Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread David Eric Smith
Thanks Steve, I hadn’t heard about this latest little bit of lunacy. Marcus is right; what must the guy’s life be like that, to very likely end up in jail for not really anything seemed like a good idea? Martin Scheffer ought to be all over this, with his “early warning signals”, using analys

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-20 Thread Sarbajit Roy
This article may help https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01377-8.pdf On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 8:36 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > What boggles my mind is that the aggregated results are so > consistently wrong. The aggregated efficacy of 67.5% is less than all the > stratified efficacies.

[FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
Why have the Taliban been able to conquer Afghanistan so quickly, although they were hopelessly outgunned for almost 20 years as the article in the Atlantic describes ("Brother... it's too cold to jihad") ? It seems as if Afghanistan exists only in two stable modes: tribalism where the country i

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
Robotics seem inevitable for keeping the pressure on for this sort of situation. https://youtu.be/j0z4FweCy4M On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:  Why have the Taliban been able to conquer Afghanistan so quickly, although they were hopelessly outgunned for almost 20 years as the

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
You mean we should forget about tribalism and Islamism because the future belongs to robots anyway? The new Tesla robot looks creepy. I want a real R2D2.-J. Original message From: Marcus Daniels Date: 8/20/21 14:42 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
This seems relevant: Weaponized Interdependence: How Global Economic Networks Shape State Coercion https://direct.mit.edu/isec/article/44/1/42/12237/Weaponized-Interdependence-How-Global-Economic Two other things that seems relevant, particularly to the quorum sensing conception, are latent vari

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nimble, weaponized drones in the air and on land, having dozens of sensors across the electromagnetic spectrum as well as advanced machine learning capabilities, could be used to hunt down targets in these hopeless states. From: Friam On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 6:07

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Prof David West
Daniel Suarez's book, Kill Decision, is a nice treatment of this scenario - both "good" and "bad" guys. But it is worthless, because the Taliban are now 'heads of state' and we are not allowed to "hunt them down." davew On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Nimble, weaponi

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-20 Thread Prof David West
Nick, my last response was kind harsh. Although, I see little value in Pirsig's books, I am very interested in the ideas or the inspirations you may have found in them, and would welcome a discussion of those things and perhaps the discovery of shared ideas/values/philosophies that are common

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
On Sunday, Blinken didn’t make it sound like that status was assured. From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 8:13 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order Daniel Suarez's book, Kill Decision, is a nice treatment of this scenario

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
I couldn't find it earlier, but now I have: What I learned from an unlikely friendship with an anti-masker https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/aug/19/anti-masker-unlikely-friendship It's that article that made me think about the relationship between weaponized interdependence and fasci

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Merle Lefkoff
Marcus, the Taliban were the biggest recipients of American largesse during the war, along with the major defense contractors (military stocks outperformed the stock market by 58%). We put so much money into Afghanistan over 20 years (at least $1trillion) the country couldn't absorb it all, and so

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread Steve Smith
EricS - Thanks for the reference to Scheffer.   I was not aware of any of his work except his participation in Rockstrom, et al's 2009 Planetary Boundaries: Safe Operating Space . I now have     Mutualistic Communities

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
Now that they have taken government buildings and so forth, there will be something to bomb again if they act up. We’re clearly better at breaking things than fixing them. From: Friam On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 8:26 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Co

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-20 Thread thompnickson2
Dave, Not harsh at all, Dave. Just the kind of variation in reading that I was interested in. For you, apparently, the book was read for its possible insights into eastern thought, and for that purpose, it wasn’t anything special; I read it for its insights into philosophy generally, and fo

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-20 Thread Steve Smith
Nick - I think your observation here hits a head on a nail...  it matters as much what our expectations are (the proto-model we have?) as the facts/data we fit to them?   Certainly my two readings were *very* different, though neither was terribly positive (if that even matters?) As if to say *e

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-20 Thread thompnickson2
Dear Steve, You attempt to find ANYTHING of value in ZAMM is touching … no, I mean that. I still have not finished rereading the damn book so will hold off on that. On mysticism, what the hell is it? I see it as a kind of giving up on the intellectual project, a hugging of the questi

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-20 Thread Steve Smith
NST - > > You attempt to find ANYTHING of value in ZAMM is touching … no, I mean > that. > it should be touching in the sense that it was your very earnestness about the work and the questions it raises that forced (allowed?) me to transcend my PTSD from my original reaction to it.   Recognize, how

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread David Eric Smith
Very good material to work though, Glen, thank you, I remember reading Walden for the first time when I was somewhat young, but not super-young, and thinking “Thoreau, you’re an idiot (or better said, a loudmouth)”. Walk into town to buy a new axe-head every time the material on your old one is