[Freesurfer] longitudinal analyses for one group

2013-06-28 Thread Sandra Preissler
Dear freesurfer experts, we want to do longitudinal analyses for two different time points in only one group (We do not have a control group or different groups within the intervention). So we did the longitudinal processing as described in the tutorial (http://ftp.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswi

[Freesurfer] trouble in freesurfer v5.3

2013-06-28 Thread R B
Hi Freesurfer Experts, i have earlier worked in freesurfer previous versions. i was able to get preliminary results. i have trouble with freesurfer version V 5.3, i have error in this step of the analysis " minc_modify_header: posixio.c:210: px_pgin:Assertion `*posp == ((off_t)(-1)) || *posp == lse

Re: [Freesurfer] Differences on baseline volumes within subject cross-sectional vs longitudinal processing

2013-06-28 Thread Koolschijn , Cédric
Hi Martin, Unfortunately it is not a single subject, it happens to many. If I run FS 5.3, I also have to rerun the cross-sectional exploration study, otherwise differences between samples may be explained by different versions of the software. FYI, no editting was done, except for adjusting wate

[Freesurfer] re gcareg ?

2013-06-28 Thread Dov Sadan
Hi, Thank you all for the wonderful project! >From time to time while reading some of the wiki pages it has the feeling of reading ancient Chinese. https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/gcareg I'd be happy if anyone help me understand what GCA ? and ismri/no. are ? Thanks in advance, Dov __

Re: [Freesurfer] re gcareg ?

2013-06-28 Thread Dov Sadan
i meant mri/nu.mgz . On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Dov Sadan wrote: > Hi, > Thank you all for the wonderful project! > > From time to time while reading some of the wiki pages it has the feeling > of reading ancient Chinese. > > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/gcareg > > I'd be hap

Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problem

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
sorry, I didn't notice that. What were your min and max set to? On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Xiangzhen Kong wrote: Thanks very much. Another problem, do you know why the color bar is inversed in my first email? Might it be related to the right-left weird problem?   __

Re: [Freesurfer] Differences on baseline volumes within subject cross-sectional vs longitudinal processing

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
can you send us an example with a 500% increase? On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Koolschijn, Cédric wrote: Hi Martin, Unfortunately it is not a single subject, it happens to many. If I run FS 5.3, I also have to rerun the cross-sectional exploration study, otherwise differences between samples may be ex

Re: [Freesurfer] re gcareg ?

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
GCA = gaussian classifier array (a spatially varying set of Gaussians). I don't see ismri/no. on the page, but maybe you mean the mri directory? On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Dov Sadan wrote: Hi, Thank you all for the wonderful project! From time to time while reading some of the wiki pages it has th

Re: [Freesurfer] re gcareg ?

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
oh, it saves takes the volume nu.mgz in the directory $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/mri as input On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Dov Sadan wrote: i meant mri/nu.mgz . On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Dov Sadan wrote: Hi, Thank you all for the wonderful project! From time to time while reading some of t

Re: [Freesurfer] re gcareg ?

2013-06-28 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke
Additional info on GCA: https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GcaFormat On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Bruce Fischl wrote: GCA = gaussian classifier array (a spatially varying set of Gaussians). I don't see ismri/no. on the page, but maybe you mean the mri directory? On Fri, 28 Jun 2013,

Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problem

2013-06-28 Thread Xiangzhen Kong
Do you mean the threshold? min=2.0 max=5.0 Thanks! 【小孔成像】http://www.conxz.net From: Bruce Fischl Date: 2013-06-28 20:57 To: Xiangzhen Kong CC: freesurfer Subject: Re: Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problem sorry, I didn't notice that. What were your min and max set to? On Fri, 28 Jun 201

Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problem

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
can you resend the image? You don't have the "invert" button clicked, do you? On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Xiangzhen Kong wrote: Do you mean the threshold? min=2.0 max=5.0     Thanks!   【小孔成像】http://www.conxz.net   From: Br

[Freesurfer] mri_label2vol problem

2013-06-28 Thread LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF
Hi i run mri_label2annot to get individual annot files for all labels, then i run mri_label2vol to get nifti volumes of my labels using the following command :   mri_label2vol --annot  lh.G_and_S_cingul-Ant.annot --temp SUBJ_DIR/ctr2/mri/brain.mgz --subject ctr2 --hemi lh --identity --

Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problem

2013-06-28 Thread Xiangzhen Kong
The image is attached. The following cmd is all I did. tksurfer fsaverage lh inflated -overlay ./fwhm10lh/c1.contrast/sig.mgh And I did not click any button. I think the image is likely just a mirror image, but I failed to find a "invert" button. Where is the "invert" button? Best! Xiangzhen

Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problem

2013-06-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Xiangzhen, that is something I have never seen before. I don't think it is a problem with freesurfer, and there is no button that will fix it. I think it must be something in your environment. What are the details of your platform? doug On 06/28/2013 10:18 AM, Xiangzhen Kong wrote: > The

Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problem

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
it's on the configure overlay window, but it wouldn't cause what you are showing. I didn't notice this before but your entire color scale bar (including the text!) is mirror imaged. This is very strange, and probably explains why it looks like an rh. Can you give us the details of your environ

Re: [Freesurfer] longitudinal analyses for one group

2013-06-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Sandra, you cannot do the longitudinal statistical analysis in QDEC. You will have to use mri_glmfit. Look at the FSGD examples on the wiki. doug On 06/28/2013 03:28 AM, Sandra Preissler wrote: > Dear freesurfer experts, > > we want to do longitudinal analyses for two different time points

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol problem

2013-06-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
How does the annot look on the surface (ie, intksurfer)? What is the full terminal output of mri_label2vol? On 06/28/2013 10:19 AM, LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF wrote: > Hi > i run mri_label2annot to get individual annot files for all > labels, then i run mri_label2vol to get nifti volumes of my labe

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Jonathan so you lose that entire gyrus? What are the intensity values of the wm in the brain.mgz in that region? And it's not present in the wm.mgz either? That means it's a segmentation problem not a topology one (which is what I would have guessed) Bruce On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Jonathan Ho

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Reuter
Hi Jonathan, is this in cross sectional processing or in longitudinal? One thing I notice is significant motion artifacts (ringing), which seem to lead to underestimation of WM, also you could fine tune the skull strip. Best, Martin On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Holt wrote: > Hi all

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Jonathan Holt
Martin, this is longitudinal processing, would you recommend a more aggressive or less aggressive skull strip? Bruce, I've not seen this issue on more than a handful of subjects. They're ALS, but I dont think that is the cause behind this. I'm unfamiliar with bias fields, but it's more likely

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
oh, if it's that few then yes, but that wasn't what it looked like in the image you sent On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote: Martin, this is longitudinal processing, would you recommend a more aggressive or less aggressive skull strip? Bruce, I've not seen this issue on more than a hand

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Reuter
Yes, but do these errors show up in the cross sectional data, in the base or in the longitudinal data (or all?)? Does it look good in the base? I'd suggest more skull strip where the pail grabs dura. On Jun 28, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Holt wrote: > Martin, > > this is longitudinal proce

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Jonathan Holt
We have 4 time points for that subject and it's an issue in all 4, to a lesser degree in one of them, but still an issue. Same area, same hemisphere, every time. Perhaps it is pathology based, I am not entirely sure. On Jun 28, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Martin Reuter wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > is th

[Freesurfer] (no subject)

2013-06-28 Thread LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF
excuse me but i don't understand what you mean by "terminal of mri_label2volume" Thank you for help ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail i

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Reuter
So you are not processing this with the longitudinal stream? You are just running each image independently through freesurfer and look at the results? Is there motion in all the 4 time points in this subject or only in the one image that you send? With motion artifacts, surfaces are not very rel

Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2013-06-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
The terminal output, ie, what gets printed to the screen after your run the program. doug ps. Please remember to include all previous correspondence in your email. On 06/28/2013 11:38 AM, LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF wrote: > excuse me but i don't understand what you mean by "terminal of > mri_label2volum

[Freesurfer] mri_label2vol problem

2013-06-28 Thread LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF
excuse me but i don't understand what you mean by "terminal of mri_label2vol" Thank you for help ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is i

Re: [Freesurfer] longitudinal analyses for one group

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Reuter
Am not too familiar with QDEC, but I though you can do a simple analysis with one group testing where a measure (e.g. thickness, curvature) is different from zero? If so you can do the same here, but instead of thickness you can use the thickness difference or the thickness percent change ( one

[Freesurfer] Tr : (no subject)

2013-06-28 Thread LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF
of thank you, the program ended without any problem and with no terminal - Mail transféré - De : Douglas N Greve À : freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Envoyé le : Vendredi 28 juin 2013 17h41 Objet : Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject) The terminal output, ie, what gets printed to the screen a

Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problem

2013-06-28 Thread Xiangzhen Kong
The system is CentOS release 6.3. And the package of freesufer is freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0. I wonder whether the version mismatch(centos4 vs.centos6) causes this strange problem. I think I have to check this. (As I remember, tksurfer of this version works well in centos5

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol problem

2013-06-28 Thread LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF
here is the command and it's terminal : mri_label2vol --annot G_and_S_cingul-Ant.annot --temp /home/mlaouche/makh_free/ctr2/mri/brain.mgz --subject ctr2 --hemi lh --identity --fillthresh 0 --o /home/mlaouche/G_and_S_cingul-Ant.nii.gz --proj frac 0 1 .1  Number of labels: 0 Annot File:  G_an

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
my guess is it that it is, as for whatever reason temporal WM seems to darken first in an array of disorders. I would start with a couple of control points cheers Bruce On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote: We have 4 time points for that subject and it's an issue in all 4, to a lesser

[Freesurfer] Order of Edits + Intensity Normalization

2013-06-28 Thread Peter Boulos
Hello, I have a fairly basic question regarding the order in which I should perform the edits. After running the full recon on all of my subjects I have now completed the Talairach edits and the skull strip edits on my subjects. At this point I am attempting to seek out help in terms of performing

[Freesurfer] T1-weighted anatomical

2013-06-28 Thread ye tian
Dear freesurfers, My data seems not to be T1-weighted by look ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ZFGvGvHVc). Would you please help me further identify by reading the following experimental description? Images were acquired with blood-oxygen level dependent (BOLD) imaging on a 3 T Siemens Trio Sca

Re: [Freesurfer] T1-weighted anatomical

2013-06-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
The MPRAGE is T1 weighted. It is probably series #1. doug On 06/28/2013 01:16 PM, ye tian wrote: > Dear freesurfers, > > My data seems not to be T1-weighted by look > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ZFGvGvHVc). Would you please help me > further identify by reading the following experimen

Re: [Freesurfer] T1-weighted anatomical

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
The MPRAGE is what you want Bruce On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, ye tian wrote: Dear freesurfers, My data seems not to be T1-weighted by look (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ZFGvGvHVc). Would you please help me further identify by reading the following experimental description? Images were acquired wi

Re: [Freesurfer] T1-weighted anatomical

2013-06-28 Thread ye tian
Dear Bruce and Greve, Thank you very much. But I only have 3 images of MPRAGE though. recon-all -s subject_directory -i /Path_to_MPRAGE finishes without error, but gives two warnings of "input volume axes are not orthogonal" recon-all -s subject_directory -autorecon1 exists "with ERRORS" almost

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol problem

2013-06-28 Thread LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF
excuse me Doug. i gathered previous correspondences (i wrote your replies are in bold) :   june, 28 at 16:41

Re: [Freesurfer] T1-weighted anatomical

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Ye there's no way a 5 minute mprage would have only 3 slices. Or any mprage really, since they are always 3D. You need to find the rest of the slices (there are probably more than 128 of them) Bruce On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, ye tian wrote: Dear Bruce and Greve, Thank you very much. But I onl

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-06-28 Thread Emily Boeke
Any thoughts on why this file turned out this way? Thanks! Emily On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Emily Boeke wrote: > Sure, here it is: > > # Cluster Growing Summary (mri_volcluster) > # $Id: mri_volcluster.c,v 1.38.2.3 2009/01/16 02:26:36 greve Exp $ > # cwd > /autofs/cluster/maury/users/gcoombs

Re: [Freesurfer] re gcareg ?

2013-06-28 Thread Dov Sadan
Dear Bruce, Thanks for the quick reply! *What "nu" does stand for ? * Assaf On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote: > oh, it saves takes the volume nu.mgz in the directory > $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/mri as input > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Dov Sadan wrote: > > i meant mri/nu.mgz .

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-06-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Emily, what is your mri_glmfit-sim command line? doug On 06/28/2013 02:40 PM, Emily Boeke wrote: > Any thoughts on why this file turned out this way? > > Thanks! > Emily > > On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Emily Boeke wrote: > >> Sure, here it is: >> >> # Cluster Growing Summary (mri_volcluster)

Re: [Freesurfer] Differences on baseline volumes within subject cross-sectional vs longitudinal processing

2013-06-28 Thread Dov Sadan
It would be very interesting to know if this issue also happed in 5.3. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Koolschijn, Cédric < p.c.m.p.koolsch...@uva.nl> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > Unfortunately it is not a single subject, it happens to many. > If I run FS 5.3, I also have to rerun the cross-sectio

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Jonathan Holt
Martin, I hate to be noobish, but can you elaborate on the longitudinal stream? It may be that I'm doing entirely too much work. jon On Jun 28, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Martin Reuter wrote: > So you are not processing this with the longitudinal stream? You are just > running each image independently

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface consistently misplaced

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Reuter
Hi Jon, The longitudinal stream in freesurfer is designed to reduce variability in situations where you have several scans from the same subject. The information, that it is the same subject, is valuable and by initializing many steps in recon-all with common data we can increase reliability of