Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-15 Thread Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user
Hi Jon, Very intriguing. What makes you so certain it's a HPA as opposed to just reducing the disk capacity? My understanding was that HPA areas were used for internal drive housekeeping, or perhaps for manufacturer diagnostics, but since by definition the host can't see it (otherwise it wouldn'

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-15 Thread Jon Brase
On 3/13/21 5:42 AM, Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user wrote: As I said before, I suspect what's happening is that the adapter is detecting something that the BIOS is doing while trying to figure out the capacity of the disk, and "helpfully" setting up an HPA on the drive (and doing so so aggressivel

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-13 Thread Jon Brase
On 3/12/21 2:59 PM, Eric Auer wrote: Hi Jon, actually I do not expect "drivers" like OnTrack, Ez Drive etc. to mess with host protected areas. It's not OnTrack that I think is messing with the HPA, it's the SATA <-> IDE adapter. Because when I boot from the OnTrack installation floppy, I fin

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-13 Thread Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user
> As I said before, I suspect what's happening is that the adapter > is detecting something that the BIOS is doing while trying to figure > out the capacity of the disk, and "helpfully" setting up an HPA on > the drive (and doing so so aggressively that all but a thousandth of > the capacity of the

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-13 Thread Jon Brase
Mar 12, 2021 7:30:03 PM Liam Proven : >Caveat: you might find that it only has enough tag RAM in its L2 cache to >cache 64MB of RAM. >This was quite common in early Pentium boxes. Finding tag RAM these days is... >unlikely, I suspect. I'm not holding my breath about finding RAM of any kind for

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-12 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 20:56, Jon Brase wrote: > > As far as I can tell, OnTrack partitions the disk as part of installing its > translation scheme. Yup, I think so. Haven't used it this century, TBH. > So I have an existing disk, and took an image of each partition on it with > partimage(1).

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-12 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jon, actually I do not expect "drivers" like OnTrack, Ez Drive etc. to mess with host protected areas. They just redirect attempts to access the disk by BIOS to their own code, which modifies the BIOS call parameters. Which is why OS which access disks without using the BIOS have to be config

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-12 Thread Jon Brase
Drat, sent my reply to Dennis only (again... :-/); resending to the whole list. On 3/10/21 5:31 PM, dmccunney wrote: I can't agree. We are not in the single-user, single tasking DOS days when one thing was going on at a time. At any moment, there are a number of things going on in a current co

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-12 Thread Jon Brase
On 3/11/21 4:37 AM, Liam Proven wrote: Also, IIUC, you are trying to access _existing_ partitions? No, I do not think a disk manager will help you there. Disk managers bypass the BIOS restrictions by remapping or translating disks' real values, but they do not just fix the problem. Once you have

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-11 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:48 PM Felix Miata wrote: > dmccunney composed on 2021-03-11 17:43 (UTC-0500): > > > The RAM here is all DDR4, same speed, and the only difference is one > > stick is 8GB. (I may add another 8GB sick at some point, but it won't > > be soon.) > > > When I said I *saw* no p

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-11 Thread Felix Miata
dmccunney composed on 2021-03-11 17:43 (UTC-0500): > The RAM here is all DDR4, same speed, and the only difference is one > stick is 8GB. (I may add another 8GB sick at some point, but it won't > be soon.) > When I said I *saw* no performance difference I meant exactly that. > I have a simple a

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-11 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 5:05 PM Felix Miata wrote: > dmccunney composed on 2021-03-11 09:51 (UTC-0500): > > >> IME when RAM is not used in matched pairs in correct slots in a dual > >> channel > >> board, RAM speed (memtest86) is cut by nearly half. Did you test RAM speed > >> before > >> and af

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-11 Thread Felix Miata
dmccunney composed on 2021-03-11 09:51 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Odds are that 32GB capable board features dual channel RAM. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-channel_memory_architecture > Possible. >> IME when RAM is not used in matched pairs in correct slots in a dual channel >

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 5:31 PM Felix Miata wrote: > dmccunney composed on 2021-03-10 16:56 (UTC-0500): > > >> dmccunney composed on 2021-03-09 17:35 (UTC-0500): > > >>> ...It has 20GB RAM > > >> What is that, a pair of 2GB and a pair of 8GB? > > > Nope. It has four DRAM slots, and came with 16GB

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-11 Thread Liam Proven
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 17:51, dmccunney wrote: > > I had a Unix machine at home before I got the XT clone. I was Tech > Support Manager for a small Unix systems house that resold AT&T kit > when AT&T was in the computer business, and an AT&T 3B1 joined the > family. [...] I have heard of the 3B1

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-11 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 00:32, dmccunney wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 5:07 PM Jon Brase wrote: > > On 3/9/21 4:35 PM, dmccunney wrote: > > > As a general rule, consumer machines are I/O bound, not compute bound. > > > The CPU spends most of its time in an idle loop waiting for stuff to > > >

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-11 Thread Liam Proven
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 22:37, Jon Brase wrote: > Unfortunately, it's not working. OnTrack sees the same ultra-small capacity > for the drive as the BIOS and Linux see on that machine. It picks up the > other 40 GB 2.5" PATA drive, but the SSD + Adapter can't be extended from > what the BIOS se

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-10 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 5:07 PM Jon Brase wrote: > On 3/9/21 4:35 PM, dmccunney wrote: > > As a general rule, consumer machines are I/O bound, not compute bound. > > The CPU spends most of its time in an idle loop waiting for stuff to > > be read from/written to disk. > > Actually, as a general ru

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-10 Thread Felix Miata
dmccunney composed on 2021-03-10 16:56 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> dmccunney composed on 2021-03-09 17:35 (UTC-0500): >>> ...It has 20GB RAM >> What is that, a pair of 2GB and a pair of 8GB? > Nope. It has four DRAM slots, and came with 16GB as four 4GB sticks > in those slots. I rep

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-10 Thread Jon Brase
On 3/9/21 4:35 PM, dmccunney wrote: As a general rule, consumer machines are I/O bound, not compute bound. The CPU spends most of its time in an idle loop waiting for stuff to be read from/written to disk. Actually, as a general rule, on a consumer machine, both the CPU and the disk spend mo

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-10 Thread Eric Auer
Hi everybody, my impression of "evolution is faith, not science" is that it is a bit like "my leg is not broken until I believe it" but actually I rarely read signatures at all, so I have not even NOTICED Felix' statement until Tom complained about it. Sure, free speech could let you say almost

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-10 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 3:00 PM Felix Miata wrote: > dmccunney composed on 2021-03-09 17:35 (UTC-0500): > > > The current desktop uses a quad core Intel i5 CPU and 3.5 ghz, with an > > automatic turbo mode to 3.9 ghz. It has 20GB RAM > What is that, a pair of 2GB and a pair of 8GB? Nope. It has

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-10 Thread Jon Brase
On 3/10/21 10:50 AM, dmccunney wrote: The fascinating bit for me is that the distinction between RAM and disk is steadily blurring. Things like nVME make it possible to have what works like RAM but is non-volatile storage whose content will survive a reboot. We are just scratching the surfac

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-10 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user
I'll step in for a brief moment to answer this in my own way prior to Felix doing so. Sorry, Felix. :) As to why you must be "annoyed" by anyone else's choice of email signature, I would point out the Christo-American concept of free speech. Felix has complete freedom to say whatever he wants w

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-10 Thread Jon Brase
Accidentally responded to Liam instead of the whole list, resending. On 3/9/21 3:40 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 22:28, Jon Brase wrote: On 3/3/21 7:30 AM, Liam Proven wrote: Yes. Use a disk manager. It will install a tiny overlay before the OS boots and that will allow you t

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-10 Thread Alvah Whealton
I'm not annoyed. Al On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:17 PM tom ehlert wrote: > > "Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, > is based on faith, not on science." > > either give us a pointer why you think you must annoy us with that, > or please stop with that (mostly religious) no

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-10 Thread tom ehlert
"Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science." either give us a pointer why you think you must annoy us with that, or please stop with that (mostly religious) nonsense. Tom ___ Freedos-user ma

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

2021-03-10 Thread Felix Miata
dmccunney composed on 2021-03-09 17:35 (UTC-0500): > The current desktop uses a quad core Intel i5 CPU and 3.5 ghz, with an > automatic turbo mode to 3.9 ghz. It has 20GB RAM What is that, a pair of 2GB and a pair of 8GB? -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-10 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:10 AM Liam Proven wrote: > On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 23:37, dmccunney wrote: > > > > On my old XT clone, I had a replacement 10mhz motherboard with a NEC > > v20 CPU. The V20 was compatible with the Intel 8088, but had better > > microcode, for a cheap 5% speedup. It had

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-10 Thread Liam Proven
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 23:37, dmccunney wrote: > > On my old XT clone, I had a replacement 10mhz motherboard with a NEC > v20 CPU. The V20 was compatible with the Intel 8088, but had better > microcode, for a cheap 5% speedup. It had 640K RAM and two Seagate > ST-225 MFM HDs. I got it an AST- 6P

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-09 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 4:41 PM Liam Proven wrote: > Installing a CPU upgrade in an old PC was rarely worth the hassle, but > if you replaced a small hard disk (especially if compressed with > DoubleSpace or something) with a big more modern one, and maxed out > the RAM, the performance improvemen

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-09 Thread Liam Proven
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 22:28, Jon Brase wrote: > > > On 3/3/21 7:30 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > Yes. Use a disk manager. It will install a tiny overlay before the OS > > boots and that will allow you to use arbitrarily-large disks without > > problems. (Probably not with Linux, but with DOS, Win9x,

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-09 Thread Jon Brase
On 3/3/21 7:30 AM, Liam Proven wrote: Yes. Use a disk manager. It will install a tiny overlay before the OS boots and that will allow you to use arbitrarily-large disks without problems. (Probably not with Linux, but with DOS, Win9x, OS/2 and maybe even NT). Actually, it looks like, through k

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-03 Thread Liam Proven
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 13:11, Jon Brase wrote: [...] > when I input a manual drive size, I indeed get the 504 MiB limit (it resets [...] > Any ideas? Yes. Use a disk manager. It will install a tiny overlay before the OS boots and that will allow you to use arbitrarily-large disks without problems

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-03 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jon, sounds as if your BIOS has various issues with large drives indeed :-o Have you tried the usual workaround software which installs a "driver" in the actual MBR and shows the geometry-sanitized rest of the drive as if it were the drive? There even are Linux kernel options to correct for t

[Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

2021-03-03 Thread Jon Brase
Two months later... On 12/22/20 7:11 AM, Eric Auer wrote: (I've rearranged Eric's original posting somewhat because responding to this paragraph makes for a good introduction to where I am now it was originally towards the end of his e-mail) You could get yourself a converter to connect SATA d

[Freedos-user] BIOS with broken UDMA needs DOS disk driver loaded before JEMMEX

2016-01-12 Thread Eric Auer
Dear DOS users, via the BTTR DOS forum and Jack I received the following warning: Some mainboards have a BIOS with faulty UDMA in V86 mode support! This CPU mode is used to run "DOS compatible" tasks in Windows or certain virtual environments such as Dosemu for Linux, but it is (importantly) al

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS

2014-12-14 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/14/2014 4:26 AM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering whether one of the reasons why old computers > fail is that the BIOS gets corrupted over time because it is > stored in rewritable media. > BIOS is for quite a wile in a FlashROM type of memory, which is only

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS

2014-12-14 Thread Felix Miata
Marcos Favero Florence de Barros composed on 2014-12-14 10:26 (UTC-0200): > I was wondering whether one of the reasons why old computers > fail is that the BIOS gets corrupted over time because it is > stored in rewritable media. > Many of the old computers that I'v tried to reuse seem to have >

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS

2014-12-14 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: > I was wondering whether one of the reasons why old computers > fail is that the BIOS gets corrupted over time because it is > stored in rewritable media. It is, but what actually rewrites that media? In general, it's non

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS

2014-12-14 Thread Mateusz Viste
In my (limited) experience, old computers tend to be unuseable because of a leaking onboard battery that corrodes the copper lines on the PCB around it (often that's where the keyboard controller is, which translates as 'non working keyboard'). regards, Mateusz On 12/14/2014 01:26 PM, Marcos

[Freedos-user] BIOS

2014-12-14 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi, I was wondering whether one of the reasons why old computers fail is that the BIOS gets corrupted over time because it is stored in rewritable media. Many of the old computers that I'v tried to reuse seem to have problems in keyboard, floppy and CD operation, which, I believe, are directly re

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update with FreeDOS + grub2 on USB Flash

2013-08-25 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/3612.html This tutorial is from 2006... It describes how to use some Windows tool for making a stick bootable with DOS after providing FreeDOS files to use for that... Still a valid method to do, but does not mean that a specific kernel version h

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update with FreeDOS + grub2 on USB Flash

2013-08-25 Thread Beeblebrox
This tutorial seems to be showing how to do exactly what I am talking about: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/3612.html At the very bottom, the author states: "his gave me the disk geometry and highlighted that there was a 0.2GB FAT device on /dev/sda1 - my pen drive. Then mount /dev/sda

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update with FreeDOS + grub2 on USB Flash

2013-08-25 Thread Beeblebrox
On 8/25/13, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Rugxulo, Zaphod ;-) > > Personally, I would not want to access USB while flashing: In > that sense, using a virtual boot floppy in RAM feels safer, so > my preference would also be GRUB. Note that you can make that > virtual floppy 2.88 MB instead of 1.44 MB, ho

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update with FreeDOS + grub2 on USB Flash

2013-08-24 Thread Beeblebrox
Thanks for the input My reason for using grub (or the boot-loader method) is because I find the concept of having an entire bootable usb of 1Gb used only for booting BIOS utilities and used <1% in capacity rather silly. By using grub, one can fully load the USB as a "rescue disk" with all sorts of

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update with FreeDOS + grub2 on USB Flash

2013-08-24 Thread Rugxulo
Sorry, forgot the URL: http://rufus.akeo.ie/ On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Beeblebrox wrote: >> >> I want to update system BIOS using USB Flash. > > You can instead use an entire bootable USB disk of FreeDOS via RUFUS

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update with FreeDOS + grub2 on USB Flash

2013-08-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Beeblebrox wrote: > > I want to update system BIOS using USB Flash. The USB drive has grub2 > installed, I use it as a rescue drive & I can add menu items however I like. > > When I boot into FreeDOS, only the contents of the mem-loaded image file > (FDOEM.14

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update with FreeDOS + grub2 on USB Flash

2013-08-24 Thread Антон Кочков
Hello! You can try to use flashrom (http://flashrom.org) utility for that. See download link http://ra.openbios.org/~idwer/flashrom/dos - version for DOS Best regards, Anton Kochkov. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Beeblebrox wrote: > I want to update system BIOS using USB Flash. The USB drive

[Freedos-user] BIOS update with FreeDOS + grub2 on USB Flash

2013-08-24 Thread Beeblebrox
I want to update system BIOS using USB Flash. The USB drive has grub2 installed, I use it as a rescue drive & I can add menu items however I like. I am able to boot into FreeDOS from grub2 this way: linux16 (hd0,1)/boot/memdisk raw linux16 (hd0,1)/boot/FDOEM.144 When I boot into FreeDOS, onl

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-02-09 17:53 (GMT-0800) Ralf A. Quint composed: > There was such a limitation in the original/ealy > INT13h BIOS calls, which allowed for maximal 1024 > cylinders (x 16 heads x 63 sectors x 512 > bytes=528482304 bytes = 504MBytes). In reading about the binary sizes such as this, you'll fin

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread john s wolter
nager back in the eighties. >>> bs >>> >>> -- >>> *From:* Marco Achury >>> *To:* sakura kinomoto ; Discussion and general >>> questions about FreeDOS. >>> >>> > >>> *Sent:* Saturday, Febr

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > I do not know baslinux, but you may want to try some > Linux GPARTED boot disk... That lets you graphically > modify partitioning, in some cases even modify in a > way which does not cause content loss. BASIC Linux is old and meant for old

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread TJ Edmister
>> -- >> *From:* Marco Achury >> *To:* sakura kinomoto ; Discussion and general >> questions about FreeDOS. >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 9, 2013 6:59 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd >> >

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 05:33 PM 2/9/2013, john s wolter wrote: BS, Don't forget the FAT-16 limit of 514 or was that 504 MBytes. Â Somehow this issue keeps being asked. Â Maybe we are not doing enough to explain it clearly. There is no FAT-16 limit of 504MBytes. There was such a limitation in the original/ealy

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread john s wolter
eighties. > bs > > -- > *From:* Marco Achury > *To:* sakura kinomoto ; Discussion and general > questions about FreeDOS. > *Sent:* Saturday, February 9, 2013 6:59 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd > &g

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread Bob Schwier
Hey neat.  I used Ontrack Disk Manager back in the eighties. bs From: Marco Achury To: sakura kinomoto ; Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-02-09 16:04 (GMT+0100) Eric Auer composed: > 0f is extended with LBA (like 05 but with LBA) I'm pretty sure no OS on the planet requires extended type 0x0F to use LBA, except Win95b Win98 WinME If you use none of above WinDOS, there's no use in using the non-sta

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Returning to the list... So you have tried: > 1: Different disk managers (SpfDisk, Partition Magic, Power Quest, > Fdisk, Fdisk in BasLinux(it can create partitions on all hdd, > but can not mount it) SPFDISK has this menu option "setup support FAT32" which you can enable. Also, when you edi

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread sakura kinomoto
Thank you, Marco Achury! how can I install ontrack disk manager, without floppy? (my floppy device is broken) (I download it by link http://old-dos.ru/dl.php?id=4602 ) -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread Marco Achury
On DOS this is a normal limitation. There a program "Ontrack Disk Manager" that help you to format big partitions. You can left 1 or 2 partitions for DOS (8 Gb each) and the remaining disk you can use it with another operating system. -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Tel: +58-(212)-6158777

Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 9-2-2013 12:18, sakura kinomoto schreef: > Hi all! > I have a PC 1996 year, and bought a hd > d, Samsung sp0802n, (maybe 2005 year), with 80 gigabites > > But my bios can see only (first) 8 gigabites > I am newbie, so, please, tell me, what software can help? > Thanks for any hint! You might wa

[Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd

2013-02-09 Thread sakura kinomoto
Hi all! I have a PC 1996 year, and bought a hd d, Samsung sp0802n, (maybe 2005 year), with 80 gigabites But my bios can see only (first) 8 gigabites I am newbie, so, please, tell me, what software can help? Thanks for any hint! I love FreeDOS! :) -

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update from CD

2011-03-18 Thread Mike Eriksen
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Gustavo J Mata wrote: > I need to update the BIOS of a computer with Ubuntu Linux installed. I own a > second computer, an iMac running OS X 10.6. > > To the iMac I have  downloaded both the BIOS updater and the  fdfullcd.iso > image.  What I want  to do is create

[Freedos-user] BIOS update from CD

2011-03-18 Thread Gustavo J Mata
I need to update the BIOS of a computer with Ubuntu Linux installed. I own a second computer, an iMac running OS X 10.6. To the iMac I have downloaded both the BIOS updater and the fdfullcd.iso image. What I want to do is create a bootable freedos CD* with the BIOS updater in it.* How do I do

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS services

2008-10-05 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > Amongst the different options you have your favourites (JEMM over > FD-EMM, MKEYB over FD-KEYB, etc) and such. What is dangerous is... Depends. I prefer to say that you can try using X instead of Y and it may work better. It may also work worse! It is more about "trying something else" and

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS services

2008-10-05 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, 2008/9/28 Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi Aitor, Hans, > >> > a 286 or newer processor). If EDIT or KEYB fail on your 80186, try >> > EDIT 0.7d and MKEYB, which should work even on 8086. Or use no >> > keyboard driver at all (if you use US keyboard layout). Let us know >> > if you fin

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS services

2008-10-04 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Aitor, Hans, > > a 286 or newer processor). If EDIT or KEYB fail on your 80186, try > > EDIT 0.7d and MKEYB, which should work even on 8086. Or use no > > keyboard driver at all (if you use US keyboard layout). Let us know > > if you find other programs which do not work on 80186 processors.

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS services

2008-09-28 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, 2008/9/25 Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > a 286 or newer processor). If EDIT or KEYB fail on your 80186, try > EDIT 0.7d and MKEYB, which should work even on 8086. Or use no > keyboard driver at all (if you use US keyboard layout). Let us know > if you find other programs which do not work on 8

[Freedos-user] BIOS services

2008-09-25 Thread Hans
Hi Eric, You replied some time ago to a user that asked which BIOS services are required to support FreeDOS, could you (or anybody else) please list those services again. For some reason the link below is no longer valid. Thanks Hans www.ht-lab.com Hi, the short answer is: YES. You can run Fr

Re: [Freedos-user] bios updating

2008-09-25 Thread tomasz orzechowski
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Re: [Freedos-user] bios updating

2008-09-24 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > Hi. I want to flash new bios to my motherboard. > Is it safe to use freedos instead of msdos for > bios flashing purposes? Are there any problems with this? Basic answer: The risk is similar in both cases. Avoid emm386 / jemm386 / jemmex / USB drivers, try to boot from something simple (f

Re: [Freedos-user] bios updating

2008-09-24 Thread Florian Xaver
Hi Tomasz, I didn't have a problem. Bye Flo El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 13:18 +0200, tomasz orzechowski escribió: > Hi. I want to flash new bios to my motherboard. Is it safe to use > freedos instead of msdos for bios flashing purposes? Are there any > problems with this? > --

[Freedos-user] bios updating

2008-09-24 Thread tomasz orzechowski
Hi. I want to flash new bios to my motherboard. Is it safe to use freedos instead of msdos for bios flashing purposes? Are there any problems with this? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's chall

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-08-01 Thread Gerry Hickman
Hi Michael, My main point was that the FDISK bug may have been _triggered_ by EMM386 with VDS, and that if he hadn't been running EMM386 his FDISK tests would not have caused a bad partition table. You were saying this: Oh good grief. EMM386 doesn't have the code or capability to mess with

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-31 Thread Michael Devore
At 01:08 AM 7/31/2005 +0100, Gerry Hickman wrote: Oh good grief. EMM386 doesn't have the code or capability to mess with disk partitions. Period. But if drive geometry is being misreported or misunderstood under EMM386 with VDS (which appears to be the case), then my guess is that it would

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread Johnson Lam
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:43:04 +0100, you wrote: Hi Gerry, >Old OSs, including DOS, Win3.xx and NT, were not aware of this extension >and therefore always need an overlay program to use large hard drives . That means Win98 FDISK ignore the "INT13 extension". Thanks for the information. Rgds,

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread Gerry Hickman
Hi Michael, Can you clarify; when your partition table became damaged, were you running EMM386 at the time, and have you tried it without? Oh good grief. EMM386 doesn't have the code or capability to mess with disk partitions. Period. But if drive geometry is being misreported or misunder

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread Michael Devore
At 08:23 PM 7/30/2005 +0100, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ah, yes, ... :-) Try emm386 without the VDS argument and under no circumstances run FreeDOS FDISK unless you want to risk an erased partition table. Can you clarify; when your partition table became damaged, were you running EMM386 at the t

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread Gerry Hickman
Ah, yes, ... :-) Try emm386 without the VDS argument and under no circumstances run FreeDOS FDISK unless you want to risk an erased partition table. OK I ran the tests again, after taking out VDS everything is working normally, FDISK /INFO reports the correct partition sizes and luckily my

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread kd4d
Hi Gerry: Yes, I was running emm386. However, FDISK erased my (and at least one other) partition table without any prompt or request at all when only requested to examine the table. It's too risky to run the program at all until that bug is addressed (IMHO). I believe there is a development ver

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread Gerry Hickman
Hi Mark Ah, yes, ... :-) Try emm386 without the VDS argument and under no circumstances run FreeDOS FDISK unless you want to risk an erased partition table. Can you clarify; when your partition table became damaged, were you running EMM386 at the time, and have you tried it without? Maybe

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread kd4d
Hi Gerry: Ah, yes, ... :-) Try emm386 without the VDS argument and under no circumstances run FreeDOS FDISK unless you want to risk an erased partition table. Thanks for reporting this. Let us know what happens without the VDS argument to EMM386! Mark > Hi, > > I tried some rough tests t

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread Gerry Hickman
Gerry Hickman wrote: In an eariler post I said I'd seen drive sizes reported as 8Gb with SCSI when the drives are actually much bigger. I thought it was related to not using a SCSI driver and BIOS (INT13) reporting wrong size, and Eric said it wasn't. I think Eric is right, but my BIOS has bee

[Freedos-user] BIOS, SCSI, 8Gb and TUNS

2005-07-30 Thread Gerry Hickman
Hi, I tried some rough tests today with BIOS, SCSI and TUNS. Here's are some results. In an eariler post I said I'd seen drive sizes reported as 8Gb with SCSI when the drives are actually much bigger. I thought it was related to not using a SCSI driver and BIOS (INT13) reporting wrong size,

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update FreeDOS enabled ISO

2004-06-23 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Mihai Rusu wrote: Hi I want to automate this process, ie to prepare some scripts to quickly setup a floppy or a CD, bootable (with FreeDOS) and on which I also copy the BIOS upgrade files which I need at that point. Has anyone did this ? Any problems of using FreeDOS with BIOS flashing software

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS update FreeDOS enabled ISO

2004-06-23 Thread Johnson Lam
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:32:06 +0300 (EEST), you wrote: Hi, Make sure you got exactly same kind of hardware, otherwise you'll destroy the BIOS and fail to recover. >Has anyone did this ? Any problems of using FreeDOS with BIOS flashing >software ? Anyone has some hints ? (like how to get only the

[Freedos-user] BIOS update FreeDOS enabled ISO

2004-06-23 Thread Mihai Rusu
Hi I recently had to upgrade quite some number of systems with latest BIOS versions (to support latest CPU models, RAM speeds, fix annoying bugs etc). Some systems have floppy and CDROM, some just one of those. Usually the vendor requires a single method, floppy or CDROM (most require floppy).