Re: migrate system disk <- thank you

2010-09-23 Thread Dánielisz László
Thank you everybody for your help! From: Matthias Apitz To: Edward Cc: Dánielisz László ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 8:19:16 AM Subject: Re: migrate system disk El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:37:42AM +0800, Edwar

Re: DHCP problem after upgrade [solved]

2010-09-23 Thread N. Raghavendra
At 2010-09-23T11:17:48+05:30, N. Raghavendra wrote: > I upgraded my system from 7.2-STABLE to 8.1-STABLE, and have done > `mergemaster'. Earlier the system used to get its IP address by > DHCP at boot time without any problem. After the upgrade, it is not > doing so. I have ifconfig_em0="DHCP"

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 09/23/10 06:53, Adam Vande More wrote: As stated before, it's really a personal matter. I like kde4 a lot, ... It's also lighter and faster than KDE3. It's pretty stable too, but not completely so. Strange. After years of KDE3 I tried KDE4 and switched back in half a day. I found it crawl

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:38:03AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli escribió: > On 09/23/10 06:53, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > As stated before, it's really a personal matter. I like kde4 a lot, > > ... > > It's also > > lighter and faster than KDE3. It's pretty stable too, but not c

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:29:38PM -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: > > Hello all. > > In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under > terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved > that way I have never tried any graphical interface. > > I was wondering if you can te

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:36:03AM +0100, Frank Shute escribió: > My belief is that people who are comfortable with Gnome/KDE are people > who are familiar with working in a GUI such as Windows® and haven't > come from the commandline. Totally wrong for me. I come from a UNIX l

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 23 September 2010, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > After years of KDE3 I tried KDE4 and switched back in half a day. > I found it crawling slowly, with continuous crashes, rendering bugs > and missing features... > > Of course, YMMV. That's very similar to my experience too but I'm getting

Re: migrate system disk

2010-09-23 Thread Philipp Lengemann
Am Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:06:13 -0700 (PDT) schrieb Dánielisz László : > Hello, > > I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD > stands as my system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I > migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from the old disk to the new one? > > thank you! > Laszlo

Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-23 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On 22-9-2010 21:35, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 22/09/2010 20:04:25, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way. It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but mos

rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary?

2010-09-23 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
The fbsd manual states in section 24.7 Rebuilding "world": http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html in subsection 24.7.6 Remove /usr/obj *quote* Some files below /usr/obj may have the immutable flag set (see chflags(1) for more information) which must be removed f

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Jud
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:57 -0600, "Warren Block" wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Jorge Biquez wrote: > > > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what > > path to follow? KDE? any other? > > The Handbook covers setting up the three major desktop environments in > ht

Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem

2010-09-23 Thread Reko Turja
I applied the patch as suggested by Reko, but it seemed to make no difference After the patch recompiling and linking at least SASL is needed after buildworld and inatallation of new world. removing libgssapiv2 libs however, solved my cyradm problem will this cause issues into the future fo

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:29:38 -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience > on what path to follow? KDE? any other? For many years now, I am happily using WindowMaker as my main desktop. It can be configured easily and does STAY OUT OF YOUR WA

Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary?

2010-09-23 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've never seen a file under /usr/obj/ with immutable flag set. I think it was a directory called empty/ that couldn't be removed unless the flag was unset. This makes this step neccessary when you rm -rf /usr/obj the object subtree

Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary?

2010-09-23 Thread Arthur Chance
On 09/23/10 15:10, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I've never seen a file under /usr/obj/ with immutable flag set. I think it was a directory called empty/ that couldn't be removed unless the flag was unset. This makes this step neccessary when

Does this look reasonable (y/n)?

2010-09-23 Thread Leon Meßner
Hello, i have quite a common question i think but my google skills didn't bring up anything decent. If you use binary freebsd-update to upgrade between major releases it starts comparing config files at some point. After the manual merges it start's "automerge" and asks you: Does this look reason

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: > Hello all. > > In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under > terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved > that way I have never tried any graphical interface. > > I was wondering if you can tell suggest m

Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary?

2010-09-23 Thread Balázs Mátéffy
Hello! Anton is right, really the handbook says that it MAY contain, so it's not necessary that after every build there will be some files with the immutable flag. OFF: Long long time ago one night when I was playing with jails (to be exact I was building and making work my first jail by hand) I

Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary?

2010-09-23 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 05:17:40PM +0200, Bal?zs M?t?ffy wrote: > > I think maybe in older releases the build process may have used the > immutable flag at build??, but the test machine I tried, started out as > maybe 5.2, and I never had this issue once. *skip* > Anton if you wanna be sure just

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:57:46PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > You don't have to choose one of those, there are lots of varied window > managers, and advocates for each. There's an overview here on fd.o: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops. Many of those are in ports. That's a much s

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Mike Clarke wrote: > When I first tried KDE4 it was much slower than KDE3, have things > improved sufficiently since then for me to think about upgrading? > If you tried on KDE 4.1, 4.2, then yes things have improved a lot. 4.3 was pretty big update in terms of s

which perl?

2010-09-23 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Hi, Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE jail in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default. Should I leave this as is or should I be using 5.12? This is for a home desktop. eco# uname -a FreeBSD eco.config 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 23 September 2010, Adam Vande More wrote: > If you tried on KDE 4.1, 4.2, then yes things have improved a lot. >  4.3 was pretty big update in terms of stability, and 4.4 has been > far more solid than not.  All the base KDE apps seem to work > appropriately, at least the ones I use.  

Re: which perl?

2010-09-23 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi, > > Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE > jail in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default. Should > I leave this as is or should I be using 5.12? > IMHO 5.10 is new enough! Bu

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: >> Hello all. >> >> In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under >> terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved >> that way I have never tried any graphical

Re: which perl?

2010-09-23 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Hi, Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE jail in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default. Should I leave this as is or should I be using 5.12? This is for a home desktop. eco# uname -a Fre

Python 2 and Python 3

2010-09-23 Thread J. Altman
Greetings... uname -a: FreeBSD whisperer.chthonixia.net 8.1-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p1 #0: Mon Sep 20 13:09:28 EDT 2010 r...@whisperer.chthonixia.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WHISPERER amd64 I am interested in installing Python 3 to follow examples in a beginner's programming book. I found

Re: which perl?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Peter Ulrich Kruppa on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE > >jail in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default. > >Should I leave this as is

Linux filesystems accessible from FreeBSD 8-stable?

2010-09-23 Thread Leif Walsh
I can't seem to get a definitive answer on this from the internet, there's a lot of conflicting information. I have some data drives formatted with ext4, which I'd like to access from freebsd, preferably without totally reformatting because I don't have much temp space for copying. Read-only woul

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: > >> Hello all. > >> > >> In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under > >> terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solv

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden >> wrote: >> > Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: >> >> Hello all. >> >> >> >> In all these years I have been working with FreeB

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden > >> wrote: > >> > Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: > >> >> Hello all

amr intermittant failures

2010-09-23 Thread Len Conrad
uname -a FreeBSD mx6 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 dmesg.boot: amr0: mem 0xf80f-0xf80f,0xfe9e-0xfe9f irq 46 at device 14.0 on pci2 amr0: Using 64-bit DMA amr0: [ITHREAD] amr

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
>On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Chip Camden >wrote: >> Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: >> >> I'm not too sure what you're asking "certain window should be moved by >> default to specific workspaces." Since you read the man page I'm >> guessing you're not talking about changing

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread herbert langhans
If you prefer terminal applications you may get happy with blackbox. Its one of the smallest, but fully functional GUIs. And it is still kosher according to Unix standards. Its my favorite, I even prefer it to fluxbox, what is a little fancier. Cheers herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans her

Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary?

2010-09-23 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 04:02, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > The fbsd manual states in section 24.7 Rebuilding "world": > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > > in subsection 24.7.6 Remove /usr/obj > > *quote* > Some files below /usr/obj may have the immutable f

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 22 September 2010 23:29, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell > mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never > tried any graphical interface. > > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > > If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, > lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and > vim-like (among other things ;-). Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotw

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > > > > If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, > > lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and > > vim-like (among other things ;-). > > Why

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Glen Barber
On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >> >> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, >> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and >> vim-like (among other things ;-). > > Why is "written in

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >>> >>> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, >>> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and >>

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 23 September 2010: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >> > >> > If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, >> > lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively main

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > > On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > >>> > >>> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad,

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber wrote: >> > On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >> >>> >> >>> If y