Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Prof David West
Nick, Nothing you say below or said in the original post is false. All are true. Trump could not have written what you wrote, he lacks the literacy as well as the ability to avoid "hyperisms" in his speech. However ... each of your points about the Chinese in both posts have been stated by Tru

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Ha! You have no idea. One of my high school classmates, a hard right winger last I checked, actually writes for Epoch: https://www.theepochtimes.com/author-alan-wakim All good jokes carry a kernel of truth, I guess. On 11/11/21 7:38 PM, Prof David West wrote: > Nick, get out your dagger repelle

Re: [FRIAM] "chilling effect"

2021-11-12 Thread Jon Zingale
""" How is it epi? In both the SLAPP case and the SB8 case, it's a directly targeted effect. """ I can see that I was being too clumsy. In the SLAPP case and the SB8 case chilling is pretty straightforward, but in the case I linked[☃] (which jumps to a highlighted section "Chilling effects on Wiki

Re: [FRIAM] "chilling effect"

2021-11-12 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
I agree it's a useful distinction. Neither are epiphenomena in the "unintentional" sense. In the Snowden case, it's difficult for me to imagine Snowden, as a whistleblower who felt he had to escape from one "oppressive" regime to take harbor in another oppressive regime, *not* having thought ex

[FRIAM] Merle is back home from presenting at COP26

2021-11-12 Thread Merle Lefkoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FqXTCvDLeo -- Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. Center for Emergent Diplomacy emergentdiplomacy.org Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 b

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread thompnickson2
Well trolled! It’s time for me to turn of the news for a while. I am even closer to hysteria than usual. I want to say it shouldn’t MATTER who said it; it should only matter whether it’s true or not. It’s the “true, shmoo

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Steve Smith
As an erstwhile tennis player, I have to say "spin matters"... when the ball comes over the net and I set my feet and body to return it, swing my racket with optimal trajectory to intercept it, all that would seem to matter is "Is my perception of the trajectory of the ball true, and will my ra

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Stephen Guerin
Nick, > Is Hong Kong not being digested as we speak? Is pressure not increasing on the Taiwanese? An orthogonal perspective is healing and unification post-occupation and aggression by foreign powers. ie: - North/South Vietnam - Manchuria/China - East/West Germany - North/South Kore

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Jon Zingale
"这就是你想让我说的吗? 我们现在可以在中国推出我们的软件吗?" 是的,你做得很好。尝一口香港。 .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
這在 IRC 中會容易得多。 On 11/12/21 11:27 AM, Jon Zingale wrote: > "这就是你想让我说的吗? 我们现在可以在中国推出我们的软件吗?" > > 是的,你做得很好。尝一口香港。 -- "Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie." ☤>$ uǝlƃ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group l

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Edward Angel
We were in Taiwan during their first truly democratic election. The U.S. media was filled with dire predictions of imminent war. The reality was that no one in Taiwan was worried about an attack. China and Taiwan, in spite of the rhetoric, were deeply coupled economically and war would be disast

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
Interesting, Ed. I remember the arrest you mention. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Nov 12, 2021, 12:56 PM Edward Angel wrote: > We were in Taiwan during their first truly democratic election. The U.S. > media was filled with dir

Re: [FRIAM] Is Chemero TRULY a pragmatist.

2021-11-12 Thread thompnickson2
Dear colleagues, Metaphysics and Pragmatism Today's discussion clarified many things for me, including why Peirce and James's group was called The Metaphysical Club. Pragmatism IS a metaphysics, but one that collapses metaphysics onto epistemology. The meaning of a term is the effect that

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

2021-11-12 Thread Gillian Densmore
Nick. Know that you not alone on robodialers. A youtuber from canada called [different from Linus the Linux guy maker]. This linus runs a company called LKMG it basically does reviewes and industry side back end work.. He has a 20 minut long rant about the problem. What set him off was how he owns

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Steve Smith
I have a friend who cut her teeth as a lawyer (finance) in Hong Kong maybe 15 years ago... she has since returned to Australia (via a gig in Japan) and *hates* what is happening in HK and can list endlessly the friends/colleagues whose lives have been damaged/disrupted by the changes there. T

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
Hi Steve, What's "SA"? Sonora? The usual abbreviation is "Son", the two-letter code is "SO". Or are you referring to something else? Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Nov 12, 2021, 4:20 PM Steve Smith wrote: > I have a fr

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread thompnickson2
Ok. Good. That’s interesting. Now: what is the whole policy toward china that that point of view suggests? NOT a rhetorical question. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nt

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread thompnickson2
"Is that what you want me to say? Can we launch our software in China now?" Yes, you did a great job. A taste of Hong Kong.” Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Friday,

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread thompnickson2
“与其被谎言亲吻,不如被真相打耳光。” Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 1:32 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of b

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

2021-11-12 Thread thompnickson2
Thanks, Gil, and others for assistance and commiseration. In the end, the most effective method may be to manage my own annoyance. The thing that I loved about the Call Blocker (69$) was the big red button. I might have gotten 69$ of pleasure out punching that button. n Nick T