Nick writes:
< What role does occam's razor play in software development? Any? Or did it
used to, and now it doesn't any more. >
Imagine telling a contractor that you wanted a room for watching movies.
Instead of looking at the rooms you have, running wires to speakers, and adding
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On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 07:29:27AM +, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Most programmers won't struggle to rationalize or improve code written by
other people.The problem is that people are selfish. They think that
their
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 07:29:27AM +, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Most programmers won't struggle to rationalize or improve code written by
> other people.The problem is that people are selfish. They think that
> their 10K LOC problem is beautiful and nimble, but that 1M LOC was once that
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 2:56 PM
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Frank -
I am, it's first draft is roughly what I get when I filte
t;> Although CenturyLink is growing its IP-based voice service, this project
>> is focused on consolidating more than 400,000 legacy PSTN subscriber lines
>> across 50 Class 5 voice switches. "
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>> Switching System is a Class 5 telephone electronic switching
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> code is still used? I once worked for a small company that
> wrote software to do billing for long distance telephone
> carriers. I was amazed by the seemingly arbitrary
> complexity. Complex at a policy and inter-organizational
> level, not just the sof
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June 2019) (Learn how and when to remove this template message). 5ESS used in a
mobile telephone network. The 5ESS Switching System is a Class 5 telephone
electronic switching system developed by ...
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> At Bell Labs we sure didn't pay anyone by LOC. We also had code reviews
> and software tools to enforce standards and very high pay. With a
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] IT is Not Sustainable
At Bell Labs we sure didn't pay anyone by LOC. We also had code reviews and
software tools to enforce standards and very high pay. With a brand new PhD I
made more than all but the 3 most senior members of the CS faculty at Pitt
where I was a
At Bell Labs we sure didn't pay anyone by LOC. We also had code reviews
and software tools to enforce standards and very high pay. With a brand
new PhD I made more than all but the 3 most senior members of the CS
faculty at Pitt where I was a grad student. This was the telephone network
in quest
Spot on.
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 2:29 AM Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Most programmers won't struggle to rationalize or improve code written by
> other people.The problem is that people are selfish. They think that
> their 10K LOC problem is beautiful and nimble, but that 1M LOC was once
> that
Most programmers won't struggle to rationalize or improve code written by other
people.The problem is that people are selfish. They think that their 10K
LOC problem is beautiful and nimble, but that 1M LOC was once that too.It's
the behavior of teenagers.
On 12/25/19, 10:47 PM, "Friam
It's all about the LOC! Actually, I kind of agree - having worked on
some MegaLOC codebases that functionally seemed to be no more complex
than a 10KLOC project I'm involved in, the 10KLOC project is much more
nimble - compile times are far less, making changes to the code easier
and bugs less trou
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How did we go from the possibility of sustainable IT to weather and Christmas
decorations?
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Nick,
Dick Goddard and his woolly bears couldn't
have said it better!
Jon
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> just puffery
>
> the attached article was published on Medium.com and immediately selected as
> an editor's recommendation in Environment and in Technology se
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 2:43 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: [FRIAM] IT is Not Sustainable
just puffery
the attached article was published on Medium.com and immediately selected
just puffery
the attached article was published on Medium.com and immediately selected as an
editor's recommendation in Environment and in Technology sections, then
republished to The Startup with 550,000 readers.
one or two of you might find it interesting
dave west
ITNOT.pdf
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