Re: [FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader

2013-03-31 Thread Jochen Fromm
Some email clients can handle RSS feeds,  too, for example ThunderBird. -J. Sent from Android Original message From: Tom Johnson Date: To: "Friam@redfish. com" Subject: [FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader All: If you're looking for an alternative to Google Reader, c

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Edward Angel
Dave, I don't think interesting describes my response to this post. More like disgusted. I would have said outraged but I'm getting too used to seeing nonsense on the web to respond as I used to. Although I agree with most of the points you and Bruce made, I disagree in a couple of important pl

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Bruce Sherwood
Ed's post is highly cogent, and based on tons of experience. One of his points that I had missed in my own analysis is the key difference between an on-line course taken by on-campus students and remote students who lack the supporting social infrastructure and may be consumed by job and life respo

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Roger Critchlow
The rankings at http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings are interesting, because I run out of non-US universities that I recognize in the rankings long before I run out of US universities that don't appear in the rankings. When I visited the site last spring they were listing tuition co

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Bruce Sherwood
Roger, it's digipen.org, not digipen.com. Bruce FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Gary Schiltz
http://digipen.edu, anyone? :-) On Mar 31, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > The rankings at http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings are > interesting, because I run out of non-US universities that I recognize in the > rankings long before I run out of US universities tha

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Roger Critchlow
digipen.com redirects to digipen.edu which is what I meant, digipen.orgdoesn't open at all. -- rec -- On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Bruce Sherwood wrote: > Roger, it's digipen.org, not digipen.com. > > Bruce > > > FRIAM Applied Co

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Bruce Sherwood
I was so eager to correct Roger's typo that I made a typo of my own! Concerning college costs, is it perhaps the case that in the 1950s college professors were paid rather little and now are often paid fairly well? I made a brief stab at digging out the data but didn't find quite what I was lookin

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Edward Angel
One of my best former students just left Pixar after 15 years to join Digipen. It will be interesting to talk to him at SIGGRAPH this summer. It's also interesting that he received all his college education in public universities before their costs became ridiculous. Let me ask you the followi

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Edward Angel
There are a lot statistics for Engineering and CS salaries. I believe the major factor is that while engineering/CS professor salaries have gone up at about the same rate as those in industry, the typical teaching load has more than dropped in half. Consequently, the cost of teaching a student h

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Roger Critchlow
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Edward Angel wrote: > > Let me ask you the following question: Do you think that the student who > chooses digipen will get a better CS education that if she went to the > University of Washington which has one of the top CS programs? How does the > answer depend

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Edward Angel
Of course that's all true but I think you're wiggling out of the essence of the question. Is the student who is honest and sincere about becoming a computer scientist (but perhaps not focussed yet on some of the specific programs at digipen) better off going to digipen over UW? You can average y

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Prof David West
Ed, I am curious where you disagree / what you disagree with. I see one thing in the post below that is inconsistent with my opinions as stated. I did not address motivations, faculty, or economics - but would agree with everything you said below in those regards. The only point of potent

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Edward Angel
Dave, Actually, I had only one very slight disagreement with you which I kind of forgot about by the end of my email. I have no problem with what you are proposing and should have pointed out how I agreed that one of the requirements of all the possible ways we can improve the system is the com

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

2013-03-31 Thread Roger Critchlow
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Edward Angel wrote: > Of course that's all true but I think you're wiggling out of the essence > of the question. Is the student who is honest and sincere about becoming a > computer scientist (but perhaps not focussed yet on some of the specific > programs at dig

[FRIAM] Fwd: Google Nose BETA

2013-03-31 Thread Owen Densmore
New google critter? I bet it only lasts a day. https://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/nose/ -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/m

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Google Nose BETA

2013-03-31 Thread Douglas Roberts
Yeah, like as long as April 1 lasts. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > New google critter? I bet it only lasts a day. > > https://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/nose/ > > -- Owen > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexit

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Google Nose BETA

2013-03-31 Thread Steve Smith
Doug - /New google critter? I bet it only lasts a day./ // // /https://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/nose// If you (and anyone else with one) open up your Nexus7 (warning, this *will void the warranty) you will see the beta scentChip they installed between the Bluetooth and WiFi

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Google Nose BETA

2013-03-31 Thread Douglas Roberts
Something doesn't smell right about this, Steve. Oh, wait. What's the date? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > Doug - > > *New google critter? I bet it only lasts a day.* > * * > ** > *https://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/nose/* > > If you (and anyone else with one)