Re: [FRIAM] Predatory journals: no definition, no defence

Thanks, Russell. You are a man of great patience. As a freelance journalist, who only writes for money, I long ago gave up on the idea of only pitching story ideas to one editor at a time. Depending on the topic and time factor, three to five query letters sent at the same time were not unusual. F

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Clear I am going to have to read Rescher before I write any more posts to this thread. That should give you guys a rest. N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Messag

Re: [FRIAM] IT is Not Sustainable

What role does occam's razor play in software development? Any? Or did it used to, and now it doesn't any more. By the way, I apologize if I am not staying with this discussion adequately. The last few days have been a firehose of good stuff and, to be honest, I am choking on it. N Nicholas

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On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 07:29:27AM +, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Most programmers won't struggle to rationalize or improve code written by > other people.The problem is that people are selfish. They think that > their 10K LOC problem is beautiful and nimble, but that 1M LOC was once that >

Re: [FRIAM] Predatory journals: no definition, no defence

My own experience of one of those infamous journals: http://www.hpcoders.com.au/blog/?p=58 Cheers On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 10:00:11PM +0200, Tom Johnson wrote: > Perhaps of interest.  > > https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03759-y > > > Predatory journals: no definition, no defence >

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I'm sure I've met Rescher at Pitt. In the mid-sixties (I think) most of Yale's philosophy department moved en masse to Pitt resulting in it's being ranked second to Harvard in the Carter Study q.v. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frank

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Heh... ask and ye shall receive! https://fewd.univie.ac.at/fileadmin/user_upload/inst_ethik_wiss_dialog/Rescher__Nicholas__2008_Moral_Objectivity.pdf Rescher, seemingly a Peircian pragmatist, goes through a hypothetical in an attempt to argue that for a moral principle to be objective, the commu

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And before that at Berkeley, HP Labs, and Bell Labs. C’est moi. ... Bob > On Dec 26, 2019, at 18:14, Angel Edward wrote: > > It may be Bob but he spent most of his career at Sandia and before that at > UNM CS. > > Ed > __ > > Ed Angel > > Founding Director, Art, Research, Technolog

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He still spent more time at Bell Labs than I did. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 6:15 PM Angel

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It may be Bob but he spent most of his career at Sandia and before that at UNM CS. Ed __ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984

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Bob Ballance!! --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 4:40 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Also, there wa

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I don't know what you mean by "base" or "foundational". But I suspect there are plenty of postmodernists who *allow* for a truth of the matter. They simply don't think such truth is directly accessible, which I *thought* postmodernism held in common with both pragmatism and pragmaticism. Doesn't

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Also, there was a guy who had also worked at Bell Labs, for a lot longer than I did, who used to come to Friam. Then he got some kind of honorary position in DC left town temporarily. He had thinning white hair and wore glasses and was about my height. With that unique description someone must k

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Our Own Lee Rudolph, was there as well. In the belly of Net Logo, I think. Lee Are you out there? Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com

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Well, for what it's worth, I have a strong taste for Schadenfreud... The weird merger of pragmatic and postmodern thinking always bristles me. I can see how Rorty gets there, selectively taking from William James and others, but it is all so... dystopic. I don't think Peirce would have any proble

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Wow. Somebody I don't know read my memoir. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 2:56 PM Steven A Smi

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Frank -     I am, it's first draft is roughly what I get when I filter my outbox.  The chapters on "memoirs of sci/tech" are in the "recipients:Friam" stream... this collection may very well also be the primary contents of many's TL;DR folder here.     I would appreciate a second memoir from your

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Hi, eric, I share your distaste for Schadenfreud: Isn’t that a great word! Schaden arises from the same root as “scar”. Its root meaning is taking pleasure in leaving scars in others – “scar-inflicting-joy.” I have the same problem with Rorty, who seems to take joy in tearing down what ot

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Awesome! I love it when the thread forks but so clearly maintains its pre-fork core. The pragmatism of truth-flexible power analytics is revealed, perhaps, in Krugman's "taking sides". It's clear that partisanship (think Pelosi) need not involve a total loss of non-partisan credibility. Some of

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In spite of this review, I still agree with Krugman. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/review-paul-krugman-arguing-with-zombies/603052/ Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2019, at 9:25 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: And this is one of the reasons postmodern rhetoric is more pragmatic than

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I am relieved you brought up the Truth/Power bundling, Glen, because I wanted to but was too much of a coward to do it. There is a style of speech that I hear often, which goes something like “It doesn’t matter what so-and-so says, or thinks he means. He is just claiming he owns truth, but I k

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Steve, You should write a memoir. Frank --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 10:42 AM Steven A Smit

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Frank - It is fascinating to hear that you were in the "belly of the beast" if only for a short while.  I suppose we have all been in the belly of *some* beast in our various times. My earliest years were without a telephone in the house (camp-trailer in the woods) followed by several party lines

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And this is one of the reasons postmodern rhetoric is more pragmatic than modern rhetoric, because it shifts the concern away from Truth and toward Power. It's nothing more nor less than the standard gumshoe technique of following the money. If you want to know why some yahoo said what he said,

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Hi Nick, There probably are many such studies that people on this list will know of from deeper traditions in Computer Science, but the one I happen to know about is solo work by David Ackley of UNM. He did a study of the replacement statistics of C libraries in open-source software, explicitl

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Has anybody written for us defrocked English majors an account of the evolution of software.It must be subject to the same klugy processes that organismic evolution is but it also must be different because, with software evolution you can, SOMETIMES, go back to the beginning and start again.

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"CenturyLink (NYSE: CTL) has set a goal to reduce power consumption on its public switched telephone network by nearly 22,000 megawatt-hours a year, reducing greenhouse gas emissions as more customers migrate to VoIP and mobile voice services. Although CenturyLink is growing its IP-based voice ser

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June 2019) (Learn how and when to remove this template message). 5ESS used in a mobile telephone network. The 5ESS Switching System is a Class 5 telephone electronic switching system developed by ... --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankw

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Frank writes: “This was the telephone network in question.“ With the mobile carriers and VOIP, I wonder how much of that code is still used? I once worked for a small company that wrote software to do billing for long distance telephone carriers. I was amazed by the seemingly arbitrary compl

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At Bell Labs we sure didn't pay anyone by LOC. We also had code reviews and software tools to enforce standards and very high pay. With a brand new PhD I made more than all but the 3 most senior members of the CS faculty at Pitt where I was a grad student. This was the telephone network in quest

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Spot on. On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 2:29 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Most programmers won't struggle to rationalize or improve code written by > other people.The problem is that people are selfish. They think that > their 10K LOC problem is beautiful and nimble, but that 1M LOC was once > that