On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote:
On Nov 30, 2024 at 11:54:21 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
sorry but it’s not really part of the compiler, just something that
generates commands it feeds to the compile right?. aren’t new compilers
doing away with this design and integrating the whole setup?
No, they are not. I don't know where you got that from.
On the contrary, build systems proliferate like crazy.
that was point there is no build system that the compiler system nows about
so there’s tons of 3rd party ones which break easily.
And the compiler is not supposed to know about it.
The compiler needs to do exactly thing: compile pascal code.
python, rust, go, nodejs, they also don't know about build systems.
Each of them provides a 'build system' but it is just "make" all over but
written in the language of choice.
Exactly like FPC.
I always wondered why
this information just couldn’t be part of the program file itself so
everything is in one place and the compiler knows about it.
Because you don't know the end-user's installation.
What mac version, what windows version, what linux distro:
things will be in different places.
The list of possible parameters is endless. You can't put this in in a
single program file. That is why build systems were conceived: to handle
this wide variety of parameters.
Building in C, C++ and Pascal is always a sore point in my experience.
Then we have very different experiences.
Whenever I meet npm, grunt, gradle, bazel, I know I'm in for a lot of
trouble, conflicting versions, need to update my system, download half of
the repositories on github in N different places etc.
How we got to think that downloading 1200 different packages from internet to
build and
install a 200-line javascript program (so basically creating a zip) is OK,
will forever remain a mystery to me.
Michael.
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