Re: irq status

On 3 Nov, Alexander Anderson wrote: > In mailing.freebsd.hackers, you wrote: > >> > Is their a tool out their or does anyone have a quick bit of code / >> > hack that will "probe" all of the irqs on my box and tell me which >> > ones are used / available?? >> >> No. You can glean some of this

Re: RPC not taking the same service twice: a bug or a security measure?

On 8 Nov, Bill Paul wrote: >> A coworker seems to have found an issue with portmap on FreeBSD. >> Aparently, if you try and register the same service twice, but with >> different protocols (UDP vs TCP), it doesn't work. I'm not entirely sure >> I believe this, and I am digging for more details,

Re: printf()

On 9 Nov, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Zhenhai Duan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001109 21:09] wrote: >> A simple question: >> >> Does the kernel function printf() flushes the output immediately, or it is >> possible some data is buffered somewhere and gets lost without printing >> to the console? like

Re: printf()

On 10 Nov, Mike Smith wrote: >> >> Does the kernel function printf() flushes the output immediately, or it is >> >> possible some data is buffered somewhere and gets lost without printing >> >> to the console? like the corresponding funtion in the c library. >> > >> > It's not buffered afaik. >

Re: printf()

On 10 Nov, Mike Smith wrote: >> >> Is there is way that I could perhaps demonstrate my reasoning, >> such that it might be satisfactory to you? > > No. > Then, should I take it you concede the point? Jessem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: printf()

On 10 Nov, Terry Lambert wrote: >> A simple question: >> >> Does the kernel function printf() flushes the output immediately, or it is >> possible some data is buffered somewhere and gets lost without printing >> to the console? like the corresponding funtion in the c library. > > There is no

Re: printf()

On 10 Nov, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Zhenhai >Duan writes: > : Does the kernel function printf() flushes the output immediately, or it is > : possible some data is buffered somewhere and gets lost without printing > : to the console? like the corresponding funtion in t

Re: "iowait" CPU state

On 15 Nov, Barry Lustig wrote: > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Terry Lambert wrote: >> >> I'm always tempted to set up a company where the main >> engineers have a centralized batch compile server, so as to >> not slow down developement, but requiring that they run no >> better than a 386SX/16 on the

Re: M_ZERO patches.

Can someone email me with a brief explaination of this M_ZERO path? I see it is about something to do with memory (malloc, bcopy, etc.) Thanks Jessem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: M_ZERO patches.

On 4 Dec, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes > : >>Can someone email me with a brief explaination of this M_ZERO path? >>I see it is about something to do with memory (malloc, bcopy, etc.) >> >> Thanks Jessem. > > Si

Re: Fwd: kyxtech: freebsd outsniffed by wintendo !!?!?

On 7 Dec, Dragos Ruiu wrote: > > (Hurm Wintendo outperforming unix???!?? Something's > improper about this, and it ought to be fixed... :-) > Comments? Other OS numbers: more recent > FreeBSD versions? Solaris? Tru64? Optimization > patches? Can those OO MSDN lobotomies actually >

Re: R: [Ethereal-dev] Re: Fwd: kyxtech: freebsd outsniffed by wintendo !!?!?

On 12 Dec, Fulvio Risso wrote: > I do not agree with you. > Partially supported by Ms Research means that we got: > - software > - 1 Dell workstation > > That's it. > I *strongly* suggest to ask someone before opening your mouth. > Your tone strongly suggest your research is less than objective

ssh - are you nuts?!?

Thank you for your attention. Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH. The talk schedule is posted on: http://www.svbug.com/events/ I've already circulated this message to the OpenBSD 'tech' mailing list and the NetBSD 'security' mailing list. Now, I've like to hear from the FreeBSD

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 22 Dec, Chris Costello wrote: > On Friday, December 22, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Thank you for your attention. >> >> Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH. > >If you don't know anything about it, why do you claim it's > evil? > I don't know if I've claimed eithe

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 23 Dec, Dan Langille wrote: > On 23 Dec 2000, at 13:25, David Preece wrote: > >> At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote: >> >> >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter >> >than say telnet. Or what advantages SSH has in general. >> >> Sorry, don't have time to reply to this properly

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 22 Dec, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, David Preece wrote: > >> At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote: >> >> >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter than say >> >telnet. Or what advantages SSH has in general. >> >> Sorry, don't have time to reply to this properly. >>

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 22 Dec, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 3:37 PM -0800 12/22/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Thank you for your attention. >> >>Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH. >>The talk schedule is posted on: >>http://www.svbug.com/events/ >>I've already circulated this message to the OpenB

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

Mr Clark, Could I trouble you to use your comments in my talk? Jessem. On 22 Dec, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > ||_ > | PLEASE DO | | | > | NOT FEED | | THANK | > | THE TROLLS | | Y

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 22 Dec, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 01:25:11PM +1300, David Preece wrote: >> At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote: >> >> >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter >> >than say telnet. Or what advantages SSH has in general. >> >> Sorry, don't have time to reply to

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 24 Dec, Dan Langille wrote: > On 23 Dec 2000, at 2:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On 23 Dec, Dan Langille wrote: >> > On 23 Dec 2000, at 13:25, David Preece wrote: >> > >> >> At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter >> >> >than

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

Your comments noted. thanks Jessem. On 23 Dec, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've already circulated this message to the OpenBSD >> 'tech' mailing list and the NetBSD 'security' mailing >> list. > > Indeed. Please ignore him, he's a troll. >

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

Your comments noted. Jessem. On 23 Dec, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:00:54AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > It is possible. It is not trivial. >> > >> What leads you to believe that it's not trival? > > A functioning brain. > To Unsubscribe: send ma

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 23 Dec, Bengt Richter wrote: > You are clueless as to the effect of your word choices. > Thank you for reading that. > I would beg to differ. > Please note that I am not writing this to flame, but in > an attempt to be helpful ;-) > I appreciate all person with the intent to help. > At 15:

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 23 Dec, Wes Peters wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Thank you for your attention. >> >> Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH. >> The talk schedule is posted on: >> http://www.svbug.com/events/ >> I've already circulated this message to the OpenBSD >> 'tech' mailing lis

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 25 Dec, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:16:51AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human >> > operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tell it >> > explicitly to do insecure things like connect to a

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 25 Dec, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:28:07PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human >> operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tell it >> explicitly to do insecure things like connect to a server which

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 25 Dec, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > : JKH, DG, CORE respond. > > Core does not respond to mail not directed to it. > Posting rules do not allow me to send to more than to groups. Can you recommend a course of action? To Unsubscribe: s

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 25 Dec, Mike Smith wrote: >> > And we, the FreeBSD Project, don't do a thing to help this situation. >> > We change the SSH keys on the freebsd.org machines left and right w/o >> > *ANY* notice to committers that they have been changed. So we've trained >> > our own committers to have sloppy

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 25 Dec, Peter Wemm wrote: > "David O'Brien" wrote: >> And the best we've >> ever done is in the "HEADS UP: New host key for freefall!" thread started >> by Peter Wemm on Tue, 16 May 2000 23:26:33. > > ... which the thread and FUD was a total load of shit, because the original > keys were neve

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 26 Dec, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 09:27:49PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 08:29:01PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> > >> > Umm, are you actually talking about real incidents here, or just >> > spreading FUD? >> >> REAL incidents. Please rememb

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 26 Dec, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:22:59AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: >> If you feel I've given the wrong impression, fine. Just say that, and >> I'll clear up that I'm not saying it is intentionally done if that is >> what people think. But admit to the lack of care

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 26 Dec, Wes Peters wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> On 25 Dec, David O'Brien wrote: >> > On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:28:07PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >> Incorrect..the problems with SSH come down to flaws in the human >> >> operator who ignore the warnings SSH gives them, and tel

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 26 Dec, Mark Murray wrote: >> Which original keys are you talking about? > > SSH public server keys. (Sometimes called "server identities"). > >> Are you saying that the original SSH Public Keys for the servers >> were always sent in the clear, without PGP signature or anything? > > David

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 25 Dec, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 06:34:09PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >> No, in several particulars. "The FreeBSD Project" doesn't change the SSH >> keys on the FreeBSD.org machines. > > Not changed for change sake, but failure to do anything to preserve them. > > >

Thread DIES [Re: ssh - are you nuts?!? ]

On 26 Dec, Mike Smith wrote: >> If it is FUD as you claim, then the call should be made >> by the SO. This would seem to be prudent policy. > > Jesse, Kris *is* the Security Officer. > > Now, please let this thread die. > Mike, You and I don't often agree, but this time is worth noting. I

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

Okay Wes, This is your original message. You state: "This is exactly the sort of problem we need to solve..." In the context of this message I must assume that since the subject is SSH, then you are referring to SSH. If not, there is nothing in the message that would lead me to believe o

Re: Thread DIES [Re: ssh - are you nuts?!? ]

On 28 Dec, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 04:04:36PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Bill Fumerola, who states that security policy >> information is un-available. However, I might >> refer his comment to the Security Officer instead, >> if Bill feels th

Re: Thread DIES [Re: ssh - are you nuts?!? ]

On 29 Dec, Wes Peters wrote: > Bill Fumerola wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 04:04:36PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > Bill Fumerola, who states that security policy >> > information is un-available. However, I might >> > refer his comment to the Security Office

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On 28 Dec, Mark Murray wrote: >> Okay, can you be specific about what you mean by >> "There was a time that we were very lax". > > If there was a change of server identity, then we did not necessarily > announce what the new identity was in a way that people could trust. > > These days, a memb

The Talk: ssh - are you nuts!?!

SSH - are you nuts!?! by Jesus Monroy, Jr. I'm too tired to get this out, but i promised it would be available, so here it is. The Offical Part On Jan. 4, 2001, a talk entitled "ssh - are you nuts!?!" will be given at the SVBUG (S

Re: [Question] CVS and CVS@freebsd

On 7 Jan, Wes Peters wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> [Trimmed] >> Can anyone give me suggestion on implementing this? >> Specifically I'd like to know about tools available, >> concepts that would aid developers and any suggestions >> out-of-scope that would aid developers.

[Q] Transient Core Dumps

Just a quick question. Tonight our DNS server dropped core after several other program misbehaved. Chief amoung then was one of our own. The problems thought seems to be more than one misbehaving programs. Along with DNS the machines runs, LiveCam, our video over the internet solution, NCSA web

Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)

On 1 Jan, Doug Barton wrote: > Gerhard Sittig wrote: >> >> [ ... reminder after two weeks of silence ... ] > > Two weeks of silence is generally enough to let you know that no one is > interested in this modification. If someone was, they'd generally have > said something by now. > >

Re: release with custom kernel

On 4 Jan, Sven Huster wrote: > hi there, > > after asking this in questions for a while, i want to give hackers a try. > > is there a possibility to make a release with a custom kernel? > > i know how to create a release but it contains always the GENERIC kernel. > Have you tried reading th

Re: more than 8 colors in console?

On 4 Jan, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Hi, > > I'm writing a console app, which needs to be quite colorful, and to use > customizable colors. Unfortunately, with ncurses, right after start_color(), > I get a can_change_color() == FALSE. Besides, COLORS is defined to as many > as the Co termcap ca

Re: open PR WRT syslogd vs. serial consoles

On 5 Jan, Brian Reichert wrote: > I'm chasing down a syslogd problem on a 3.4-R box, only to discover > that I'm being bit (still!) by a PR I submitted two years ago: > > > > I'm responsible for a wad of machines hanging off of a terminal se

Re: [Question] CVS and CVS@freebsd

On 7 Jan, Alex Kapranoff wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:16:29PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [Note: I've BCC'd to arch to get advanced implemention suggestions] >> >> Hey everyone OpenCountry.org has asked me to setup >> a CVS repository for them. Their business plan includes >> pa

Re: Clustering FreeBSD

On 16 Jan, Jamie Heckford wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have any details of Open Source, or software included > with FreeBSD that allows the clustering of FreeBSD? > > I have 55 racks sitting here to play with, and want to start doing > some serious work (for me anyway!) with fBSD > > Plz. let