I have a friend who cut her teeth as a lawyer (finance) in Hong Kong
maybe 15 years ago... she has since returned to Australia (via a gig in
Japan) and *hates* what is happening in HK and can list endlessly the
friends/colleagues whose lives have been damaged/disrupted by the
changes there.
This being said, however, it *does* seem like what is happening there is
the end of a century plus long occupation/colonization. She and her
friends/colleagues are all professional/merchant class and none are
ethnically Chinese. Not surprising the changes are mostly downside to them?
Juarez, Tijuana, Nogales SA all used to feel like US colonies in many
ways. They were "returned" to MX proper to some degree by the War on
Drugs and the Drug Cartel action and now becoming portals for attempted
immigration from yet more southerly/impoverished countries. I have a
lifelong friend who used to run the Zenith assembly plant in Agua Prieta
SA... she would claim that their presence there for several decades was
a huge boon to the people there, as was their strategic (for Zenith, not
the local economy) withdrawal. Of course she saw it that way. My
brother-in-law who recently retired as the longest-tenured employee (~50
years) of Freeport McMorran (who bought him up when they bought up
Phelps Dodge) would insist that it is all "upside" for the people who
once lived on the landscape where their mega pit-mines were developed
and where their private armies (FPM,not PD) were in charge of all the
necessary "rousting" to get and keep those mines
running/expanding/profit-maximized.
But back to Nick's point (or to yet another of my tangents from his
point)... the Buddhist phrase "World as battleground, world as trap,
world as lover, world as self" seems relevant? If we consider these
contexts *only* as traps and battlegrounds, that is pretty much what
they will be. Stephen G through his former (and some present) work and
familial relations in China has chose to *also* look at them (country,
people, government) through the lenses of "Lover" and "Self)?
On 11/12/21 12:56 PM, Edward Angel wrote:
We were in Taiwan during their first truly democratic election. The
U.S. media was filled with dire predictions of imminent war. The
reality was that no one in Taiwan was worried about an attack. China
and Taiwan, in spite of the rhetoric, were deeply coupled economically
and war would be disastrous for both sides. The only evidence the
Taiwanese newspapers reported in as a result of the “tensions” was an
increase in the number of prostitutes arriving in Taiwan from Macao
and Hong Kong. However, we did note that a foreign tourist was
arrested for taking down an election banner as a souvenir which was
regarded as serious offense. I doubt things are much different now.
We also spent time in Hong Kong just before and just after it going
back to China. For a while not much changed and there were
restrictions that prevented mainland Chinese from entering Hong Kong.
At that time, China was very dependent on Hong Kong as its economic
outlet to the rest of the world and didn’t want to threaten that
status. It’s very different now as China has developed many other
outlets and consequently they are willing to treat Hong Kong like the
rest of China.
Ed
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On Nov 12, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Stephen Guerin
<stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote:
Nick,
> Is Hong Kong not being digested as we speak? Is pressure not
increasing on the Taiwanese?
An orthogonal perspective is healing and unification post-occupation
and aggression by foreign powers. ie:
* North/South Vietnam
* Manchuria/China
* East/West Germany
* North/South Korea
I am concerned about US military buildup in Taiwan
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/taiwan-china-us-marines/2021/10/08/20378918-27d8-11ec-8739-5cb6aba30a30_story.html>
after agreeing to one china policy
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-China_policy> in 1979. How did we
feel about USSR flexing its muscle in Cuba?
-Stephen
这就是你想让我说的吗？ 我们现在可以在中国推出我们的软件吗？
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