Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Risker
scribe, and has been doing so since June 11. This includes messages from the OTRS notification system. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Risker
my own participation in the project, and I know they have, to varying degrees, affected the way that other women participate in various projects. I don't know whether there's anything that could change most of them, either. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy policy, statistics and rankings

2010-08-03 Thread Risker
speak for other projects, but the account creation page on English Wikipedia includes some privacy warnings and links directly to the WMF privacy policy, as does every single page on the project. By creating an account, one implicitly accepts the terms of the privacy policy,

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy policy, statistics and rankings

2010-08-03 Thread Risker
On 3 August 2010 16:38, wrote: > Risker wrote: > > On 3 August 2010 15:48, Domas Mituzas wrote: > > > >>> The issue is when someone aggregates the data and associates with an > >>> individual, and then makes publishes it. Or uses that data to ma

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-01-31 Thread Risker
Thanks for your prompt responses, Beria. I have a few follow-ups. On 31 January 2012 22:43, Béria Lima wrote: > Hi Risker. let's go by question. > > *Why is the discussion happening on chapterswiki, instead of in an open > > place where all Wikimedians can at least

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-01 Thread Risker
somehow considered not representative of the movement, and that the opaque selection and appointment process for the "chapter" seats is somehow more representative of the movement. It concerns me a lot that the 97% of active Wikimedians who are not chapter members seem to not be considered part

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-01 Thread Risker
On 1 February 2012 17:22, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 February 2012 22:17, Risker wrote: > > This is well and good, but it gives the impression that the current three > > elected members of the board are somehow considered not representative of > > the movement, and that

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-01 Thread Risker
On 1 February 2012 17:38, Stuart West wrote: > On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Risker wrote: > > > it gives the impression that the current three > > elected members of the board are somehow considered not representative of > > the movement It > > concerns m

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-01 Thread Risker
On 1 February 2012 18:17, Theo10011 wrote: > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Risker wrote: > > > In what way do chapter-selected seats improve the running of the WMF, > > Thomas? The Board has no say in who is being selected, and there is no > > basis in fact to say tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Risker
es get mirrored all over the web and are well outside our control. I can understand why legislators will have to really think carefully about this one. Even within our own communities, there are wildly different opinions on this issue. Risker/Anne On 11 February 2012 12:30, Delirium wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Will Beback

2012-03-11 Thread Risker
raise your concerns than a WMF-wide mailing list intended to deal with cross-project or all-project issues. An individual editor being banned on one specific project does not meet that threshold. Risker On 11 March 2012 12:49, James Heilman wrote: > Great now if only that where true. With

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Risker
;dream" of families having their own reference library to considering such printed materials obsolete. Risker ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?

2011-06-19 Thread Risker
ssing this particular series, but my instinct is that the English Wikipedia community has learned from past experiences that having major public discussions about how to "address" certain types of vandals and vandalism can often turn out to be a primer in how to vandalize (or be seen by

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-10 Thread Risker
d Gerard on this one; I'm not seeing an upside to this practice, and a huge number of downsides. Strongly encourage the project to revisit this. Risker/Anne On 10 July 2011 13:08, wrote: > Do they have notaries in the Netherlands? Why not simply ask them to mail > a notarized stat

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-10 Thread Risker
On 10 July 2011 16:28, Peter Gervai wrote: > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 19:18, Risker wrote: > > > The next question becomesand what does this "trusted person" do with > the > > information? If it is destroyed promptly, then there's really not much > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum

2011-08-20 Thread Risker
se the clerk just happened to step away from the till for a few minutes? If it requires more time to do due diligence, then it will take more time. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum

2011-08-20 Thread Risker
the results, who has been harmed? > > > >' > > Months, not extra days, dude. > Jussi, I have no idea why you think it would take months to carry out due diligence on these votes, or months to release the results. Perhaps you should explain why you think that. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-20 Thread Risker
ified_login>) You get one vote, Milos. Your bots do not get to vote. Your auxiliary account does not get to vote, unless you forego voting on your main account. Risker/Anne [1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_filter_referendum/en#Rules ___ fou

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] 2011 H2 - Steward Elections

2011-08-21 Thread Risker
Perhaps a little explanation as to why we are having a second steward election this calendar year might be helpful; it's not entirely clear to me, at least. As well, will currently seated stewards be undergoing review? Risker/Anne On 22 August 2011 00:41, Benjamin Chen wrote: > Are

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-28 Thread Risker
wipe at chapters at all - without exception, the chapters are enthusiastic local drivers of the Wikimedia vision, regardless of their size or location. I have the sense that several chapters have found themselves overwhelmed by the volume of donations they've received, and a

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-28 Thread Risker
2011/8/28 Delphine Ménard > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Risker wrote: > > > See now, this is the kind of thinking that raises a lot of questions > about > > chapters receiving the very large amounts of money that many got the last > > time around. In the "

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-30 Thread Risker
motivating for groups to come together, gather momentum to move toward a more formal relationship with the WMF, and then find out that their ability to form a chapter is proscribed by conflicts between local requirements and the WMF standard chapter agreement. While I recognize that such a document

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-30 Thread Risker
On 30 August 2011 11:09, Bence Damokos wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Risker wrote: > > > > > It does strike me as odd that, given the legendary openness of > > Wikimedia-related projects and activities, at least the basic provisions > of > > t

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-30 Thread Risker
On 30 August 2011 19:35, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Risker wrote: > >>.. > > Thanks, Bence. Given that the document that is creating so much fuss is > > *not* publicly available, and there are many references to "current" &

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-03 Thread Risker
Chapter board members as well is quite accurate. (I'm not as sure as she about the WMF's intentions toward chapters; I have a feeling they've not really figured out their own vision of chapters, which makes things more confusing for everyone.) Risker/Anne

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-05 Thread Risker
hat many would > be willing to pay for, given the hordes of people beating down our doors > demanding just that... > > oh, wait. > > They already exist, and have for years. We call them "mirrors. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailin

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-07 Thread Risker
on to filtering, particularly those that seem to focus on "the content should be displayed in the way the authors intended", I'm concerned there would be equally significant opposition to even this simple matter. Risker/Anne ___ foundati

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-07 Thread Risker
On 7 September 2011 17:18, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Risker wrote: > > On 7 September 2011 10:48, David Gerard wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> The closest we could come to a neutral filtering sys

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Risker
eing looted. I'm pretty sure that one would have crossed the PG (or equivalent) in many countries. Sexually explicit pages cross the threshold in many countries as well, obviously, and there are some that would be rated as "Adults only" in many countries too. But we already know t

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-07 Thread Risker
On 7 September 2011 17:32, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Risker wrote: > > On 7 September 2011 17:18, John Vandenberg wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Risker wrote: > >> > On 7 Septe

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-07 Thread Risker
On 8 September 2011 01:57, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Risker wrote: > > On 7 September 2011 17:32, John Vandenberg wrote: > >> Every version of Mozilla has included the "Dont load images" option. > >> And it is simple to find

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Risker
ur post is "if you're a woman from the US, your opinion is invalid". Your post here did not further the discussion in any way, and I politely ask you to refrain from making such posts in the future. Risker ___ foundation-l mailing list founda

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Risker
On 30 September 2011 10:44, Oliver Koslowski wrote: > Am 30.09.2011 16:24, schrieb Risker: > > The implication of your post is "if you're a woman from > > the US, your opinion is invalid". Your post here did not further the > > discussion in any way, and I pol

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Risker
On 30 September 2011 10:36, Nathan wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Risker wrote: > > On 30 September 2011 10:12, Milos Rancic wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> Up to now, all females from US (four of them) are in favor of fi

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Risker
On 30 September 2011 12:15, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 16:24, Risker wrote: > > Milos, I believe this is exactly the kind of post that Sue was talking > about > > in her blog. It is aggressive, it is alienating, and it is intimidating > to > > oth

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Risker
On 30 September 2011 12:32, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 18:29, Risker wrote: > > I think there is much that can be discussed on the range of topic areas > > covered in this thread. But we must keep in mind that the views expressed > > here are those of

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Risker
if it is an appropriate > Illustration for the subject. No, I think he understood it just fine. I have seen similar arguments in several places on various projects: not just that it could be acceptable, but that there is a duty to include such information in articles that overrides editorial judgment, regardless of quality, source or other factors. Risker ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Risker
. > > Perhaps someone who can understand Italian well might be able to provide a brief summary of the situation to those of us who, sadly, depend on google translate? I am unclear what the "new" law says that is leading Italian-speaking Wikipedians to conside

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Risker
munity. It's not clear that the discussion has reached > an endpoint. It does seem like the protest statement could be > improved, perhaps with relevant links to contact politicians etc. > > One has to wonder how the "community" will be able to discuss unlock

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Risker
on this issue, that community needs to be the focus. (As an aside, kudos to Milos' rapid response and ability to organize his own local community in support of the concerns of our Italian counterparts.) Risker ___ foundation-l mailing list foundat

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-09 Thread Risker
xpertise, with the exception of the "Founder" seat which is approved on a regular basis. The primary responsibility of Board members is to the Foundation, not to the community or the chapters or to any other external agent. This is all available for review in the Bylaws

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-09 Thread Risker
On 9 October 2011 12:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Risker, 09/10/2011 18:40: > > Two board members are selected by chaptersl however, the board has > certain > > rights to refuse the selected candidates. Chapter-selected candidates > will > > be appointed in

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Risker
ulnerable, I'd like to hear the reasons why the current system, which is obviously necessary in order for people to find types of images, does not have the same effect. I'm not trying to be provocative here, but I am rather concerned that this does not seem to have been discussed.

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Risker
On 10 October 2011 18:08, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 04:52:48PM -0400, Risker wrote: > > > > Given the number of people who insist that any categorization system > seems > > to be vulnerable, I'd like to hear the reasons why the current sys

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Risker
On 10 October 2011 18:45, Kim Bruning wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:12:04PM -0400, Risker wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've seen it in operation. > > Let me check: Have seen your image filter software actually > directly use categories from

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Risker
On 10 October 2011 19:12, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:43:22PM -0400, Risker wrote: > > On 10 October 2011 18:45, Kim Bruning wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:12:04PM -0400, Risker wrote: > > > > > &g

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Risker
On 10 October 2011 20:03, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 08:49:13PM -0400, Risker wrote: > > No, I can't arrange a demonstration, Kim. I do not have net nannies on > any > > system that I control. The systems on which I have encountered them are > not >

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Risker
On 10 October 2011 21:26, John Vandenberg wrote: > Risker, > > The net nanny software could have been doing a keyword filter on the > word "Sex", which would reject every page and image in > [[Category:Sexual positions]] because it contains the word "sex". &g

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Risker
On 10 October 2011 20:52, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 09:22:09PM -0400, Risker wrote: > > all the articles in [[:Category:Sexual positions]] > > > > What are you trying to ... > > Let's try a question like: > > ...Can you block [[:Ca

[Foundation-l] Canadia Supreme Court Finds in Favour of Hyperlinker

2011-10-19 Thread Risker
particular principle, one on which the Wikimedia projects are heavily dependent. It does, however, identify a boundary (repeating defamatory content) that bears some watching. Risker [1] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/hyperlinking-doesnt-constitute-defamation-supreme-court-rules

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

2011-10-26 Thread Risker
me of Office Hours generally. I'd also like to suggest consideration be given to doing a "double" office hour session for topic areas that impact projects globally and involve editors from just about every time zone. Reading IRC "minu

Re: [Foundation-l] Frustration with WMF = WP

2011-11-02 Thread Risker
ganization (including the WMF) "to copy, distribute, transmit...[or]... adapt" [1] the content, provided that appropriate attribution is given and the resulting information is released under the same license? Risker/Anne [1] Excerpt from text of Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3

Re: [Foundation-l] Loriot and DCMA

2011-11-11 Thread Risker
Hi Klaus - Since it appears that this deletion is clearly labeled an OFFICE action, have you communicated with the WMF legal counsel? DCMA takedowns are not the only reason for OFFICE deletions. Risker On 11 November 2011 13:16, Klaus Graf wrote: > WMF has deleted some German stamps w

Re: [Foundation-l] Loriot: Please read carefully what I wrote

2011-11-11 Thread Risker
on-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > As far as I know, General Counsel Geoff Brigham has a page on Meta. Philippe has also provided the email address to reach the entire legal team. Risker

Re: [Foundation-l] Loriot

2011-11-11 Thread Risker
eoff would respond to you, I don't think you have grounds to complain that he is not responding to you directly and publicly if you have not contacted him directly and publicly. Here is a link to his Meta talk page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Geoffbrigham Risker ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Is a research banner "advertising" of the evil sort?

2011-12-09 Thread Risker
ssing something critical here, I believe it was the Research Committee, not the WMF staff, who approved the use of a central notice banner. Whether or not that is within their scope is a separate issue that should be discussed elsewhere. I am pleased to

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

2011-12-09 Thread Risker
age to grant permission for it to be reproduced here so that the rest of us aren't left in the dark about who said what. I don't begridge scholars carrying out approved research with Wiki?edians who volunteer to do so; in fact, I've responded to several requests myself. I do, however

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

2011-12-09 Thread Risker
Hi Jerome - please show me where it says that; I've not been able to verify that interpretation at all. My understanding is that the 30,000 are users with fewer than 100 edits per month on average, not that they are new users. Risker/Anne 2011/12/10 Jérôme Hergueux > I do, howev

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

2011-12-09 Thread Risker
th, and to have it well documented. Something that has never been clear is the reason that English Wikipedia editors were identified as the preferred target; there does not appear to be anything in this study that is particularly oriented toward Wikipedia activity. Risker/Anne 2011/12/10 Jérôme He

Re: [Foundation-l] Smurfs Movie is infringing on wikipedia copyright

2011-12-17 Thread Risker
Just think...if it is included in an online advertisement, Wikipedia could use SOPA to bring down the film for copyright infringement Risker On 17 December 2011 06:20, Ole Palnatoke Andersen wrote: > It was mentioned on the Wikimedia Foundation Communications Committee > Mailing L

Re: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours with the Head of Reader Relations, Thursday Dec. 22nd

2011-12-19 Thread Risker
Since that 0:00 UTC is always confusing to me, would I be correct to assume that this would be taking place Wednesday evening in North America? Risker On 19 December 2011 19:28, Steven Walling wrote: > Hey all, > > I think most Foundation-l subscribers know Philippe Beaudette

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-24 Thread Risker
er what message you are trying to get through to people, and try to find a way to explain what your concerns are without making vague allusions and being so combative. Best, Risker ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Risker
bout *last year's* fundraiser. The actions you're complaining about above were not repeated this year. This is called "learning from experience", and it is a talent that is highly prized within the WMF family of projects. After all, there is not a one of us who has not made an er

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Risker
On 31 December 2011 21:31, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 January 2012 02:23, Risker wrote: > > Enough, Thomas. After a reasonable explanation of the actions taken > today, > > you are now dredging up complaints about *last year's* fundraiser. The > > actions you&#x

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Risker
On 31 December 2011 21:40, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 January 2012 02:38, Risker wrote: > > Perhaps, Thomas, you might want to reflect that your point of view is not > > the only one worthy of consideration. If you have concerns about the > > spending priorities of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Risker
On 31 December 2011 21:46, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 January 2012 02:42, Risker wrote: > > I have, Thomas - which is exactly why I commented as I did. It is you > who > > have raised the issue of spending in this thread, which was initially > about > > how an

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-01-31 Thread Risker
? Will opinions from non-chapter members (who make up 97% of Wikimedians) be considered? Thanks, Risker/Anne On 31 January 2012 19:05, Béria Lima wrote: > The Wikimedia chapters are seeking to appoint two candidates to sit on the > Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees fo

Re: [Foundation-l] Has Wikipedia changed since 2005?

2010-09-16 Thread Risker
12 million articles and files across the WMF group is probably not the best way to assess the overall quality of the project. You are, as always, entitled to your own views on that perspective. Risker/Anne On 16 September 2010 15:29, Peter Damian wrote: > > How would locking Wikipedia d

Re: [Foundation-l] Increasing the number of new accounts who actually edit

2010-09-22 Thread Risker
ly since SUL. I am sure someone can run a script to determine how many "non-editing" English WP accounts have a partner "editing" account on another project. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
rst closing poll and the second one. Of course, having it deployed doesn't mean it will actually be used: there are 30% fewer articles on pending changes now than there were at its peak, and we never did get past 1600 articles in the first trial because very few administrators felt the cost/be

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
ave the authority to make that statement, it was your place to have corrected him forthwith. How unfortunate that you have placed a respected developer in this position. Risker/Anne [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.english/106702/match=pending+changes On 28 Septem

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
and contrary to popular belief, they're a lot harder to replace than they used to be. Your stats should tell you that. Risker/Anne On 28 September 2010 16:39, Erik Moeller wrote: > 2010/9/28 Risker : > > Thank you for confirming that English Wikipedia does not have a choice in

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
way. ALL of them were told they were voting for another trial, with the tool left on in the interim, not for permanent installation. And even with it just being put forward as a second trial, the support for continuing dropped 10% in two weeks. You're losing the hearts and minds battle here

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
it isn't > really necessary for them to be involved in achieving a negative result. > > The developers were being focused on because they have been the face of this project from Day One, and all communication with the community has been through them. Risker/Anne __

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
On 28 September 2010 18:35, Ryan Lomonaco wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Risker wrote: > > > And even with it just being put forward as a second trial, the support > for > > continuing dropped 10% in two weeks. > > > > You're losing

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
y of our collective time, energy and powers of persuasion. With that in mind, it's almost impossible to consider developing a second trial, since it doesn't seem like it will matter what criteria for continued use the project determines. Risker/Anne _

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
appropriate to our own project. Risker/Anne On 28 September 2010 20:25, Birgitte SB wrote: > > > --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Risker wrote: > > > From: Risker > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September > 27 > > To: "Wikimedia Fou

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Risker
On 28 September 2010 23:19, Michael Snow wrote: > On 9/28/2010 4:41 PM, Risker wrote: > Aside from the point already made regarding the desires of projects > other than the English Wikipedia - I guess I struggle to see what's so > demotivating about the prospect of a feature

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-29 Thread Risker
On 29 September 2010 21:07, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 9/28/10 7:41 PM, Risker wrote: > > Yes it is, and it's an important one. Several of us had already been > > working on a plan for the second trial, and those of us discussing had > > widely agreed that it would

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-29 Thread Risker
On looking at the bugzillas, I note that many of the more serious issues identified in the Roadmap are not addressed. I will leave it to RobLa to explain that rationale. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Differences between projects with common versus highly diverse cultural backgrounds (was Re: Pending Changes)

2010-09-29 Thread Risker
e for wide-scale use. Perhaps that is the key difference between these two community types: one places more emphasis on making cohesive group decisions, while the other more strongly encourages a range of solutions. I don't have any answers, just observations. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Differences between projects with common versus highly diverse cultural backgrounds (was Re: Pending Changes)

2010-09-30 Thread Risker
ly, one of the "selling points" of FR has been the likelihood of increasing the editor base, presumably of editors who carry out 100+ edits a month. The de:WP experience seems to contradict that, which I admit surprises me. Perhaps that is one metric to take off the ta

Re: [Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian

2010-10-20 Thread Risker
I'm not sure that the board does ultimately answer to the community; there's nothing in the bylaws to indicate that. Risker/Anne [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian

2010-10-20 Thread Risker
On 20 October 2010 16:47, Muhammad Yahia wrote: > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Risker wrote: > > > > > The board defines both "community" and "chapter". I'm not sure that the > > board does ultimately answer to the community; there

Re: [Foundation-l] chapter board seats (was: Greg Kohs and Peter Damian)

2010-10-20 Thread Risker
our focus. (I don't know Arne's work well enough to comment, but I extend the same good faith to him.) Now...would someone please explain internal-L to us? Thanks. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010-10-26 Thread Risker
g information on how to address perceived privacy violations, we include a recommendation to those who use Gmail to review all of their Google-related accounts and ensure that they remove all links. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-31 Thread Risker
tested by various safety organizations. I don't think it is worth mentioning, unless every time it is mentioned it is done in a way to tell readers that this is not only normal, it is required. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-31 Thread Risker
On 31 October 2010 21:27, Fred Bauder wrote: > > > I don't think it is worth mentioning, unless every time it is mentioned > > it > > is done in a way to tell readers that this is not only normal, it is > > required. > > > > Risker/Anne > > Th

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-31 Thread Risker
way to tell readers that this is not only normal, it is > >> > required. > >> > > >> > Risker/Anne > >> > >> The history of this issue has involved manufacturers taking control of > >> the studies to the extent that unfavorable results were s

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-11-18 Thread Risker
ikipedia, as I have heard reports that there's significant bias on other Wikipedias as well.) Anyone who's tried to rebalance an article that gives undue weight to negative issues, or to remove salacious trivia about a BLP subject, knows how incredibly frustrating it can be to bring

Re: [Foundation-l] A question for American Wikimedians

2010-11-18 Thread Risker
lved users don't include userboxes in their userspace (myself included), or don't use the userboxes that involve sex, race, age or nationality. It strikes me that I see probably 50 language-skill-related userboxes for every userbox that confirms geographic location or sex. Risker/Anne ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-11-18 Thread Risker
nging for subjects of articles to find their way to submit a request to have their article fixed, too. And remember that 1:960 ratio - even if every active editor on enwp made it their business to do nothing but maintenance and improvement of existing articles, we couldn't keep up with the workload. Risker/Anne [1] <http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-11-18 Thread Risker
-- Forwarded message -- From: Date: 18 November 2010 18:51 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age To: risker...@gmail.com In a message dated 11/18/2010 3:50:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, risker...@gmail.com writes: "We are extraordinarily ineffective at prov

Re: [Foundation-l] Corporate Social Responsibility

2010-11-19 Thread Risker
ou will agree that the reporting made under the applicable government legislation and regulation should probably be the place where the personal privacy/public information line should be drawn, because it is consistent across the entire non-profit sector. So...could someone pl

Re: [Foundation-l] Corporate Social Responsibility

2010-11-19 Thread Risker
ndation/5/54/WMF_2008_2009_Form_990.pdf The section on salaries begins on Page 7. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes to the identification policies and procedures

2011-02-03 Thread Risker
to the WMF for the use of this information. But sending in an unverified document isn't going to do that, and it never was. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Risker
this and with the appropriate subject line, about accessibility generally speaking, but this isn't that thread. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/found

Re: [Foundation-l] help on usability initiative sandbox wiki

2011-02-20 Thread Risker
convenient way to notify the appropriate parties of how to address these issues. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-14 Thread Risker
this issue, and I don't see any historical evidence of committees prior to 2009 having addressed this issue either, including the time that you were on the committee. Risker/Anne ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-14 Thread Risker
On 14 March 2011 11:03, David Gerard wrote: > On 14 March 2011 15:01, Risker wrote: > > > David, I strongly object to your continued twisting of my words, > > > The link to your precise words is there. It's what you actually said. > > Or are you claiming t

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