On 10 October 2011 18:08, Kim Bruning <k...@bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 04:52:48PM -0400, Risker wrote: > > > > Given the number of people who insist that any categorization system > seems > > to be vulnerable, I'd like to hear the reasons why the current system, > which > > is obviously necessary in order for people to find types of images, does > not > > have the same effect. I'm not trying to be provocative here, but I am > > rather concerned that this does not seem to have been discussed. > > > Been discussed to death, raised from the dead, chopped up with a > chainsaw,reresurrected, taken out > with a sawn-off-shotgun, stood back up missing an arm... "they just keep > on coming!" > > > The current category system is not as vulnerable to being abused because it > is not a prejudicial labelling > system. > > In straight english: > > Computers are sort of stupid. They can't infer intent. > > A. If we want a computer program to offer something to be blocked, it needs > a label that essentially says "This Is > Something People Might Want To Block" > > B. A computer program cannot really safely determine what to do with > "licking" or "exposed breasts" (especially as > are different norms on what is appropriate in different parts of the world) > > > Our current category system conforms to B. We would need some sort of > mapping to A to make a category based filter > work. > > Social problem: Mapping B to A is evil, according to ALA. ;-) > > sincerely, > Kim Bruning > > Patient: "Doctor Doctor, it hurts when I map B to A!" > Doctor: "So Don't Do That Then" > > Oh please, Kim; this is nonsense. Commercially available software is, even right now, blocking certain content areas by category and/or keywords for (at minimum) Commons and English Wikipedia; I've seen it in operation. So there's no reason to believe that the current category system, which we use legitimately for content-finding, is not amenable to use in exactly the same way that an image-filter-specific category would be. Risker _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
