Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > My wife creates websites for a living. > I nearly had to re-animate her after she looked at the FPC website. > The FPC website is a no-go area for her since that time. > > Hence my intent to re-open the debate. I ran across this 15 min lightning talk from FOSDEM 2024 t

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

El 30/11/2024 a las 09:53, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal escribió: On Nov 30, 2024 at 3:11:10 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: This is very much on topic. FPC has no build system Huh ? Of course it does, it has 2. fpcmake (older) and fpmake. Please don't spread incorrect informatio

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Hi James, On 02/12/2024 00:44, James Richters via fpc-pascal wrote: > there ---> and I'll be lucky if it takes me more than 5 minutes to > permanently install it! Uggg @ time! lol - yeah, I have so many of those. > I managed to figure fpGUI out... Basically rediscovering the issue and how > to

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 01/12/2024 10:00, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: > How we got to think that downloading 1200 different packages from internet to > build and > install a 200-line javascript program (so basically creating a zip) is OK, > will forever remain a mystery to me. I feel your pain, and ful

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

El 2/12/24 a les 1:44, James Richters via fpc-pascal ha escrit: I've got the fpGUI examples working and had a look at how some of them work, and It's very impressive! I've made a few GDI windows with my Freepascal programs before, but they are clumsy and hard for me to follow.. there is a lot o

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

been done in the develop branch. James -Original Message- From: fpc-pascal On Behalf Of Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2024 3:51 PM To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org Cc: Graeme Geldenhuys Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users Hi James.

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Hi James. On 29/11/2024 01:11, James Richters via fpc-pascal wrote: > I'm intrigued by FPGUI, I'm trying to build FPGUI on Windows 10, and I'm > having some difficulty. When I follow the instructions from Install.txt I > get this: > > R:\fpgui_src_1.4.1\fpgui-1.4.1\src>build I just got back f

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Nov 30, 2024 at 11:54:21 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: sorry but it’s not really part of the compiler, just something that generates commands it feeds to the compile right?. aren’t ne

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 30, 2024 at 11:54:21 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > sorry but it’s not really part of the compiler, just something that > generates commands it feeds to the compile right?. aren’t new compilers > doing away with this design and integratin

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Nov 30, 2024 at 3:11:10 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: This is very much on topic. FPC has no build system Huh ? Of course it does, it has 2. fpcmake (older) and fpmake. Please don'

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal schrieb am Sa., 30. Nov. 2024, 09:53: > On Nov 30, 2024 at 3:11:10 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < > fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > >> This is very much on topic. FPC has no build system >> >> Huh ? Of course it does, it has 2. fpcmake (older) and f

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 30, 2024 at 3:11:10 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > This is very much on topic. FPC has no build system > > Huh ? Of course it does, it has 2. fpcmake (older) and fpmake. > > Please don't spread incorrect information. > sorry but it’s not

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Nov 29, 2024 at 8:11:11 AM, James Richters via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: I'm intrigued by FPGUI, I'm trying to build FPGUI on Windows 10, and I'm having some difficulty. When I follow the instructions from

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 29, 2024 at 8:11:11 AM, James Richters via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > I'm intrigued by FPGUI, I'm trying to build FPGUI on Windows 10, and I'm > having some difficulty. When I follow the instructions from Install.txt I > get this: > This is very much on topic.

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

>>That builds the whole GUI toolkit from the command line. Works on Windows, >>MacOS, Linux and FreeBSD. I'm intrigued by FPGUI, I'm trying to build FPGUI on Windows 10, and I'm having some difficulty. When I follow the instructions from Install.txt I get this: R:\fpgui_src_1.4.1\fpgui-1.4.1\s

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Thanks for the kind words. RTTI is on my list, along with anonymous methods (happily waiting). Thanks, Iwan ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Hi Michael, Thanks for noticing and for the kind words! The cookbook site is still far from finished, I'm still adding contents as I learn FPC and Lazarus. Regards, Iwan ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepasca

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Den 24.11.2024 10:21, skreiv Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal: On Sat, 23 Nov 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Nov 24, 2024 at 4:12:03 AM, Iwan Kelaiah via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: Hello, I'm not sure, but I am working on this one: https://ikelaiah.git

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 24, 2024 at 4:21:21 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > Great work. This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. FPC team > should take notice. > > We do. Well, I did :). Request to Iwan, he have some new changes for “extended RTTI” like Delphi has and it would be nice to have an

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sat, 23 Nov 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Nov 24, 2024 at 4:12:03 AM, Iwan Kelaiah via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: Hello, I'm not sure, but I am working on this one: https://ikelaiah.github.io/free-pascal-cookbook/, and it mentions how to install FP

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

https://ikelaiah.github.io/free-pascal-cookbook/ High quality advertising for Pascal / Lazarus - congrats on a job (very) well done SteveG ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

❤️ zamron...@yahoo.com reacted via Yahoo Mail On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 8:04, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: ___ fpc-pascal maillist  -  fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 24, 2024 at 4:12:03 AM, Iwan Kelaiah via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm not sure, but I am working on this one: > https://ikelaiah.github.io/free-pascal-cookbook/, and it mentions how to > install FPC and use FPC for common tasks for newcomers. > Gre

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Hello, I'm not sure, but I am working on this one: https://ikelaiah.github.io/free-pascal-cookbook/ , and it mentions how to install FPC and use FPC for common tasks for newcomers. Regards, Iwan ___ fp

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal schrieb am Mi., 20. Nov. 2024, 15:47: > You missed the part when I said without some IDE or other. > > Show me a raw source file that doesn't depend on any IDE at all written > in FPC, something I can compile from the command line using *only* FPC > default installed

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 20/11/2024 14:46, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal wrote: > Show me a raw source file that doesn't depend on any IDE at all written > in FPC, something I can compile from the command line using *only* FPC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FpGUI#Example_program [mic drop] G. ___

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 20/11/2024 14:45, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal wrote: > Again, both of which are IDEs (just of a different type. And in case it wasn't obvious... fpGUI is fully implemented in Object Pascal. Every widget (component) is written in Object Pascal - even the optional 2D rendering engine (AggPas).

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 20/11/2024 14:45, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal wrote: > Again, both of which are IDEs (just of a different type. fpGUI has a "demo app IDE" only. It's not an IDE, but whatever. > You still haven't shown me how to build a GUI app with default fpc > installed resources. In fpGUI's README it

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Op 20-11-2024 om 15:45 schreef Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal: Again, both of which are IDEs (just of a different type. You still haven't shown me how to build a GUI app with default fpc installed resources.  What's the point of claiming FPC can do gui apps if it can't do them w/o third party s

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

FPC provides headers for Win API, GTK2, Cocoa, etc. so you can create GUI applications with a default FPC installation. W dniu 2024-11-20 o 15:45, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal pisze: Again, both of which are IDEs (just of a different type. You still haven't shown me how to build a GUI app with

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 17/11/2024 17:48, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal wrote: > I've done > searches on google, and asked on this list, and everything I can turn up > shows nothing as relates to building an FPC app with a GUI w/o using > some IDE or other.(mostly lazarus), so if you could kindly point me to > such

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

You missed the part when I said without some IDE or other. Show me a raw source file that doesn't depend on any IDE at all written in FPC, something I can compile from the command line using *only* FPC default installed resources. On 11/20/2024 1:42 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pascal wrote

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Again, both of which are IDEs (just of a different type. You still haven't shown me how to build a GUI app with default fpc installed resources.  What's the point of claiming FPC can do gui apps if it can't do them w/o third party support? On 11/20/2024 1:18 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys via fpc-pas

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 17/11/2024 17:48, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal wrote: > But the problem is (as I've repeatedly stated on this list) is that if > one doesn't use lazarus for their IDE, then building anything other than > basic command line programs is nearly impossible. I guess you didn't look very hard that.

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Does FPC have an equivalent site to http://www.getlazarus.org/? It's very well presented. g. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal said on Sat, 16 Nov 2024 06:28:38 -0500 > On Nov 16, 2024 at 3:13:26 PM, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal < >fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > >> If you know nothing about the language, the main page explains to you >> quickly what's the point of the language, and

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal said on Sat, 16 Nov 2024 10:13:26 +0200 >On 11/16/24 9:46 AM, Steve Litt via fpc-pascal wrote: >> DougC via fpc-pascal said on Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:15:13 -0500 >> >>> I'm tempted to ask if you are seriously asking this. But I won't. >>> >>> >>> >>> Design is a whole

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024, Vern via fpc-pascal wrote: Travis, There is a discussion in the fpc archives 2014 I believe about using Geany. I have been using Geany for over 10 years with complex GUI programs ... but you must use a file located in the directory where the executable is linked. ...

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Hi > On 17.11.2024, at 22:18, fpc-pascal-requ...@lists.freepascal.org wrote: > > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:48:14 + > From: tsie...@softcon.com > To: FPC-Pascal users discussions > Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users > Message-ID: <855ec7cc-

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 2:20 PM Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: > to pass it to the compiler through @extrafpc.cfg. > > If it is a fpc config file, then in that case it is definitely documented > here: > https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/current/user/userse17.html "One of the comman

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Travis, There is a discussion in the fpc archives 2014 I believe about using Geany. I have been using Geany for over 10 years with complex GUI programs ... but you must use a file located in the directory where the executable is linked. ... in this case extrafps.cfg ... and reference the fi

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 11/17/2024 12:57 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote: Am 16.11.2024 um 16:42 schrieb Marcos Douglas B. Santos via fpc-pascal: FPC and Lazarus are as unified as is sensible. We keep them different by *choice* so that users don't think that they *have* to choose Lazarus if they don't want to.

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 9:57 AM Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote: > > Am 16.11.2024 um 16:42 schrieb Marcos Douglas B. Santos via fpc-pascal: > > "anonymous procedures" now > > exist and can also be declared "anywhere"; > > You didn't get the important part of the feature then. The important > part

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 17, 2024 at 7:57:07 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > - how about allowing the same AS in unit declarations so we can do > something like [unit MyUnitWithABigName AS MyUnit] and then use > [MyUnit.TSomeClass] — this can already be done with MACROS, s

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am 15.11.2024 um 15:23 schrieb Steve Litt via fpc-pascal: Second, fpc is neither fish nor fowl: It has way too much "stuff" to be an easy to learn or use language, but that "stuff" isn't useful to most non-Lazarus users. The solution to this problem is to publicize the hell out of the -M tp mode,

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am 15.11.2024 um 23:35 schrieb Steve Litt via fpc-pascal: Sven Barth via fpc-pascal said on Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:46:22 +0200 Am 17.10.2024 um 01:51 schrieb Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal: Am Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2024, 00:08:27 CEST schrieb Sven Barth via fpc- pascal: News flash: this is ho

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am 16.11.2024 um 16:42 schrieb Marcos Douglas B. Santos via fpc-pascal: "anonymous procedures" now exist and can also be declared "anywhere"; You didn't get the important part of the feature then. The important part is less the anonymous function, but the function reference. That you can have

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 1:02 PM Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: > > > [...] > > Don't get me wrong. I've been working with Delphi for over 25 years > > and with FPC for 6 or 7 years. My career is based on Object Pascal. > > So, I too am interested in keeping the language relevant... but

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sat, 16 Nov 2024, Marcos Douglas B. Santos via fpc-pascal wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 11:43 AM Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: > I could see that if it was a compiler for “Pascal” which was defined by > some other group and you could reference them but it isn’t. FPC is a > l

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 11:43 AM Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: > > > I could see that if it was a compiler for “Pascal” which was defined by > > some other group and you could reference them but it isn’t. FPC is a > > language in its own right and the compiler is the only place that >

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 16, 2024 at 9:46:25 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > You never heard of Delphi, ElevateWeb, Smart Mobile Studio, PascalScript, > OxyGene ? > There are some others, can't recall the name. There is a Russian version, > called abcpascal or som

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 16, 2024 at 7:24:01 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > That said, the Free Pascal website is not about the pascal language. > > It is about the compiler. The GNU compiler or LLVM C compiler also do not > contain code on their website. Not that I would recommend their sites, but > these tool

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sat, 16 Nov 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Nov 16, 2024 at 7:24:01 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: That said, the Free Pascal website is not about the pascal language. It is about the compiler. The GNU compiler or LLVM C compiler also do not contain code on their website. No

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Users will judge a website within seconds. And unfortunately that is the nature of the game today. On Sat, 16 Nov 2024, 9:28 pm Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal, < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > On Nov 16, 2024 at 3:13:26 PM, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal < > fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.or

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

HI, On Sat, 16 Nov 2024, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: > By contrast, there is only one Python. There is only one Rust, Ruby > whatnot. Their compiler/interpreters *are* the language, so there it is > logical and suitable to present the language on their site. Actually, there's some

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Sat, 16 Nov 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Nov 16, 2024 at 3:13:26 PM, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: If you know nothing about the language, the main page explains to you quickly what's the point of the language, and gives you exampl

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 16, 2024 at 3:13:26 PM, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > If you know nothing about the language, the main page explains to you > quickly what's the point of the language, and gives you example code, so > you can immediately see how it looks like. T

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 11/16/24 9:46 AM, Steve Litt via fpc-pascal wrote: DougC via fpc-pascal said on Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:15:13 -0500 I'm tempted to ask if you are seriously asking this. But I won't. Design is a whole professional specialty. To say it boils down to light vs. dark background or the amount of

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

DougC via fpc-pascal said on Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:15:13 -0500 >I'm tempted to ask if you are seriously asking this. But I won't. > > > >Design is a whole professional specialty. To say it boils down to >light vs. dark background or the amount of whitespace is to insult >those who do this work as a

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal said on Thu, 17 Oct 2024 09:10:54 +0200 (CEST) >My wife creates websites for a living. >I nearly had to re-animate her after she looked at the FPC website. >The FPC website is a no-go area for her since that time. Exactly what should a FreePascal website have i

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 11/16/24 3:45 AM, Tim Coates via fpc-pascal wrote: I am a little on the fence regarding the comment re neither fish or fowl... each developer does their own thing in the language - whether that is writing something for platform X or working on database Y etc. Resources for learning are fe

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Consistency also helps... A web site, wiki and documentation in html, all with different appearances does not help the end user. but it is hard and a thankless task as well. That there is information available is a boon. On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 10:25 AM DougC via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.fr

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

I am a little on the fence regarding the comment re neither fish or fowl... each developer does their own thing in the language - whether that is writing something for platform X or working on database Y etc. Resources for learning are few and far between if you can find them. If you wanted to lea

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

I'm tempted to ask if you are seriously asking this. But I won't. Design is a whole professional specialty. To say it boils down to light vs. dark background or the amount of whitespace is to insult those who do this work as a career. I'm sure you aren't trying to do that, so I'm not sure what

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal said on Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:20:15 +0300 >> I also agree. Unfortunately, as I said, compiler developers don't >> make good web designers. >> >> Examples for bad sites (I'm repeating myself, I know): >> >> https://gcc.gnu.org/ >> >> https://llvm.org/ >> >> But this ti

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Sven Barth via fpc-pascal said on Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:46:22 +0200 >Am 17.10.2024 um 01:51 schrieb Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal: >> Am Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2024, 00:08:27 CEST schrieb Sven Barth >> via fpc- pascal: >>> News flash: this is how well behaved Linux applications are >>> supposed

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 11/15/2024 7:36 AM, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Nov 15, 2024 at 9:23:41 PM, Steve Litt via fpc-pascal wrote: First of all, Joanna on #fpc (and other fpc related IRC channels) has blown off over 100 potential fpc users, including myself. I'm learning Ada now, and liking it a lot.

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Nov 15, 2024 at 9:23:41 PM, Steve Litt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > First of all, Joanna on #fpc (and other fpc related IRC channels) has > blown off over 100 potential fpc users, including myself. I'm learning > Ada now, and liking it a lot. > what authority doe

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal said on Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:07:58 +0200 >At the Lazarus Congress in Cologne in October 2024, it ended up being >very interesting. An important question came up. > >Why are no new users coming to Lazarus/Freepascal? >Why do we find it so difficult? >How can we get ne

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Liam Proven via fpc-pascal schrieb am Sa., 19. Okt. 2024, 21:05: > On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 at 21:23, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal > wrote: > > > > Also, I see very few (if any) examples of how to generate GUI apps when > > using fpc commandline compiling, (again, without lazarus in the mix). > > The

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 at 21:23, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal wrote: > > Also, I see very few (if any) examples of how to generate GUI apps when > using fpc commandline compiling, (again, without lazarus in the mix). There is a modernised version of TurboVision out there: https://github.com/magiblo

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am Freitag, 18. Oktober 2024, 18:11:54 CEST schrieb Thomas Young via fpc- pascal: > Rainer, did you create this application with FPC? Please provide more > information about its development. > > Thomas Young > > > On Oct 18, 2024, at 10:48 AM, Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal > > wrote: > > > >

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:08 AM Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > > My wife creates websites for a living. > I nearly had to re-animate her after she looked at the FPC website. > The FPC website is a no-go area for her since that time. > > Hence my int

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Den 18.10.2024 14:02, skreiv Thomas Young via fpc-pascal: One way to attract new users is create great software applications with FPC for the world to see. Thomas Young https://peazip.github.io/ https://cudatext.github.io/ -- Best regards Arne Hanssen _

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Rainer, did you create this application with FPC? Please provide more information about its development. Thomas Young > On Oct 18, 2024, at 10:48 AM, Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal > wrote: > > Am Freitag, 18. Oktober 2024, 14:02:15 CEST schrieb Thomas Young via fpc- > pascal: >> One way to

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

I'd like to point out that the main reason for using Lazarus is for ease of use when programming, keeping track of source files and the like.  Unfortunately, Lazarus is not very user friendly to screen reader users, and (as far as I know), it never has been. That eliminates a small but signifi

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am Freitag, 18. Oktober 2024, 14:02:15 CEST schrieb Thomas Young via fpc- pascal: > One way to attract new users is create great software applications with FPC > for the world to see. https://klimaregelung.de/pages/deutsch/software.php ___ fpc-pascal m

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

I'm doing my part by creating a Cookbook (along with an intro to FPC and snippets).    https://ikelaiah.github.io/free-pascal-cookbook/ https://ikelaiah.github.io/free-pascal-cookbook/docs/basics/intro-objpas-fpc/   Regards, Ikel   Thumbs up! __

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

One way to attract new users is create great software applications with FPC for the world to see. Thomas Young > On Oct 18, 2024, at 6:52 AM, Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal > wrote: > >  > Op 16-10-2024 om 23:49 schreef James Richters via fpc-pascal: >> >> I think anyone coming across t

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Hi there, I'm doing my part by creating a Cookbook (along with an intro to FPC and snippets). https://ikelaiah.github.io/free-pascal-cookbook/ https://ikelaiah.github.io/free-pascal-cookbook/docs/basics/intro-objpas-fpc/ Regards, Ikel ___ fpc-pascal ma

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Op 16-10-2024 om 23:49 schreef James Richters via fpc-pascal: I think anyone coming across the IDE and not realizing the help needs to be downloaded and installed separately would just assume there is no help.I know it states it quite clearly on the download page, but when downloading it you

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Op 17-10-2024 om 09:10 schreef Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal: I fully agree. It is especially true for young people. My wife creates websites for a living. I nearly had to re-animate her after she looked at the FPC website. The FPC website is a no-go area for her since that time. Henc

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

El 16/10/2024 a las 04:32, Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal escribió: Am Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2024, 04:00:30 CEST schrieb DougC via fpc-pascal: I don't think the situations are vary similar, so I don't think the comparison is useful. I mainly wanted to say that it is possible to do so without e

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 10/17/2024 4:27 AM, Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal wrote: Am Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2024, 03:24:07 CEST schrieb Ralf Quint via fpc- pascal: Sorry, but do you really suggest that Lazarus should intentionally adjust itself to the shortcomings of other IDEs? Being able to move windows around o

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Peter B via fpc-pascal schrieb am Do., 17. Okt. 2024, 13:29: > Anybody, > on the subject of llvm; does anyone know if the option of llvm > back-end for fpc is ever going to make an official release? > The LLVM port has some shortcomings that will for the foreseeable future have it be a less good

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 17/10/2024 08:29, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal wrote: I also agree. Unfortunately, as I said, compiler developers don't make good web designers. Examples for bad sites (I'm repeating myself, I know): https://gcc.gnu.org/ https://llvm.org/ Hi Nikolay, and are these compiler suites w

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2024, 03:24:07 CEST schrieb Ralf Quint via fpc- pascal: > Sorry, but do you really suggest that Lazarus should intentionally > adjust itself to the shortcomings of other IDEs? Being able to move > windows around over multiple (2 or 3) monitors is the most effective way >

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 17/10/2024 03:24, Ralf Quint via fpc-pascal wrote: Sorry, but do you really suggest that Lazarus should intentionally adjust itself to the shortcomings of other IDEs? Being able to move windows around over multiple (2 or 3) monitors is the most effective way to work., l Nope. (And I do pre

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal wrote: I fully agree. It is especially true for young people. My wife creates websites for a living. I nearly had to re-animate her after she looked at the FPC website. The FPC website is a no-go area for her since that time. Hence my in

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 10/17/24 10:29 AM, Nikolay Nikolov wrote: On 10/17/24 10:10 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: On Wed, 16 Oct 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:12:08 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: I have proposed

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 10/17/24 10:10 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote: On Wed, 16 Oct 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:12:08 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: I have proposed this to the FPC core team, after some insistanc

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote: On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:12:08 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: I have proposed this to the FPC core team, after some insistance I managed to get a list of constraints from (if memory serves w

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

And here is my 2c worth ... Firstly, I will say that I do not know much about the group that manages FPC and related tools. I am also relatively new to FPC but a long time user of Delphi. Here is a newbies view of the world: 1. while the content on the website may be correct, it looks dated (firs

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 16-10-2024 11:07, Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal wrote: On 10/16/24 2:07 AM, Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal wrote: At the Lazarus Congress in Cologne in October 2024, it ended up being very interesting. An important question came up. Why are no new users coming to Lazarus/Freepascal? Wh

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:12:08 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > I have proposed this to the FPC core team, after some insistance I managed > to get a list of constraints from (if memory serves well?) 1 person. > > I admit I was put off by what I perce

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am 17.10.2024 um 01:51 schrieb Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal: Am Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2024, 00:08:27 CEST schrieb Sven Barth via fpc- pascal: News flash: this is how well behaved Linux applications are supposed to behave no matter if they are a "Linux system program" or not. Haha, I did no

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am 17.10.2024 um 03:42 schrieb Ralf Quint via fpc-pascal: On 10/16/2024 2:49 PM, James Richters via fpc-pascal wrote: >> By and large, FPC (and Lazarus) is installed rather quickly. The only thing I wish for the installation of FPC is that all the help files were included and installed by def

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Am 17.10.2024 um 01:57 schrieb Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal: Am Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2024, 23:12:08 CEST schrieb Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal: Actually, my employer has already offered twice to sponsor a web-designer to overhaul the website. Money was not an issue. The idea was to anno

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 10/16/2024 2:49 PM, James Richters via fpc-pascal wrote: >> By and large, FPC (and Lazarus) is installed rather quickly. The only thing I wish for the installation of FPC is that all the help files were included and installed by default. I am always annoyed by being required to go get the

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

On 10/16/2024 2:38 PM, Stefan-Iulian Alecu via fpc-pascal wrote: Lazarus does not look complicated. It has it own distinctive look & feel. User should be able to completely detach windows from from main so it would be possible to move them to different monitor, virtual desktop & freely move

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