Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-21 Thread Roger Critchlow
Who knew? The Regeneron antibody treatments for Covid-19 are available and approved as a treatment or for prophylaxis. It also sounds like they're free. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-monoclonal-abbott/2021/08/19/a39a0b5e-0029-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html -- rec -- On Fri, A

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread David Eric Smith
Very good material to work though, Glen, thank you, I remember reading Walden for the first time when I was somewhat young, but not super-young, and thinking “Thoreau, you’re an idiot (or better said, a loudmouth)”. Walk into town to buy a new axe-head every time the material on your old one is

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread Steve Smith
EricS - Thanks for the reference to Scheffer.   I was not aware of any of his work except his participation in Rockstrom, et al's 2009 Planetary Boundaries: Safe Operating Space . I now have     Mutualistic Communities

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
I couldn't find it earlier, but now I have: What I learned from an unlikely friendship with an anti-masker https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/aug/19/anti-masker-unlikely-friendship It's that article that made me think about the relationship between weaponized interdependence and fasci

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
This seems relevant: Weaponized Interdependence: How Global Economic Networks Shape State Coercion https://direct.mit.edu/isec/article/44/1/42/12237/Weaponized-Interdependence-How-Global-Economic Two other things that seems relevant, particularly to the quorum sensing conception, are latent vari

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-20 Thread David Eric Smith
Thanks Steve, I hadn’t heard about this latest little bit of lunacy. Marcus is right; what must the guy’s life be like that, to very likely end up in jail for not really anything seemed like a good idea? Martin Scheffer ought to be all over this, with his “early warning signals”, using analys

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread David Eric Smith
So Marcus, Your response is interesting. What I was thinking of as the inflammation was BLM, or the fact that the Georgia organizers were able to get enough voters out to get all three of Biden, Warnock, and Ossof into office, which even with their same heroic efforts over years I don’t think

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread David Eric Smith
There is an angle on this that I have wondered about. In a sort of short-term sense, it would have been very gratifying for SARS-CoV-2 to have killed trump. You know that tired trope: God is dead — Nietzche Nietzsche is dead — God Same idea. But as I think of it, I think that

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread Steve Smith
EricS > > Fascist Quorum Sensing When 'Q' emerged in the right wing popular attention, I did make a brief connection with "Quorum" in the sense you reference  it, though more specifically as Bee Swarm/Nest trigger/choice.   Having once been a holder of a DOE 'Q' clearance, the very idea that that

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread David Eric Smith
> On Aug 20, 2021, at 1:31 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > > The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, has tested positive for the virus, > although he is fully vaccinated. He has no symptoms but receives the same > $100,000 Regeneron treatment as Donald Trump, maybe because he sits in a > wheelchair a

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
Eric writes: “I have wondered whether trump in the presidency was like an adjuvant in a vaccine. Just having the antigen leaves room for highly variable responses, because if you don’t manage the inflammatory response that initiates the immune response, you have only a weak control system. Tr

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
:58 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all Is it right? Is it right that I can eat steak and some can’t afford enough rice and beans? The world is grossly unfair  I’m sure I’m not the only one who struggles

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread Gary Schiltz
Is it right? Is it right that I can eat steak and some can’t afford enough rice and beans? The world is grossly unfair I’m sure I’m not the only one who struggles with the unfairness of the world. The question is what to do about it. How much social disruption would occur from a governor dying in

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Related: Profiteering from vaccine inequity: a crime against humanity? https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2027 Antibody Cocktails to Treat Covid Take Off as Delta Surges https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-16/once-rare-antibody-cocktails-to-treat-covid-take-off-amid-delta On 8/19/2

[FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

2021-08-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, has tested positive for the virus, although he is fully vaccinated. He has no symptoms but receives the same $100,000 Regeneron treatment as Donald Trump, maybe because he sits in a wheelchair and belongs to a risk group. Is it right that famous politicians ar