"Elon really wants to save the world - but only if it's him who does it." -- Sam Altman
From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of cody dooderson Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 11:33 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam I want to like Musk. At one point I did, for the reasons mentioned above. I am suspicious that his neuro-link is malfunctioning and destroying his empathy. That being said, I am hopeful that he brings the metric system to the USA, and somehow doesn't end up in charge of the nuclear weapons arsenal in the process. On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 7:23 PM steve smith <sasm...@swcp.com <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com> > wrote: Steve, I really like your reply. There’s a lot I could comment on and maybe add a different perspective—not as a competing argument, but just another view. But for now, I’ll focus on this part: It seems possible, for example, that Tesla's dominance in the EV market is past... I wouldn’t be so sure. I'm definitely not "sure", just noting that things have their eras and timings. Many very innovative and (for a moment) powerful vehicle manufacturers have come and gone for many reasons. I don't know how much of the Tesla innovations can be reverse-engineered or mimicked and/or leap-frogged. Or made completely obselete the way the Steam Autos of the turn of 1900 were in spite of amazing multiple innovations to make them possible/viable). Private automobiles (and maybe even rideshare/robotaxi) may be on their last decade or so anyway (see PubCrawl thread with Glen). Or maybe everyone Jacked on Synthetic Testosterone will flee to Mars and leave this lousy Blue Green Ball of Dirt for us dirty hippies to wallow on while they all become hyperCyborgs and we wait for Ma Nature to clean up our messes? Contrary to this: I just had my second hip replaced and have a brand new (Hypershell via Kickstarter <https://hypershell.tech/en-us> ) lower-body exoskeleton I hope to be sporting for recovery-enhancement soon). I'm waiting for XR/AR glasses to jump one more generation and I'll then probably wandering around the countryside talking twith them while they identify every plant, animal, rock and cloud formation for me and chat me up with all the absurd possible implications of all that? After all their LLM backing will have read every book I have and many I have not and *I* will be giving it access to the human bipedal equivalent of "FSD data gathering" while likely being it's "Meat Puppet"? Maybe some other real people/humans will start dropping by my house more often to teach me GO strategy and talk about "Cabbages and Kings and Sealing Wax" before I go full transhuman/cyborg/meat-puppet in spite of my Luddite tendencies? Maybe cook a meal together (or just shake up a flask of Huel/Soylent?). Maybe let me show them how to fire a classic blacksmith's forge with low-sulfur coal and beat a leaf spring into a plowshare or something? Or pet a chicken whilst stealing her egg. Nostalgic eh? So mid-2020s of me. I can't wait for what late 2025 will bring, if we survive that long? If I were 20 years younger I'd be digging a bomb shelter with microfiltration (against th enext pandemic) and stocking staples and trade goods... but I'm not and ready to go down in the blaze of self-glory along with everyone else (except Larry Ellison and a few others who own their own islands in the middle of the Pacific?) For this dystopic perspective I recommend Doctorow's 2018 "Masque of the Red Death" which shows the folly of such wankBillionaires... a wealthy prepper named Martin Mars, who has built a high-tech survival bunker called "Fort Doom" in anticipation of societal collapse. As the world falls apart due to pandemics, climate disasters, and economic collapse, Martin believes his careful planning and resources will keep him and his chosen elite safe. However, things don’t go as planned, and the story critiques the flawed logic of billionaire survivalists who think they can escape the consequences of global catastrophe. grumble, - Steve .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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