Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-14 Thread glen
/or Medicare outrage   b) the narcissist competition *From:*Friam *On Behalf Of *Pieter Steenekamp *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 9:53 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam Elon Musk is a massive jerk. Hug

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-14 Thread glen
One aspect that flew under the radar in Eric's post was Musk's (and trump's) self-aggrandizement. Both the mention of Hanauer and the distinction between "effective" and "good" target this. And the phrase "nose for ..." also targets it. What both Musk and trump do well is persuade their audienc

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-14 Thread steve smith
EricS - Thanks for the "hyperactive matter" formulation...  I'm not entirely clear on the broader implications of this analogy, but as a fan of collective, emergent phenomena, it is fascinating to apply it to more agentic things than sand-grains for example. The whole Swarm legacy, of course

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-14 Thread Santafe
nStreetMap (UK) too. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> >>> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerin >>> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 1:53 PM >>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group &g

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-13 Thread steve smith
ry 13, 2025 12:32 PM *To:* friam@redfish.com *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam On 2/13/25 12:39 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: "Elon really wants to save the world - but only if it's him who does it." -- Sam Altman and save it in his own image (t

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
attention he needs on social media and now with DOGE. From: Friam On Behalf Of steve smith Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 12:32 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam On 2/13/25 12:39 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: "Elon really wan

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-13 Thread steve smith
On 2/13/25 12:39 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: "Elon really wants to save the world - but only if it's him who does it." -- Sam Altman and save it in his own image (that one impressed on him by too much "old fashioned future" SciFi?) I sometimes worry that Musk in his "autism-spectrum" affect a

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
"Elon really wants to save the world - but only if it's him who does it." -- Sam Altman From: Friam On Behalf Of cody dooderson Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 11:33 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight betwe

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-13 Thread cody dooderson
I want to like Musk. At one point I did, for the reasons mentioned above. I am suspicious that his neuro-link is malfunctioning and destroying his empathy. That being said, I am hopeful that he brings the metric system to the USA, and somehow doesn't end up in charge of the nuclear weapons arsenal

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread steve smith
Steve, I really like your reply. There’s a lot I could comment on and maybe add a different perspective—not as a competing argument, but just another view. But for now, I’ll focus on this part: */_It seems possible, for example, that Tesla's dominance in the EV market is past..._/* I wou

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 19:40, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >> I find the OpenAI purchase attempt strange. He must really have an >> inferiority complex, since xAI has the hardware now to compete.[1] Or >> maybe they have the money and brawn but not the brains? >> >> F

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread steve smith
nd brawn but not the brains? For robotaxis, I’d bet on Waymo not Tesla.  Waymo is very conspicuous and popular in San Francisco. [1] https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/xai-raises-another-6bn-including-from-nvidia-and-amd/ *From: *Friam on behalf of Jon Zinga

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
nother-6bn-including-from-nvidia-and-amd/ > > > > *From: *Friam on behalf of Jon Zingale < > jonzing...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 9:13 AM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject: *Re

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
I suspect my view on Elon Musk might be ever so slightly different from the opinions on this group. So, naturally, I asked Grok for help—because if anyone knows about eccentric billionaires with Twitter problems, it’s Grok Me: Please give me a very detailed description with references of all the

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
Seems underutilized in the life sciences.. That would be where I would think finding subtle patterns across datasets and the literature would be the good fit for LLMs. https://assets.anthropic.com/m/2e23255f1e84ca97/original/Economic_Tasks_AI_Paper.pdf

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
o: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam "Apparently, Tesla only managed to show profitability last quarter due to unrealized earnings on Bitcoin. Stock is way overvalued." Technically, I would put a short-t

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread Jon Zingale
"Apparently, Tesla only managed to show profitability last quarter due to unrealized earnings on Bitcoin. Stock is way overvalued." Technically, I would put a short-term (let's say 3 year) fair value around $210 or so, but would likely wait to pay $150-$160. Fundamentally, I would like to see the

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread steve smith
uary 11, 2025 7:36 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam What do the Twitter purchase and the OpenAI bid have in common with the dismantling of USAID and the DEI purge? Control the narrative. He's not defending open-source. And he's no

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread glen
ged to show profitability last quarter due to unrealized earnings on Bitcoin. Stock is way overvalued. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:36 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam What d

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
Apparently, Tesla only managed to show profitability last quarter due to unrealized earnings on Bitcoin. Stock is way overvalued. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:36 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread glen
What do the Twitter purchase and the OpenAI bid have in common with the dismantling of USAID and the DEI purge? Control the narrative. He's not defending open-source. And he's not trying to crush the competition. He's trying and succeeding at controlling the narrative. In many ways, Musk has l

[FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-10 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
Elon and Sam co-founded OpenAI (along with others) as a non-profit, aiming to make AI open-source for the good of humanity. Then things got messy. Elon walked away, saying he didn’t want a conflict of interest since Tesla was also diving into AI. Later, Sam flipped the script. He created a for-pr