Who knew? The Regeneron antibody treatments for Covid-19 are available and approved as a treatment or for prophylaxis. It also sounds like they're free.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-monoclonal-abbott/2021/08/19/a39a0b5e-0029-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html -- rec -- On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:57 PM David Eric Smith <desm...@santafe.edu> wrote: > Very good material to work though, Glen, thank you, > > I remember reading Walden for the first time when I was somewhat young, > but not super-young, and thinking “Thoreau, you’re an idiot (or better > said, a loudmouth)”. > > Walk into town to buy a new axe-head every time the material on your old > one is worn far enough down that you can’t sharpen it any more. Go > re-invent iron smelting and then write about it. > > Interestingly, within the past 12 hours, somebody sent me a link to a talk > Nora Bateson gave in Copenhagen about a documentary she made of her father > and the “ecology of mind” thing: > ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8lA8jsQkNw ) > > I haec no history with this stuff, and her sort-of self-congratulatory > affect puts me off (or maybe I just wrongly read that into the face of > somebody I don’t know at all). But the theme that one wants to perceive > things heavily in terms of their relations seems like a hard thing to > object to. It’s funny, now that I am surrounded on one hand by category > theorists, and on the other by meditators, that I can parse the same > conversation as being about two rather different things. > > Eric > > > > On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:23 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I couldn't find it earlier, but now I have: > > What I learned from an unlikely friendship with an anti-masker > > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.theguardian.com%2flifeandstyle%2f2021%2faug%2f19%2fanti-masker-unlikely-friendship&c=E,1,GApCWomC4MnHKQ3-4O79s-zNaaL9x2lWWqXeTwvE2W35KWgALOkLBfSvMg4DaqE9vIy2VgKmRm5uYyS2gT6iKOZRCgmeIrLF-aU1Wu3rLvnkYmEcqUA,&typo=1 > > It's that article that made me think about the relationship between > weaponized interdependence and fascism seething underneath a functionally > equivalent phenotype. In Pandian's article, his friend "Frank" says: “I’m > good with dividing the country," Frank declares. "One side gets the west > and one side gets the east. We are self-sufficient. Your side is not." The > key lies in that interdependence. One of the dominant themes amongst the > "free speech" crowd, complaining about weaponized interdependence, is their > blindness to the benefits of interdependence. > > Most of the "preppers" I've met will claim up and down they're not racist, > or anti-government, or blahblah. They claim to just want to be > self-sufficient, which is laughable to a dork like me who knows the > logistics behind the tools and weapons they think make them independent. > Are you really going off grid if you're using tech developed in China or by > the US funding agencies? But therein lies evidence we're using leaky > vaccines ... facilitating the functionally neutral, seething fascism. > > In the end, the emergence of things like QAnon, the Stop the Steal attack, > etc. is one side *failing* to weaponize extant interdependence. Forget > issues like Twitter suspending Trump or the Taliban. Think more like > competent gun control and *universal* healthcare. Those networks are not > being weaponized to good effect. > > On 8/20/21 6:24 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > > This seems relevant: > > Weaponized Interdependence: How Global Economic Networks Shape State > Coercion > > https://direct.mit.edu/isec/article/44/1/42/12237/Weaponized-Interdependence-How-Global-Economic > > Two other things that seems relevant, particularly to the quorum sensing > conception, are latent variables in causal inference and neutral networks > in evolution. Rebecca's recent video essay on leaky vaccines may also ring > some bells: https://youtu.be/_J-zWtoG9ZM, which seems akin to the > relationship between disinfectants and hospital super bugs. > > > On 8/19/21 10:52 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: > > Thanks Steve, > > I hadn’t heard about this latest little bit of lunacy. Marcus is right; > what must the guy’s life be like that, to very likely end up in jail for > not really anything seemed like a good idea? > > Martin Scheffer ought to be all over this, with his “early warning > signals”, using analysis of the magnitude-frequency distributions of > collective fluctuations to predict “tipping points”. We hear about Rosa > Parks. We don’t (unless we work in the area) understand the long string of > events that preceded, and in important ways, led up to Rosa Parks and made > the event she precipitated possible. > > Eric > > > On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com <mailto: > sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: > > EricS > > > Fascist Quorum Sensing > > > When 'Q' emerged in the right wing popular attention, I did make a brief > connection with "Quorum" in the sense you reference it, though more > specifically as Bee Swarm/Nest trigger/choice. Having once been a holder > of a DOE 'Q' clearance, the very idea that that level/style of clearance > would give him the kind of insider information attributed to him/her/them > was absurd. Some of the other clearances, *maybe*, but not obviously the > 'Q'. > > The news today with the lame-O-bomber wannabe kicked off another round of > DHS/domestic-terror-watch warnings that another "quorum" is trying to rise > up. The (liberal) news media is giving lip-service to not "amplifying" > his signal, etc. > > Seems like something similar (but not responsibly scientific) about how > the Taliban was able to flip the whole country almost overnight is afoot. > > - SteveS > > > (For those who don’t do this for a living, the reference is to the > phenomenon in bacteria like Anthrax (B. anthracis), which will multiply > inside a victim for many generations with no real chemical activity besides > a normal parasitic metabolism, but will secrete signaling chemicals. When > those chemicals hit a threshold concentration because the population has > multiplied enough, which the bacteria all know because they all have the > same genome, they switch state, turn on the chemical attack machinery, and > dissolve the victim on a timescale far too short for any inflammatory or > immune response to do much about them.) > > Google does not show anyone as having used it yet, even though it is a > no-brainer. > > The idea being to say something productive about the abruptness of it all. > > > From Gingrich and Norquist up through end-2020, the right thought its best > strategy was to do the usual dissembling and dogwhistling, just at higher > intensity. Something has switched and they think this —specifically — is > the time to make a run for it and to parade the fascism instead. > > While the strategic-games crowd (and military people etc.) will say they > have long written about shifting modes, the idea that there can be an > unplanned component at the popular level akin to quorum sensing might have > something to be said of it. > > Even on the question of whether trump mattered, I can see a sort of SFI > angle on it, with the idea of “slow timescale variables” that Jessica Flack > makes central to the rubric that for a while (perhaps still) she was > calling “construction dynamics”. The idea that a sort of order-parameter > stuck thing can smooth out fluctuations and make an inference problem > easier and more stable, or a transition in domains more likely. Here the > fast variables would have been the Lindsay Graham characters, who flutter > like day-traders among all possible positions, trying to guess from minute > to minute what is safe. Those guys would not have put Steven Miller’s face > on TV, because they would have judged that he was too ugly to use. > > Enter trump, whose 2024 motto can be “The Worse, The Better”, who said “I > can make ugly work.” But it didn’t change the system state in a few > months, or even in a year. The flutterers took years of reassurance, and a > couple of election cycles, before they switched from the lysogenic to the > lytic phase. Without trump as a slow variable, would the flutterers have > continued to flutter a while longer? Can one say anything about that that > has any scientific worth, and isn’t just firing off buzzwords? > > Eric > > > On Aug 20, 2021, at 7:53 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com <mailto: > mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: > > Eric writes: > > “I have wondered whether trump in the presidency was like an adjuvant in a > vaccine. Just having the antigen leaves room for highly variable > responses, because if you don’t manage the inflammatory response that > initiates the immune response, you have only a weak control system. Trump > was so awful in so many dimensions that he triggers inflammation in those > who would have remained asleep under Clinton.” > > The mask protests like this one.. > > > https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/19/mask-wars-unrest-flores-pkg-dlt-vpx.cnn > < > https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/19/mask-wars-unrest-flores-pkg-dlt-vpx.cnn > > > > ..strike me as something that M. Night Shyamalan could not even invent. > Say the guy at 1:40. > I should be thinking of these folks as my fellow citizens? Really? > > Is it just me or is maybe the “inflammation” getting a little out of > control? For example, > the other day I was driving down a narrow part of the road in my > residential area and pulled off to the side to let a car pass that was > coming the other way. He (white middle-aged man) was not signaling, but > as soon as I spent five seconds off the side to let him pass he started > screaming at me and waving his fist out the car window. Apparently I had > dared to block his driveway. Is it really that hard for some people to > get through their day? > > It increasingly seems to me that maybe there is just all this crazy just > below the surface, and all that can be done is to keep the inflammation > down. > > Marcus > > > -- > ☤>$ uǝlƃ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,VFGFMwhMoXtWaEnw8J-8SGyUnvXOmdkWZqyKy4a3EV87ev45mMHnsA1SWHQHmXrYvjJVlQBJ4go2L39FMrwX2J2wla74SWGb8F_Io0xzKIz3Lw,,&typo=1 > FRIAM-COMIC > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&c=E,1,Vj-NKCduO-a_egE4RnXhFKwPd4343JSMmW59_WySSUuJyvTmOMs6gE3QGS_hDrlC4UtxYUZ5jTtJr8Tb2OMcL3HquHqr-cdoT4wf48OeJPRTgw,,&typo=1 > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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