Re: dc driver and underruns (was: Strangeness with 4.0-S)

2000-07-16 Thread Stephen McKay
On Friday, 14th July 2000, "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: >> I suspect an interaction between the ATA driver and VIA chipsets, >> because other than the network, that's all that is operating when I see >> the underruns. And my Celeron with a ZX chipset is immune. > >I've seen them on just about ever

Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-16 Thread Mark Murray
> 5. If you are using CTM to receive the "*,v" files and then using > the "cvs" command to check out your source tree, then I don't know > whether you need to delete your ",v" files and replace them or not. You do need to delete your ,v files in this case (only for the crypto dirs). M -- Mark M

Re: cvs commit: src/bin/mv mv.c

2000-07-16 Thread SADA Kenji
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> sada2000/07/15 07:59:02 PDT >> >> Modified files: >> bin/mv mv.c >> Log: >> To make inherit file flags when mv(1) moves file between directories >> on different file systems. >> >> PR:

missing idea.h, still conflicting defines WITH_IDEA and MAKE_IDEA

2000-07-16 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 08:36:32AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > Building world failed on my machine... (with USA_RESIDENT=NO) > > Does IDEA stuff compiled by default? > I messed this up. Fix coming. Something seems to be wrong with the logic concerning IDEA stuff. I ask because I can't build the

Weird top output

2000-07-16 Thread Dampure, Pierre Y.
With a recently (10:00 BST) cvsup'd and built world / kernel: last pid: 288; load averages: 0.05, 0.04, 0.01up 0+00:03:27 15:53:02 32 processes: 1 running, 31 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Mem: 282M Active, 17M Inact, 20M Wire

HEADS UP, mtree defaults returns back to original

2000-07-16 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
This is possible /usr/src/UPDATING entry: 2716: mtree now NOT follows symlinks by default, old behaviour restored to be compatible with rest of *BSD camp. New -L option added to follow symlinks. This require manual mtree rebuilding before 'make world' --

Will the urio dev make it to -stable?

2000-07-16 Thread Frank Mayhar
...any time soon? It's been in current since 3/16 so it would seem MFCable, but what do I know. Nick? (I run 4-stable and don't plan to run -current any time soon, _and_ I want to buy a Rio 500, but not if I can't hook it to FreeBSD.) Sent to both -current and -stable as both lists seem releva

randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
I found that I always got the same fortune quote after reboot, over and over again. It means that /dev/random produce exact the same values after reboot. It means that machine timer or keyboard not used for enthropy gathering. Using keyboard alone not helps for automatic tasks because it can be e

Re: dc driver and underruns (was: Strangeness with 4.0-S)

2000-07-16 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Friday, 14th July 2000, "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > >> I suspect an interaction between the ATA driver and VIA chipsets, > >> because other than the network, that's all that is operating when I see > >> the underruns. And my Celeron with a ZX chipset is immune. > > > >I've seen them on j

Re: make or fetch problem: hitting ^C doesn't terminate fetch process

2000-07-16 Thread Alexander Langer
Also sprach Andreas Klemm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I'm using -current of yesterday and tcsh. > When installing a FreeBSD port and I interrupt a "make all install clean" > session, when make is in the "make fetch target", the fetch process isn't > killed and continues to run alone although the "make

make or fetch problem: hitting ^C doesn't terminate fetch process

2000-07-16 Thread Andreas Klemm
Hi ! I'm using -current of yesterday and tcsh. When installing a FreeBSD port and I interrupt a "make all install clean" session, when make is in the "make fetch target", the fetch process isn't killed and continues to run alone although the "make" is terminated. Andreas /// -- Andrea

Re: Network install HOWTO available.

2000-07-16 Thread Alexander Langer
Thus spake Alfred Perlstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > http://people.freebsd.org/~alfred/pxe/ Nice article! I think that's worth going into the handbook, after you reworked the things you talked about :) Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMA

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Mark Murray
> I found that I always got the same fortune quote after reboot, over and over > again. It means that /dev/random produce exact the same values after reboot. > It means that machine timer or keyboard not used for enthropy gathering. > Using keyboard alone not helps for automatic tasks because it

Re: Request for comments: new `lpd' suite feature

2000-07-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:25 PM -0700 7/14/00, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >How would this work with printers on local networks? > >Say, a print server 192.168.1.73? > If you do not have a special DNS entry for that printer, then this new synthetic-printcap option would do nothing for you. In other words, you would contin

Re: Request for comments: new `lpd' suite feature

2000-07-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 12:09 AM -0400 7/15/00, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: >I almost hate to bring this up, but I think the unnamed-here >proposed replacement for our lpd allows you to set your PRINTER >environment variable to something like > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >louie For what it's worth, I think that feature

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Trevor Johnson
> I found that I always got the same fortune quote after reboot, over and over > again. It means that /dev/random produce exact the same values after reboot. There were some special instructions for the new random device: 2) If you do not have the randomdev module loaded, ssh will fail in st

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 08:26:44PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Gotcha - fix coming; I need to stash some randomness at shutdown time, and > use that to reseed the RNG at reboot time. ... and for installations where ssh-keygen is run the first time the system boots? -- Bill Fumerola - Network A

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Mark Murray
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 08:26:44PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > > Gotcha - fix coming; I need to stash some randomness at shutdown time, and > > use that to reseed the RNG at reboot time. > > ... and for installations where ssh-keygen is run the first time > the system boots? The situation i

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 09:42:29PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 08:26:44PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > > Gotcha - fix coming; I need to stash some randomness at shutdown time, and > > > use that to reseed the RNG at reboot time. > > > > ... and for installations wh

"NO_MODULES" in /etc/make.conf broken?

2000-07-16 Thread Donn Miller
Recently, when building a kernel (about 20 minutes as of this email), I set NO_MODULES= false in /etc/make.conf. The modules still weren't built with the kernel. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Mike Smith
> I found that I always got the same fortune quote after reboot, over and over > again. It means that /dev/random produce exact the same values after reboot. > It means that machine timer or keyboard not used for enthropy gathering. > Using keyboard alone not helps for automatic tasks because it

Re: Request for comments: new `lpd' suite feature

2000-07-16 Thread Christopher Masto
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 02:32:18PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 12:09 AM -0400 7/15/00, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > >I almost hate to bring this up, but I think the unnamed-here > >proposed replacement for our lpd allows you to set your PRINTER > >environment variable to something like > > >

Re: "NO_MODULES" in /etc/make.conf broken?

2000-07-16 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Donn Miller wrote: > > Recently, when building a kernel (about 20 minutes as of this email), > I set > > NO_MODULES= false > > in /etc/make.conf. The modules still weren't built with the kernel. The value is normally unimportant, thus NO_MODULES=false == NO_MODULES=true == ... To enable

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mark Murray wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 08:26:44PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > > Gotcha - fix coming; I need to stash some randomness at shutdown time, and > > > use that to reseed the RNG at reboot time. > > > > ... and for installations where ssh-keygen is ru

Re: missing idea.h, still conflicting defines WITH_IDEA and MAKE_IDEA

2000-07-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Something seems to be wrong with the logic concerning IDEA stuff. > I ask because I can't build the security/p5-Net-SSLeay port anymore > which is for example needed for webmin. Compare r1.2 of /usr/src/crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp.h with r1.4. Kris

Re: dc driver and underruns (was: Strangeness with 4.0-S)

2000-07-16 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Ohh... and a finally note, DEC blew the chip design by only including > a 160byte threshold point given that PCI 2.0 spec says it should have > been 500bytes!! It wouldn't be the first thing DEC had screwed up in the design of these NICs. On the other hand, Intel has owned the silicon

Re: Request for comments: new `lpd' suite feature

2000-07-16 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Huh? Security through ignorance? Remember that `lpr' is setuid-root and uses a ``privileged'' port for its communications. Many sites may still be using trusted-host ``authentication'' internally, and LPRng's ``feature'' may enable a compromise of some such service. (Got enough scar

Re: rtld-elf

2000-07-16 Thread John Polstra
In article <000c01bfeef3$8c71b8f0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So on Friday Morning, I deleted all my cvs source code and cvsup > all new copies from scratch. I did a make world and the compile > finished successfully. Whew, you had me worried for awhile there.

Re: dc driver and underruns (was: Strangeness with 4.0-S)

2000-07-16 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Ohh... and a finally note, DEC blew the chip design by only including > > a 160byte threshold point given that PCI 2.0 spec says it should have > > been 500bytes!! > > It wouldn't be the first thing DEC had screwed up in the design of > these NICs. On the othe

Re: dc driver and underruns (was: Strangeness with 4.0-S)

2000-07-16 Thread Mike Smith
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Ohh... and a finally note, DEC blew the chip design by only including > > a 160byte threshold point given that PCI 2.0 spec says it should have > > been 500bytes!! > > It wouldn't be the first thing DEC had screwed up in the design of > these NICs. On the othe

mfs_badop...

2000-07-16 Thread Matthew Jacob
any reason that we should be seeing these now: mfs_badop[vop_getwritemount] mfs_badop[vop_getwritemount] = 45 mfs_badop[vop_getwritemount] mfs_badop[vop_getwritemount] = 45 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: dc driver and underruns (was: Strangeness with 4.0-S)

2000-07-16 Thread David Greenman
>> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > Ohh... and a finally note, DEC blew the chip design by only including >> > a 160byte threshold point given that PCI 2.0 spec says it should have >> > been 500bytes!! >> >> It wouldn't be the first thing DEC had screwed up in the design of >> these NICs. On

Re: Request for comments: new `lpd' suite feature

2000-07-16 Thread Christopher Masto
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 08:15:05PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Huh? Security through ignorance? > > Remember that `lpr' is setuid-root and uses a ``privileged'' port for > its communications. Many sites may still be using trusted-host > ``authentication'' internally, and LPRn

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Boris Popov
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > The problem is that the randomdev stuff should be a delete option, ie. it > should be built as part of the kernel unless EXPLICITLY excluded, not the > wrong way around as it is at the moment. Exactly, randomdev should be compiled-in by default.

Re: Request for comments: new `lpd' suite feature

2000-07-16 Thread Cyrille Lefevre
Christopher Masto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 08:15:05PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > < said: > > > > > Huh? Security through ignorance? > > > > Remember that `lpr' is setuid-root and uses a ``privileged'' port for > > its communications. Many sites may still be

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FIXIT problems with /dev

2000-07-16 Thread Kent Hauser
Hi All, I just did something foolhardy -- and yet instructive. Pls let me relate. As I had polluted my system with an unstable recent CURRENT, I decided to rebuild from a more stable CURRENT. I (eventually) choose "cvs co -D 2000.06.21.04.00". Works great. Given the difficulty in finding workin

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Mark Murray
> > The situation is _worse_; the entropy is minimal, and is _very_ attackable. > > What's wrong about timers for enthropy (I mean high resolution ones)? > Really we need only few bytes of enthropy and can use them to seed RNG for the > first time if no true randomness available. To be joking: M

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Mark Murray
> The problem is that the randomdev stuff should be a delete option, ie. it > should be built as part of the kernel unless EXPLICITLY excluded, not the > wrong way around as it is at the moment. I agree. Any objections? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Un

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-16 Thread Mark Murray
> ssh-keygen should just block until it gets enough - this is not acceptable > behaviour if /dev/urandom is returning unseeded data. OpenSSL uses > /dev/urandom at the moment - I just read a comment in md_rand.c that using > /dev/random may block, which I didn't think was true. > > On the other h