Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
It also includes folding clothes: https://www.physicalintelligence.company/blog/pi0 From: Friam on behalf of Roger Critchlow Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 8:25 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re:

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Roger Critchlow
Hans Moravec kicks off a forum, https://www.bostonreview.net/forum/the-ai-we-deserve/, about why the instrumentalist computer science and AI we inherited from DARPA grants isn't the only possible version or the only version we need. Life is not entirely composed of self aiming gun turrets and supp

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Roger Critchlow
Now I really feel complicit. -- rec -- On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:34 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: > It also includes folding clothes: > > https://www.physicalintelligence.company/blog/pi0 > > > > *From: *Friam on behalf of Roger Critchlow < > r...@elf.org> > *Date: *Thursday, December 12, 2024 at

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nah.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.G.Y._(What_a_Beautiful_World) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueivjr3f8xg From: Friam on behalf of Roger Critchlow Date: Thursday, December 12

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread glen
Interesting. What was your prompt? It's important to remember that Claude and GPT are prone to bullsh¡t. When asked to compare apples to oranges, they will happily and confidently make the comparison even if it's a category error. Leitgeb's footnote might be of use: "This motivation for Ramsif

[FRIAM] libertarian paradise

2024-12-12 Thread glen
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/12/how-cryptocurrency-turns-to-cash-in-russian-banks/ “We see threat actors engaged in ransomware, narcotics, darknet markets, fraud, cybercrime, sanctioned entities and jurisdictions, and hacktivism making deposits to Cryptomus for purchases but also laundering

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Prof David West
Thank you Roger. Fascinating read. Moravec has evolved considerably from his *Mind Children *(1990) days when he predicted we would all be "uploaded" to robot bodies by now. The University where I started my teaching career, St. Thomas in St. Paul MN, recently announced a new center https://www

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
Seems there are good reasons to replace humans. 1) Humans can’t easily travel to new planets due to radiation and hostile environments. 2) Our appetite for energy is vast and our decadence unbounded. A rising standard of living for all humans will accelerate this due to increased demands for f

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Roger Critchlow
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 11:25 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Seems there are good reasons to replace humans. > > 1) Humans can’t easily travel to new planets due to radiation and hostile > environments. > 2) Our appetite for energy is vast and our decadence unbounded. A rising > standard of living f

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Stephen Guerin
On that train, all graphite and glitter Undersea by rail 90 minutes from New York to Paris (More leisure for artists everywhere) Just a machine to make big decisions Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision We'll be clean when their work is done We'll be eternally free, yes, and eternally y

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
Supposing that AGI were to occur, I would expect that they/it would make sure humans helped perform the experiments and engineering to create a self-sustaining context. After all, in the thought experiment, it is a superintelligence. Feed them the right info on their X feed to get them riled u

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread glen
I still feel like there's an assumption of decoupling lying in wait. Humans are biologically enmeshed in the biosphere. Traveling to Mars requires us to "simulate" the biosphere ... like a kind of telemetry injection, artificially provide O2 like Gaia does, recycle waste back into "fresh" produ

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
LLMs are universal interpolators. Pretty much the same thing as the interconnected breadth of knowledge, it seems to me. From: Friam on behalf of Prof David West Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 11:43 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Prof David West
1) Humans can’t easily travel to new planets due to radiation and hostile environments. *["Conan The Bacterium" might make this more possible.]* 2) Our appetite for energy is vast* [Microsoft is recommissioning Three Mile Island to feed an AI server farm, both Google and Amazon are exploring "p

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Prof David West
6) Human life span is too limited to consume all available media.* [Twisting glen's ideas about 'context' - no need to consume, all media is already part of the mind-context whole. See also, "enlightenment and omniscience."]* On Thu, Dec 12, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > > > On T

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
I at least want my flying cars. Damn it. https://www.jobyaviation.com/ From: Friam on behalf of Stephen Guerin Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 11:09 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic

Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy

2024-12-12 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
This is such an intriguing discussion, but regrettably, I don’t have the time to engage fully. I do, however, want to quickly address Glen's question to me from way back at the start of this thread about my prompt on Ramsey semantics and fuzzy logic. My prompt to ChatGPT was: "Please compare in one