On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 07:56:09PM +0200, Christian Walther wrote:
> 2011/3/29 Nikola Pavlović :
> > As far as eye candy goes, I assure you KDE Plasma bells and whistles
> > (compositing etc.) work just fine even on a 9 year old Pentium 4 w/ 1GB
> > RAM and an NVidia GeForce 6200. I'm actually ama
> I've been using Opera forever. It as an old and proven browser and it runs
> natively on FreeBSD. You can have the Linux flash plugin attached to it and
> still run the native FreeBSD version. It also supports html5.
I use Conkeror on both desktop and laptop and simply cannot
imagine to go back
I've been using Opera forever. It as an old and proven browser and it runs
natively on FreeBSD. You can have the Linux flash plugin attached to it and
still run the native FreeBSD version. It also supports html5.
--
Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam)
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On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:17 -0700, Charlie Kester wrote:
> On Wed 30 Mar 2011 at 08:10:23 PDT Michal Varga wrote:
> >On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 16:26 +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote:
> >> http://hup.hu/node/94286 ;)
> >>
> >
> >1.
> >$ portinstall -v www/epiphany
> >$ epiphany "http://www.youtube.com/html5
On Wed 30 Mar 2011 at 08:10:23 PDT Michal Varga wrote:
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 16:26 +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote:
http://hup.hu/node/94286 ;)
1.
$ portinstall -v www/epiphany
$ epiphany "http://www.youtube.com/html5";
$ epiphany "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBH1dcHoL6Y";
Firefox4 is now in
on 30/03/2011 18:10 Michal Varga said the following:
> On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 16:26 +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote:
>> http://hup.hu/node/94286 ;)
>>
>
> 1.
> $ portinstall -v www/epiphany
> $ epiphany "http://www.youtube.com/html5";
> $ epiphany "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBH1dcHoL6Y";
>
>
> 2
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 16:26 +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote:
> http://hup.hu/node/94286 ;)
>
1.
$ portinstall -v www/epiphany
$ epiphany "http://www.youtube.com/html5";
$ epiphany "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBH1dcHoL6Y";
2.
$ portinstall -v multimedia/quvi multimedia/mplayer
$ cat ~/bin/stream
http://hup.hu/node/94286 ;)
On 3/30/11, Marko Lerota wrote:
> Doug Barton writes:
>
>>> Are there any good tutorials for using BSD on the desktop?
>>
>> Simple answer, if your only goal is to have a Unix-like desktop,
>> you're better off sticking with Linux. FreeBSD is not really focused
>> on
on 29/03/2011 22:54 Doug Barton said the following:
> For those arguing that FreeBSD is a great desktop OS
I have even a stronger opinion: FreeBSD is the *best* desktop for _me_.
I emphasize again - personally for _me_: for _my_ uses, for _my_ habits, for
_my_
etc. (And for my family's ones too
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:42:30AM +0100, Pete French wrote:
> > I agree with that. I had problems with Flash on AMD64 so sometimes
>
> Am impressed - I didnt realise it was possible at all under amd64! I
> ended up using 'gnash' which doesnt really do the job to be honest,
> but it better than no
Hi,
I read interesting comments about using FreeBSD as your main desktop. Here
are my experience.
I use FreeBSD as my main working environment. I'm a java developer using
openjdk6 with no issues.
Regarding flash, I don't use it and invest that time learning FreeBSD. I
agree with Steve Jobs :)
F
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:15:27 +0200, Marko Lerota
wrote:
> Pete French writes:
>
>> Am impressed - I didnt realise it was possible at all under amd64! I
>> ended up using 'gnash' which doesnt really do the job to be honest,
>> but it better than nothing. These days I find the best solution is
>>
Pete French writes:
> Am impressed - I didnt realise it was possible at all under amd64! I
> ended up using 'gnash' which doesnt really do the job to be honest,
> but it better than nothing. These days I find the best solution is
> keeping a copy of Windows inside VirtualBox for those moments
> w
> I agree with that. I had problems with Flash on AMD64 so sometimes
Am impressed - I didnt realise it was possible at all under amd64! I
ended up using 'gnash' which doesnt really do the job to be honest,
but it better than nothing. These days I find the best solution is
keeping a copy of Windows
Doug Barton writes:
>> Are there any good tutorials for using BSD on the desktop?
>
> Simple answer, if your only goal is to have a Unix-like desktop,
> you're better off sticking with Linux. FreeBSD is not really focused
> on desktop use, whereas a lot of the Linux distributions are, and if
> yo
On 03/29/2011 13:20, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Paul Schmehlwrote:
Or just follow the instructions. If people really find that difficult
I'm not sure any OS is going to be the answer long term. If you do
enough computer use you'll have to follow instructions at s
--On March 29, 2011 3:20:48 PM -0500 Adam Vande More
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Paul Schmehl
wrote:
Or just follow the instructions. If people really find that difficult
I'm not sure any OS is going to be the answer long term. If you do
enough computer use you'll have to foll
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> Or just follow the instructions. If people really find that difficult
>> I'm not sure any OS is going to be the answer long term. If you do
>> enough computer use you'll have to follow instructions at some point.
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On March 29, 2011 1:32:23 AM -0400 Jason Hsu
> wrote:
>
>
...
>
>> 4. What are the Linux Mint and Puppy Linux of the BSD universe? I
>> consider these two distros to set the standard in the Linux universe,
>> because they're so user-f
--On March 29, 2011 2:37:07 PM -0500 Adam Vande More
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Paul Schmehl
wrote:
Go to Youtube and see if you can watch a video. Ubuntu does it out of
the box. FreeBSD only does it after you tweak and tweak and tweak and
google and google and google.
Or j
On 03/29/2011 12:32, Paul Schmehl wrote:
That's how silly your argument is. You can't do it, because FreeBSD
does not have a system-installed desktop. Even Xorg is a port.
It is in linux too, it's just that the various distros who focus on the
desktop have bundled it into the default install
Quoth Stephen Montgomery-Smith on Tuesday, 29 March 2011:
> 3. Whether or not the use wants the ability to install a proprietary
> closed exploit-ridden hellhole depends upon what they want. If they
> want to go to movie web sites and view the latest trailers complete with
> all the flashy add
On 03/29/2011 12:37, Adam Vande More wrote:
Java is a different matter. Handbook should be updated to use the iced tea
plugin since the other java plugin doesn't work on new FF plus it's other
deficiencies.
It's been update for some time now. :)
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/de
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> Go to Youtube and see if you can watch a video. Ubuntu does it out of the
> box. FreeBSD only does it after you tweak and tweak and tweak and google
> and google and google.
Or just follow the instructions. If people really find that diff
Michal Varga wrote:
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:51 -0700, Matthew Fleming wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michal Varga wrote:
Here too. How is "desktop support" on FreeBSD lacking?
I realize a desktop means many things to many people, but the biggest
thing holding me b
--On March 29, 2011 8:20:04 PM +0200 Michal Varga
wrote:
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:51 -0700, Matthew Fleming wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michal Varga
wrote:
> Here too. How is "desktop support" on FreeBSD lacking?
I realize a desktop means many things to many people, but the big
Quoth Adam Vande More on Tuesday, 29 March 2011:
>
> I think a entry on people who are obsessed with collecting OS's warrants an
> entry in the DSM IV.
>
Well, I probably warrant my own entry in the DSM IV (just ask my wife).
--
.o. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com
..o
--On March 29, 2011 7:27:26 PM +0200 Michal Varga
wrote:
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 11:43 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
FreeBSD is first and foremost a server OS.
Could you support your claim with some examples, please?
Seriously? Visit Netcraft.
Desktop support is lacking when compared to
Quoth Andriy Gapon on Tuesday, 29 March 2011:
> on 29/03/2011 19:43 Paul Schmehl said the following:
> > FreeBSD is first and foremost a server OS. Desktop support is lacking when
> > compared to the other major OSes (Windows, Mac and Linux). You can make it
> > work,
> > if you want to, but tha
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> Strange. I followed some instructions that I googled up and it was like
> "install
> these two ports and run that command" and everything worked. And still
> does :)
>
> (I think that it was www/linux-f10-flashplugin10, www/nspluginwrapper
On 29 March 2011 14:53, Michal Varga wrote:
> Hi,
>
[Port building, mplayer/mencoder example w/o options]
Packages are build with the default ports options. These turn out to
be suitable for me, so I guess they are suitable for others, as well.
I never said that building from source is pointless -
,--- Michal (Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:20:04 +0200) *
| There is also no Microsoft Windows Management Console for FreeBSD, does
| it make FreeBSD lacking, insufficient, or broken in some specific server
| area?
It's time to switch this char elsewhere, to -help, perhaps, no?
-- Alex -- alex-goncha..
on 29/03/2011 20:51 Matthew Fleming said the following:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michal Varga wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 11:43 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>>> Desktop support is lacking when compared to the other major OSes
>>> (Windows, Mac and Linux).
>>
>> Here too. How is "deskt
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:51 -0700, Matthew Fleming wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michal Varga wrote:
> > Here too. How is "desktop support" on FreeBSD lacking?
>
> I realize a desktop means many things to many people, but the biggest
> thing holding me back from using FreeBSD on a de
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michal Varga wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 11:43 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>> Desktop support is lacking when compared to the other major OSes
>> (Windows, Mac and Linux).
>
> Here too. How is "desktop support" on FreeBSD lacking?
I realize a desktop means many
2011/3/29 Nikola Pavlović :
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Christian Walther wrote:
[...]
> As others have pointed out NVidia drivers for FreeBSD have been
> available for some time, and they work just fine.
Yes, thanks for pointing that out, everybody. :)
> As far as eye candy goes,
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Christian Walther wrote:
>
> On the downside there seem to be some work needing to be done IRT
> kernel based 3D acceleration. I don't know the current status, but the
> last I heard was that NVidias drivers can't be ported to FreeBSD
> because the kernel
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 11:43 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> FreeBSD is first and foremost a server OS.
Could you support your claim with some examples, please?
> Desktop support is lacking when compared to the other major OSes
> (Windows, Mac and Linux).
Here too. How is "desktop support" on Free
on 29/03/2011 19:43 Paul Schmehl said the following:
> FreeBSD is first and foremost a server OS. Desktop support is lacking when
> compared to the other major OSes (Windows, Mac and Linux). You can make it
> work,
> if you want to, but that's not what its primary function is.
Chiming in on a r
--On March 29, 2011 1:32:23 AM -0400 Jason Hsu
wrote:
Some questions:
1. Is it possible to install KDE, GNOME, or other DE from the FreeBSD CD
in a reasonable amount of time? KDE and GNOME are huge programs, and
having to download them would take too long.
I wouldn't recommend installing
--On March 29, 2011 8:25:11 AM -0500 Stephen Montgomery-Smith
wrote:
But the desktop experience of Ubuntu is so easy, and it works so much
"out of the box" that I am switching to Ubuntu for a lot of my everyday
desktop needs.
Not to belabor the point, but this is precisely why I switched from
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:32:23 -0400
Jason Hsu wrote:
> I've been trying to switch from Linux to BSD for my everyday computing
> (email, word processing, spreadsheets, etc.), but I couldn't get things to
> work properly.
> I've been so spoiled by the quickness and user-friendliness of antiX/Swi
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:59:24 am Christian Walther wrote:
> On the downside there seem to be some work needing to be done IRT
> kernel based 3D acceleration. I don't know the current status, but the
> last I heard was that NVidias drivers can't be ported to FreeBSD
> because the kernel lacks s
Jason Hsu wrote:
I've been trying to switch from Linux to BSD for my everyday computing (email,
word processing, spreadsheets, etc.), but I couldn't get things to work
properly. I've been so spoiled by the quickness and user-friendliness of
antiX/Swift Linux and Puppy Linux for so long. I ha
Hi,
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 12:59 +0200, Christian Walther wrote:
> What's the benefit of building everything from source? Yes, you can
> configure some of the ports, but in these days you'll end up with
> stuff you don't want to have anyway. I'm a zsh user and have hardly
> any need for bash, excep
Hello Jeremy,
On 29 March 2011 13:36, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Christian Walther wrote:
[ZSH PCRE Support]
Up to now I probably had to need for pcre, since I haven't noticed
that it's not part of the package. ;)
And in case of an emergency I stick to /sb
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Christian Walther wrote:
> What's the benefit of building everything from source? Yes, you can
> configure some of the ports, but in these days you'll end up with
> stuff you don't want to have anyway. I'm a zsh user and have hardly
> any need for bash, exc
Hi,
On 29 March 2011 11:33, Michal Varga wrote:
> As with other people that replied before - my opinions reflect my
> opinions that might actually *not* suit your personal needs. But you
> asked.
>
> On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 01:32 -0400, Jason Hsu wrote:
>> Some questions:
>> 1. Is it possible to i
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Jason Hsu wrote:
> I've been trying to switch from Linux to BSD for my everyday computing
> (email, word processing, spreadsheets, etc.), but I couldn't get things to
> work properly. I've been so spoiled by the quickness and user-friendliness
> of antiX/Swift Li
As with other people that replied before - my opinions reflect my
opinions that might actually *not* suit your personal needs. But you
asked.
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 01:32 -0400, Jason Hsu wrote:
> Some questions:
> 1. Is it possible to install KDE, GNOME, or other DE from the FreeBSD
> CD in a re
Hello Jason,
(Highly Opinionated Piece)
> Are there any good tutorials for using BSD on the desktop? I'm having much
> more difficulty finding good information on BSD than was the case for Linux.
> In retrospect, this shouldn't be a surprise given that Linux is relatively
> mainst
ream while
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:32:23 -0400
Jason Hsu wrote:
> I've been trying to switch from Linux to BSD for my everyday
> computing (email, word processing, spreadsheets, etc.), but I
> couldn't get things to work properly.
I'm in the same boat, and will try today again...
> Are there any good tut
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 01:32:23AM -0400, Jason Hsu wrote:
> I've been trying to switch from Linux to BSD for my everyday computing
> (email, word processing, spreadsheets, etc.), but I couldn't get
> things to work properly. I've been so spoiled by the quickness and
> user-friendliness of antiX/S
On 03/28/2011 22:32, Jason Hsu wrote:
I've been trying to switch from Linux to BSD for my everyday computing (email,
word processing, spreadsheets, etc.), but I couldn't get things to work
properly. I've been so spoiled by the quickness and user-friendliness of
antiX/Swift Linux and Puppy Lin
I've been trying to switch from Linux to BSD for my everyday computing (email,
word processing, spreadsheets, etc.), but I couldn't get things to work
properly. I've been so spoiled by the quickness and user-friendliness of
antiX/Swift Linux and Puppy Linux for so long. I have a backlog of stu
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