought reading was a more important skill than writing, anyway, especially when what you're writing or reading is code. But, being a terrible coder, I would say that wouldn't I? On 1/14/25 09:13, Prof David West wrote:
I take a more charitable view to writing, especially fiction, and find value in the ideas that can be sparked by a good SciFi novel like Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age. A world where stuff is essentially 'free' because of nano-tech, but social stratification persists and new interesting problems arise. Not an argument against Jochen's technological optimism, but a caution that the issues are more complicated than many assume.
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