Re: [FRIAM] New Mexican's Sunday's story on education proficiency

2024-08-08 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
Assuming this question reflects the type of mathematics questions posed to fourth graders, it raises a pertinent query: what is the pedagogical value of such mathematical questions for 9- or 10-year-old students? Living in a world where it is a rarity for a cashier to perform basic mental arithmet

Re: [FRIAM] New Mexican's Sunday's story on education proficiency

2024-08-08 Thread Edward Angel
The following is hard to believe but true. Last weekend, I was in line at Walgreens. The older woman in front of me gave the cashier a $20 bill for a $13.54 purchase. The young cashier was completely unable to figure out the correct change. After a couple of failed tries, the older woman tried

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-08 Thread glen
No. I interact with the bullshit generators enough at work. I don't feel the need to do so in my personal life, as well. But I appreciate the invitation. On 8/7/24 19:25, Nicholas Thompson wrote: H! I wonder how Glenn would react to our requesting him to play this game. I hate it because i

Re: [FRIAM] New Mexican's Sunday's story on education proficiency

2024-08-08 Thread glen
Humans are fast learners. We learn what our environments demand we learn, within some variation, of course. In my part time job slinging beer, we don't expect employees to be able to subtract numbers like 13.54 from 20. The Point of Sale (PoS, funnily also an initialism for another common phras

Re: [FRIAM] New Mexican's Sunday's story on education proficiency

2024-08-08 Thread Frank Wimberly
By the way, my daughter's title in the Secretary of Public Education Office is Financial Technician. I can multiply two 2 digit numbers mentally pretty fast. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, 7:11 AM Edward Angel

[FRIAM] Rambling Tangent on Identity and SocioPolitics - was: differential diagnosis of psychopathic vs spiritual experiences

2024-08-08 Thread steve smith
On 8/6/24 12:09 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: Re self-identification.  We adopted our daughter in Mexico and moved from Pittsburgh to Santa Fe about a year later. When she came home after her first day of kindergarten at E. J. Martinez I asked her if there were other Hispanic kids in her class.  S

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-08 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, 7:44 AM glen wrote: > No. I interact with the bullshit generators enough at work. I don't feel > the need to do so in my personal life, as well. But I appreciate the > invitation. > Glen, yes "bullshit generators" can be slightly annoying at times ;-p Friam is a space to i

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-08 Thread Stephen Guerin
Glen, are you avail to join vFriam today near the end at 1130a MDT / 1030 your time? https://bit.ly/virtualfriam Interactive voice channel preferred. On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, 10:09 AM glen wrote: > Maybe. I'm not convinced. Profundity is THE breeding ground for bullshit. > And "wisdom" is not far

Re: [FRIAM] differential diagnosis of psychopathic vs spiritual experiences

2024-08-08 Thread steve smith
On 8/7/24 9:43 AM, glen wrote: Why? Why would you burn that energy to perform such a task? because as with all technology for all of time, "because we can" I agree/realize that in our rush to embrace "the next cool thing" it is easy to get carried away... like with the

Re: [FRIAM] lunch at Casa Bonita today at 1230p.

2024-08-08 Thread steve smith
Will there be (more) cliff diving?   Metaphorically of course. We'll be at lunch today at Casa Bonita. -S -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/v

Re: [FRIAM] New Mexican's Sunday's story on education proficiency

2024-08-08 Thread steve smith
By the way, my daughter's title in the Secretary of Public Education Office is Financial Technician.  I can multiply two 2 digit numbers mentally pretty fast. Frank I so know the massive slowdown when I go from 2-3 digits (even 2x3) multiplication...   it goes from something mostly intuitive

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-08 Thread steve smith
Maybe. I'm not convinced. Profundity is THE breeding ground for bullshit. I'm more inclined (in the context of my own profundity or perhaps more aptly prolificness or prolixity) to suggest that it is more of a mask (and therefore enabler?) of bullshit than a breeding ground. Could be a fine h

Re: [FRIAM] differential diagnosis of psychopathic vs spiritual experiences

2024-08-08 Thread steve smith
I tend to (mildly?) dismiss the "kids these days" self-identification as a variant on what I remember back when I was one... and my experience aligns somewhat with your own the the nuance that there was some holonomic overlap..  Our Jocks sometimes were also Honor's students and sometimes even

[FRIAM] The Limbic System of the Superorganism and Adrenal Fatigue

2024-08-08 Thread steve smith
We have spoken of Limbic hijack at the personal level, but haven't broached an analogy of this with the US, Western World, and Global "superorganism" which I feel (being a metaphorist) is an apt one. While I have not identified precisely as liberal or progressive in my life, I have it seems be