[FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

2021-09-14 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
In the Phizer report "Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine" ( https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.full.pdf) , I picked up the following: "During the blinded, controlled period, 15 BNT162b2 and 14 placebo recipients died" Does this mean the

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
In Mexico the equivalent expression is (or was) "ash!' --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 7:22 PM wrote: > Glen, > > As you have taught me to say [and I love to say it], " Oh, pfft!" (I > even threw in a few extra

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread thompnickson2
Glen, As you have taught me to say [and I love to say it], " Oh, pfft!" (I even threw in a few extra eff's, in honor of you.] Surely regulating mob formation is one of the thing that even Libertarian states legitimately do. I share your distaste for victim/trauma narratives, but I still

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
See kernel.com On Sep 14, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Steve Smith wrote:  Glen- Ha! Well, not for me. I'm a technophile. Even more important than drug-induced experiences are those induced by other technologies like transcranial magnetic stimulation, which I don't regard as fundamentally different fro

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Steve Smith
Glen- > Ha! Well, not for me. I'm a technophile. Even more important than > drug-induced experiences are those induced by other technologies like > transcranial magnetic stimulation, which I don't regard as fundamentally > different from connectivity drugs. Implants would be even better for > i

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2021-09-14 Thread Barry MacKichan
MailMate on the Mac. https://freron.com —Barry On 13 Sep 2021, at 10:31, Gary Schiltz wrote: What email client and platform are you using? On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:37 AM Barry MacKichan < barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote: My email client keeps track of conversations, so if message A tod

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Jon Zingale
"The silly little details of how unfairly the mob has treated you don't matter. Get over it. Life sucks. Then you die." Yes, please, but with mobs at all scales, all the way down! - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
Different people get jerked around differently as culture evolves. That's about it. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:32 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc IDK. It came off as triggered snowflake to

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
IDK. It came off as triggered snowflake to me ... holding onto an obsolete, nostalgic conception of what it means to be human. Of course the nail that sticks up must be hammered down. That's the way a hyper-connected world works. These people who expect others to take into considerations the in

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Eric Charles
That is a really good article. Oddly well balanced, veering at times one direction or another, then correcting. Coulda been tightened up a bit... but if that's my only criticism, that's pretty high praise! On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 4:33 AM ⛧ glen wrote: > The New Puritans > > https://www.theat

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Ha! Well, not for me. I'm a technophile. Even more important than drug-induced experiences are those induced by other technologies like transcranial magnetic stimulation, which I don't regard as fundamentally different from connectivity drugs. Implants would be even better for interacting with t

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread thompnickson2
Wow, Glen, No doubt about it. Dreams are experiences. Fake only in the sense that they don't prove out. Small comfort when you are in the middle of one. I used to fly in my dreams...really FLY! Funny how dreams peel off like onions, as bit-by-bit, they fail to prove out. So, when the

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - Fascinating synthetic dream-experience!  I have a LOT of those (qualitatively entirely synthetic best I can tell) and generally revel in them.  I don't have conventional "nightmares" but the kind of vividness you report combined with various (nearly?) unsolvable problems can be *very* tedio

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Speaking of dreams ... I had this very vivid color dream sitting on "my" patio, a patio I've never actually seen in woke fugues, behind a house I've never actually seen while awake, watching a non-biomimetically tall deciduous tree that doesn't exist bend to some high winds. An impossibly long b

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Prof David West
Glen: *Were I fully liberated, I'd be doing a lot more, and a lot more diverse, drugs than I do.* Diversity of *_*experiences*_*, not just drugs!! davew On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 10:29 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > Yeah, well. Were I fully liberated, I'd be doing a lot more, and a lot > more diverse,

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/14/21 10:29 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > Yeah, well. Were I fully liberated, I'd be doing a lot more, and a lot more > diverse, drugs than I do. Reading books is all well and good. But my guess is > the experience of liberty is more expansive than intellectual knowledge of > liberty. It takes a m

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
"Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie." omigod! https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/09/matrix-resurrections-trailer-is-sheer-perfection-both-fresh-and-familiar/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Yeah, well. Were I fully liberated, I'd be doing a lot more, and a lot more diverse, drugs than I do. Reading books is all well and good. But my guess is the experience of liberty is more expansive than intellectual knowledge of liberty. It takes a magician to truly appreciate magic. On 9/14/21

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread thompnickson2
He was the Mill that had a scandalous affair and went on seances with the likes of Erasmus Darwin. [Charles never had any truck for that sort of thing.] Mill sure knew what i

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
On 9/14/21 7:38 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I sometimes wonder about these people that have thousands of connections on > LinkedIn. (Likewise for Twitter, etc.) I assume they are mostly strangers. > > The potential for contagion through that kind of network seems as risky as > any benefit it

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread thompnickson2
I salted away the thought that most of Mill's ON LIBERTY concerned EXTRA legal repression. Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of ? glen Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:33 AM To: FriAM Subject: [FR

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
I sometimes wonder about these people that have thousands of connections on LinkedIn. (Likewise for Twitter, etc.) I assume they are mostly strangers. The potential for contagion through that kind of network seems as risky as any benefit it may have. > On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:34 AM, ⛧ glen wr

[FRIAM] vive la ondelette

2021-09-14 Thread Roger Critchlow
Ingrid Daubechies profiled, https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/magazine/ingrid-daubechies.html, Duke's counter to Cambridge committed to making women 30% of the math faculty. -- rec -- - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30

[FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread ⛧ glen
The New Puritans https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/10/new-puritans-mob-justice-canceled/619818/ Steps extracted: 1) you divide your acquaintances into heroes, villains, and good-but-useless. 2) you can't continue in your (admittedly "successful") learned behaviors (career, etc.).