RE: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Jenni Pacheco
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:56 PM To: Derin Cobia Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface I see. 1x1x1 with standard coils is pretty noisy at 1.5T. That's why we used to use 1.3x1.3x1 instead,

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Bruce Fischl
I see. 1x1x1 with standard coils is pretty noisy at 1.5T. That's why we used to use 1.3x1.3x1 instead, although now we do 1mm is at 3T with a 12 or 32 channel. Sorry, it's hard to describe what to fix since it depends on exactly what happened. You have to find what string of wm voxels in the wm

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Derin Cobia
Thanks Nick. I am familiar with those pages, but none of those defects are apparent in this subject (e.g., no misclassifications, lesions, or failure to have the ventricles filled). The surface just appears to jump from one section to another over blank space (or over gm in the brainmask.mgz volu

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Derin Cobia
What should I erase? Sorry, I did mean to say I saw the surface errors overlaid on the volume, but couldn't discern any in the wm.mgz alone. It's 3D FLASH on a Vision 1.5T, TR/TE= 20/5.4 ms, flip=30 deg, 1 acquisition, 1x1x1 mm^3 voxels. Nothing fancy, maybe that's the problem... -Derin > it l

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Nick Schmansky
Derin, The tutorial pages showing which defects to look for and how to fix them start here: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/TroubleshootingData this includes white matter edits: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/WhiteMatterEdits Nick On Fri, 2007-04-13

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Bruce Fischl
it looks like there is an (incorrect) connection in the wm.mgz from the temporal lobe across the insula. The data also looks really noisy - what is the acquisition? You'll need to erase some stuff form the wm.mgz I think. On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Derin Cobia wrote: Here is a pic of the inflated.

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Bruce Fischl
look at the ?h.inflated.nofix to see what is causing the defect, and correct the wm.mgz manually to remove it. Jenni: can you point Derin at the appropriate wiki page? thanks, Bruce On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Derin Cobia wrote: The ?h.orig.nofix looks ok, meaning it follows the white-gray boundar

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Derin Cobia
The ?h.orig.nofix looks ok, meaning it follows the white-gray boundary appropriately. What should I try next? -Derin > this is probably a topology fixing problem. Look at the ?h.orig.nofix and > see how it is > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Derin Cobia wrote: > >> Did you mean wm.mgz? It looks fine. Th

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Bruce Fischl
this is probably a topology fixing problem. Look at the ?h.orig.nofix and see how it is On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Derin Cobia wrote: Did you mean wm.mgz? It looks fine. The orig surface is not good either. Here's a pic. -Derin Hi Derin, What does the orig surface look like? and the wm? Are

Re: [Freesurfer] bad white surface

2007-04-13 Thread Jenni Pacheco
Hi Derin, What does the orig surface look like? and the wm? Are those correct? Jenni On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Derin Cobia wrote: I have two subjects where the white surface does not follow the gray-white gradient (see attached pic for example). Is there any way to fix this? I'm assuming it has