On 11/17/2024 12:57 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
Am 16.11.2024 um 16:42 schrieb Marcos Douglas B. Santos via fpc-pascal:
FPC and Lazarus are as unified as is sensible. We keep them different by *choice* so that users don't think that they *have* to choose Lazarus if they don't want to.

But the problem is (as I've repeatedly stated on this list) is that if one doesn't use lazarus for their IDE, then building anything other than basic command line programs is nearly impossible.  I've asked (multiple times) on this list for samples of doing various things with FPC that lazarus does with ease, (such as GUI, and networking), without using lazarus, and each and every time, the silence has been deafening.

I've never once received any information on doing these kinds of things without Lazarus.  Sure, there's a (very) few examples of using tcp/ip networking with the default FPC install, but those examples are about as simplistic as it's possible to get, which actually shows next to nothing about such capabilities.  aAnd, I've *never* seen any samples of how to build a GUI app just by using the command line compiler.  I've done searches on google, and asked on this list, and everything I can turn up shows nothing as relates to building an FPC app with a GUI w/o using some IDE or other.(mostly lazarus), so if you could kindly point me to such resources, I'd love to see them

Typically when I ask such questions on this list, I get either no response at all, or I get snarky ones that contribute nothing to the discussion.  (mostly from yourself).

This is why I almost never use FPC for program development, unless it's a cross platform application that can run from the command line, there's just no point in doing otherwisesince I don't use an IDE of any kind.

I use powerbasic when GUI is required on windows, and java when GUI is required on other platforms.

I'd love to use FPC, since it otherwise checks all the boxes, cross platform, and capable of networking, and GUI programming, but I simply can't, because I can't find any examples of such for someone who doesn't use Lazarus.


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