On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Anthony wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/28 Anthony : > It seems to me that if one is
>> to assume good faith, the answer is that the
>> > money and the commitment by Halprin to be on the board *were* related,
>> in
>> > t
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/28 Anthony : > It seems to me that if one is to
> assume good faith, the answer is that the
> > money and the commitment by Halprin to be on the board *were* related, in
> > that they were both things provided for the Wikimedia Foundat
2009/8/28 Anthony :
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/28 Liam Wyatt :
>> > In the interest of creating *informed* discussion, please note the
>> > publication of Episode 82 of Wikipedia Weekly - an interview with Matt
>> > Halprin.
>> >
>> > In this, at timecode 9:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/28 Liam Wyatt :
> > In the interest of creating *informed* discussion, please note the
> > publication of Episode 82 of Wikipedia Weekly - an interview with Matt
> > Halprin.
> >
> > In this, at timecode 9:15 he is specifically asked a
here is the transcript of the question and answer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikipediaWeekly/Wikimania_2009/Halprin
Thanks to Sage Ross for doing this.
-Liam [[witty lama]]
On 8/28/09, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/28 Liam Wyatt :
>> In the interest of creating *informed* discussi
2009/8/28 Liam Wyatt :
> In the interest of creating *informed* discussion, please note the
> publication of Episode 82 of Wikipedia Weekly - an interview with Matt
> Halprin.
>
> In this, at timecode 9:15 he is specifically asked about the issue of
> the donation+board membership.
>
> http://wikip
In the interest of creating *informed* discussion, please note the
publication of Episode 82 of Wikipedia Weekly - an interview with Matt
Halprin.
In this, at timecode 9:15 he is specifically asked about the issue of
the donation+board membership.
http://wikipediaweekly.org/2009/08/28/episode-82-
On 8/27/09 6:43 PM, Birgitte SB wrote:
> I agree. Inward facing communication has long been a problem for
> WMF.
> At times there have been board members that took more leadership in this
> area regarding various issues, but I can't remember a time when this
> hasn't been an issue. I think it is mo
--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Kropotkine_113 wrote:
> From: Kropotkine_113
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to
> Wikimedia Foundation
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 7:53 AM
> Th
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/27 Anthony :
> > I agree that companies often misuse the term "partner" for people who
> aren't
> > actually "partners" (although I can't think of an example, can you?).
>
> Big banks often do it. I remember reading a news article abou
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Kropotkine_113 wrote:
> I think that a non-used but very efficient
> solution would be to share informations before the official report and
> to work closely with local chapters ; but this is a more wide problem
> and slightly out-of-the-scope of this thread.
I agr
2009/8/27 Anthony :
> I agree that companies often misuse the term "partner" for people who aren't
> actually "partners" (although I can't think of an example, can you?).
Big banks often do it. I remember reading a news article about Goldman
Sachs announcing its new batch of partners. They were al
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
> "Partner" has different meanings. A partner in a partnership is as you
> describe. A partner is a large (often public) company like a bank is
> just a title for a high ranking employee. I think we are talking at
> cross purposes. If Matt is
2009/8/27 Anthony :
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/27 Anthony :
>> > I'm not convinced Halprin is even employed by the Omidyar Network.
>> > According to the website, he is a partner. Partners aren't employees.
>>
>> I think partners usually are employees, jus
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Anthony wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/27 Anthony :
>> > I'm not convinced Halprin is even employed by the Omidyar Network.
>> > According to the website, he is a partner. Partners aren't employees.
>>
>> I think partn
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/27 Anthony :
> > I'm not convinced Halprin is even employed by the Omidyar Network.
> > According to the website, he is a partner. Partners aren't employees.
>
> I think partners usually are employees, just ones with a stake in the
>
2009/8/27 Anthony :
> I'm not convinced Halprin is even employed by the Omidyar Network.
> According to the website, he is a partner. Partners aren't employees.
I think partners usually are employees, just ones with a stake in the business.
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/27 Joshua Gay :
> > When Matt Halprin is on the board of Wikimedia, he is doing his job for
> > Omidyar Network. So, when we read, a statement like:
>
> I'm not familiar with the relevant US law, but in the UK that would be
> illegal.
2009/8/27 Thomas Dalton :
> 2009/8/27 Joshua Gay :
>> When Matt Halprin is on the board of Wikimedia, he is doing his job for
>> Omidyar Network. So, when we read, a statement like:
>
> I'm not familiar with the relevant US law, but in the UK that would be
> illegal. A trustee has a legal obligatio
2009/8/27 Joshua Gay :
> When Matt Halprin is on the board of Wikimedia, he is doing his job for
> Omidyar Network. So, when we read, a statement like:
I'm not familiar with the relevant US law, but in the UK that would be
illegal. A trustee has a legal obligation to do what they think is
best for
Thank you very much all of you (Brigitte SB, Ting Chen, Mickael Snow and
others).
To close my participation in this thread I just add three points :
- My question about the wikimedia membership criterion wasn't very
important, but just-to-know ; thanks for your explanations.
- The communication
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> When I read that people with a seat on the board aren't supposed to be
>> paid,
>> I hope you mean that they are not paid by the Wikimedia Foundation.
>
>
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
>
> When I read that people with a seat on the board aren't supposed to be
> paid,
> I hope you mean that they are not paid by the Wikimedia Foundation.
No, what I mean is they aren't supposed to be paid *for being board
members*. At least
Hoi.
When I read that people with a seat on the board aren't supposed to be paid,
I hope you mean that they are not paid by the Wikimedia Foundation. Because
the alternative is that all people on the board have to independently
wealthy and if that is the case I am relieved that I only just lost fro
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Joshua Gay wrote:
> When Matt Halprin is on the board of Wikimedia, he is doing his job for
> Omidyar Network.
That's quite an accusation. WMF board members aren't supposed to be paid.
If they're paid by a third party, is that okay?
> So, yes, I think ON has
When Matt Halprin is on the board of Wikimedia, he is doing his job for
Omidyar Network. So, when we read, a statement like:
> [Matt Halprin] has important nonprofit experience, serving on the boards of
> organizations like DonorsChoose.org and the Sunlight Foundation.
Just remember that he was
On 27 Aug 2009, at 03:46, Michael Snow wrote:
> Kropotkine_113 wrote:
>> Does he fulfill the Nomitanig Commitee selection criterion :
>> "Membership
>> in the Wikimedia community" ?
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nominating_Committee/
>> Selection_criteria#General_needed_traits
>>
> Ting al
Kropotkine_113 wrote:
> Does he fulfill the Nomitanig Commitee selection criterion : "Membership
> in the Wikimedia community" ?
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nominating_Committee/Selection_criteria#General_needed_traits
>
Ting already answered the rest of these questions, but I will elaborat
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to
> Wikimedia Foundation
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 3:44 PM
> Hello Kropotkine_113,
>
> since I am on the NomCom I will answer your questions.
>
&g
2009/8/27 Anthony :
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Guillaume Paumier
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Gregory Kohs wrote:> A
>> board member (or volunteer, or anyone who goes around and asks
>> > someone to donate money to a cause) has some leverage if they can
>> > answer: « I
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Guillaume Paumier wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Gregory Kohs wrote:> A
> board member (or volunteer, or anyone who goes around and asks
> > someone to donate money to a cause) has some leverage if they can
> > answer: « I donated $2 million because I t
Kropotkine_113 wrote:
> Ok. It would be interesting to explain that more explicitely somewhere
> (on meta or on wikimediafoundation's wiki) because It was not so obvious
> (or I didn't understain...) when I read the Q&A page I mentionned.
>
I agree, we will improve that.
> Thank you for all thes
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 21:26, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Guillaume Paumier
> wrote:
> [snip]
>> It is very common for members of the board of a non-profit
>> organisation to donate money to support this organisation.
>
> It was my understanding that the appointment
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 22:44 +0200, Ting Chen a écrit :
> Hello Kropotkine_113,
Hello Ting,
> since I am on the NomCom I will answer your questions.
>
> Kropotkine_113 wrote:
> > Has Matt Halprin been designated to the Board by the Nominating Commitee
> > (NOMCOM) ? This is explicity requi
Hello Kropotkine_113,
since I am on the NomCom I will answer your questions.
Kropotkine_113 wrote:
> Has Matt Halprin been designated to the Board by the Nominating Commitee
> (NOMCOM) ? This is explicity required if I read correctly this page :
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trus
My two cents -
The Board telegraphed this ahead of time, not the particulars
(who/when) but the generalities.
The process is not unusual for other charitable organizations.
There are more community members (active or ex) on the Board than any
other category. There still will be even if all the
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Casey Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> I think that fits the definition of "sell", others
>> may disagree but it is semantics and is unimportant.
>
> Is it unimportant? We're discussing how this action is perceived as
> having
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> I think that fits the definition of "sell", others
> may disagree but it is semantics and is unimportant.
Is it unimportant? We're discussing how this action is perceived as
having bought a seat, so I'd say that that semantics and
interpreta
2009/8/26 Gregory Maxwell :
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Guillaume Paumier
> wrote:
> [snip]
>> It is very common for members of the board of a non-profit
>> organisation to donate money to support this organisation.
>
> It was my understanding that the appointment was of Matt Halprin, not
>
2009/8/26 Robert Rohde :
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Robert Rohde wrote:
>>> However, in this case, even if we
>>> assume the seat was outright "bought" for $2M, I don't think there are
>>
>> I'm not sure why people are behaving as
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Gregory Kohs wrote:
> Guillame said:
I know my name is unpronounceable to anyone who doesn't speak French,
but I would assume copy/pasting isn't that difficult.
> A board member (or volunteer, or anyone who goes around and asks
> someone to donate money to a cause
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Robert Rohde wrote:
> I hedged my language because I don't believe it is that simple. I do
> believe the money and the seat are linked, but I don't believe just
Thats quite fair, however:
> anyone could buy a seat for $2M. For example, I doubt Mr. Kohs would
> b
Hoi,
Gregory, at Wikimania people are REALLY busy with the business of our
organisation and your notion that there might be people that are their
answer you in what you consider a timely fashion is at odds with reality.
Realistically if you get a message in the first place, do not expect
anything
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Robert Rohde wrote:
>> However, in this case, even if we
>> assume the seat was outright "bought" for $2M, I don't think there are
>
> I'm not sure why people are behaving as though there is any ambiguity
>
Guillame said:
"
A board member (or volunteer, or anyone who goes around and asks
someone to donate money to a cause) has some leverage if they can
answer: « I donated $2 million because I think this cause is worthy.
How much will you donate? »
"
+++
How unfortunate for Matt Halprin. As f
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Guillaume Paumier wrote:
[snip]
> It is very common for members of the board of a non-profit
> organisation to donate money to support this organisation.
It was my understanding that the appointment was of Matt Halprin, not
the Omidyar Network.
On Wed, Aug 26, 200
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/26 Guillaume Paumier :
>> Hello
>>
>> [I didn't read the whole thread, apologies if this point has already been
>> made.]
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Dalton
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Those answers don't address the fact tha
2009/8/26 Guillaume Paumier :
> Hello
>
> [I didn't read the whole thread, apologies if this point has already been
> made.]
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>>
>> Those answers don't address the fact that you've just given a seat on
>> the board to someone that has just g
Hello
[I didn't read the whole thread, apologies if this point has already been made.]
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
> Those answers don't address the fact that you've just given a seat on
> the board to someone that has just given you a big pile of cash.
It is very com
I just ask few questions. I did not mention conflict of interest nor
community upset in my post. I'm not a high-volume Foundation-l poster
(maybe 1 or 2 posts in three years), but an intensive reader.
About the nominating commitee, in this Q&A page :
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_T
2009/8/26 Sebastian Moleski :
> Hi Thomas,
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Thomas Dalton
> wrote:
>
>> Wikimedia is a community driven movement, big decisions should be made
>> by the community.
>
> Those are undoubtedly interesting assertions. Assuming the second one
> is the case (big decisions
Sebastian Moleski hett schreven:
> This may be a heretic question but I'd like to pose it anyway: why
> should it be necessary or appropriate for the Foundation to discuss
> this subject with the project communities? How does this appointment
> have any impact on the activities within the pro
Hi Thomas,
On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Thomas Dalton
wrote:
> Wikimedia is a community driven movement, big decisions should be made
> by the community.
Those are undoubtedly interesting assertions. Assuming the second one
is the case (big decisions should be made by the community), it rai
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Kropotkine_113 wrote:
> Just few questions to make my opinion.
>
> Has Matt Halprin been designated to the Board by the Nominating Commitee
> (NOMCOM) ? This is explicity required if I read correctly this page :
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trus
Just few questions to make my opinion.
Has Matt Halprin been designated to the Board by the Nominating Commitee
(NOMCOM) ? This is explicity required if I read correctly this page :
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees/Restructure_Announcement_Q%26A
If he has, when ? Before or af
2009/8/26 Sebastian Moleski :
> This may be a heretic question but I'd like to pose it anyway: why
> should it be necessary or appropriate for the Foundation to discuss
> this subject with the project communities? How does this appointment
> have any impact on the activities within the projects?
I
> this subject with the project communities? How does this appointment
> have any impact on the activities within the projects?
This question is equivalent to the question:
How does any appointment to the board have any impact on the
activities within the projects?
isn't it?
... or even
How does
Hi Thomas,
On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Thomas Dalton
wrote:
> Those answers don't address the fact that you've just given a seat on
> the board to someone that has just given you a big pile of cash. I am
> open to being convinced that this is a good thing, but you haven't
> even tried to conv
2009/8/26 Erik Moeller :
> 2009/8/25 Thomas Dalton :
>> How can you have a Q&A on a topic like this that doesn't even address
>> the matter than you have sold a seat on the board? Has the WMF
>> completely lost touch with the community? It should be obvious that
>> this is going to be a highly cont
Here's a simple series of questions:
(1) On which boards of directors (either for-profit or non-profit) has Matt
Halprin been newly seated, since 2006?
(2) To which of those organizations has the Omidyar Network made a
significant financial contribution or investment?
(3) What is the result of t
Hoi,
hear hear !!
Thanks,
Gerard
2009/8/26 Christophe Henner
> Hey,
>
> I've read most of the topic on my blackberry so might have missed some
> point but I'm surprised of the reactions.
>
> In my opinion there's only two questions "Is OM an organisation close
> to WMF and supporting other
Hey,
I've read most of the topic on my blackberry so might have missed some
point but I'm surprised of the reactions.
In my opinion there's only two questions "Is OM an organisation close
to WMF and supporting other NPO sharing some of WMF goals ? " the
answer is yes. So I don't see the problem i
2009/8/26 Peter Gervai :
> ...still, I have to acknowledge that money is the root of Evil
Sure, if world peace is evil.
By the way, you might want to read up on Wikipedia on that phrase,
where it will undoubtedly tell you that it is "the *lust* for money
that is the root of all evil". Not money
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Peter Gervai wrote:
> ...still, I have to acknowledge that money is the root of Evil
Feel free to send all yours to me.
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...still, I have to acknowledge that money is the root of Evil, and
it's getting harder and harder as these dollar bills start to pile up
where do they go and why...
...the reports get more and more vague, the report items get more and
more broad, and at the end we start to see hundreds of those b
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 22:57, James Forrester wrote:
> Oh, and someone told me to do this, but unfortunately I'm not allowed
> to say who instructed me so to do.
Must've been The Voices.
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Thank you James.
Some bizarre claims are simply not worthy of serious response. For the
record, the community is far from irrelevant: the community is the most
important thing, full stop.
James Forrester wrote:
> 2009/8/25 Anthony :
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Thomas Dalton
>> wrote:
2009/8/25 Thomas Dalton :
> How can you have a Q&A on a topic like this that doesn't even address
> the matter than you have sold a seat on the board? Has the WMF
> completely lost touch with the community? It should be obvious that
> this is going to be a highly controversial decision and yet you
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Gregory Kohs wrote:
> *Jan-Bart de Vreede said:
> *
> "the next year will be crucial for us as an
>
> organization in determining our long term strategy. But that process
> is shaped by YOU. The tremendous strategy project (details at
> http://strategy.wikimedia.org
*Jan-Bart de Vreede said:
*
"the next year will be crucial for us as an
organization in determining our long term strategy. But that process
is shaped by YOU. The tremendous strategy project (details at
http://strategy.wikimedia.org
) started a month ago is making good first steps. The Board of
Anthony said:
*>> Wales was right when he said that the
*>>* community* *is irrelevant.
*
James Forrester then made a humorous attempt to deflect the possibility that
this might possibly be true.
James, you may benefit from reading (with an open mind, if possible) the
following essay from attorn
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Anthony wrote:
>
> Occurring on the same day may imply "related" but it does not, beyond a
> reasonable doubt, equal "sold". If it did, we'd have a whole lot more
> prostitution convictions.
>
Nevermind:
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS157391+18-M
Sorry to top-post (Blackberry).
Yes, the progress towards the goals will be published to the
community. Omidyar wants to support us in doing our work, so we
worked together to define what success will look like (as per the Q
and A). Those were very good conversations, in which they essentially
ag
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Steven Walling
> wrote:
>
>> I think everyone needs to calm down a little.
>> Remember that we just got 2 million dollars to further our mission, and that
>> the board seat appointment (which isn't an unusual practice, at least in my
>>
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/25 Anthony :
> > Occurring on the same day may imply "related" but it does not, beyond a
> > reasonable doubt, equal "sold". If it did, we'd have a whole lot more
> > prostitution convictions.
>
> As I've already said, whether or not
2009/8/25 Anthony :
> Occurring on the same day may imply "related" but it does not, beyond a
> reasonable doubt, equal "sold". If it did, we'd have a whole lot more
> prostitution convictions.
As I've already said, whether or not it was sold is irrelevant, it
*looks* like it was sold, and that i
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/25 Anthony :
> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Thomas Dalton >wrote:
> >
> >> 2009/8/25 Erik Moeller :
> >> > More importantly, please review the questions and answers page about
> the
> >> grant.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://wikime
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Steven Walling wrote:
> I think everyone needs to calm down a little.
> Remember that we just got 2 million dollars to further our mission, and that
> the board seat appointment (which isn't an unusual practice, at least in my
> experience) does nothing to impede ou
Thanks, Erik and Jan-Bart, for the additional information and the Q & A.
Appointing board members from donor organizations can be tricksy,
particularly as the relationships in question evolve. Hopefully it goes
smoothly.
On the reporting requirements built into the grant - will the information
repo
2009/8/25 Steven Walling :
> I think everyone needs to calm down a little.
> Remember that we just got 2 million dollars to further our mission, and that
> the board seat appointment (which isn't an unusual practice, at least in my
> experience) does nothing to impede our work and the positive impa
2009/8/25 Anthony :
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/25 Erik Moeller :
>> > More importantly, please review the questions and answers page about the
>> grant.
>> >
>> >
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Omidyar_Network_Grant_August_2009QA
>>
>>
I think everyone needs to calm down a little.
Remember that we just got 2 million dollars to further our mission, and that
the board seat appointment (which isn't an unusual practice, at least in my
experience) does nothing to impede our work and the positive impact we can
have. It's the exact oppo
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/25 Erik Moeller :
> > More importantly, please review the questions and answers page about the
> grant.
> >
> >
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Omidyar_Network_Grant_August_2009QA
>
> How can you have a Q&A on a to
2009/8/25 Erik Moeller :
> More importantly, please review the questions and answers page about the
> grant.
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Omidyar_Network_Grant_August_2009QA
How can you have a Q&A on a topic like this that doesn't even address
the matter than you have so
> Not the advisory board, the real one.
>
> _
Oh! Even better.
Kind regards
Ziko
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2009/8/25 Gregory Maxwell :
> Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation
Thanks Greg. Our official press release, as well as a Q&A on the grant
and Board appointment, can be found here:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Omidyar_Network_Grant_August_2009
Mor
2009/8/25 Ziko van Dijk :
> That evil man gets into the Advisory Board without having made one
> single edit, by paying simply a lousy 2 million bucks. How terrible.
> :-)
Not the advisory board, the real one.
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That evil man gets into the Advisory Board without having made one
single edit, by paying simply a lousy 2 million bucks. How terrible.
:-)
Great achievement of our folks, congratulations!
By the way, the Wikimania speeches, will they be to see on the internet?
Kind regards
ZIko
2009/8/25 Jam
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:18 PM, James Forrester wrote:
>
> As you already asked me about this off-list, and didn't like my
> response, I'm happy to give it here:
Can you prove that I asked you about this off-list?
> Sure, but whether or not I believe you, my point is that it's not
> really hel
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Anthony wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, James Forrester >wrote:
>
> > 2009/8/25 Anthony :
> > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Thomas Dalton <
> thomas.dal...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > membership organizations. Wales was right when he sai
2009/8/25 Anthony :
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, James Forrester wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/25 Anthony :
>> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Thomas Dalton > >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > membership organizations. Wales was right when he said that the
>> >> community
>> >> > is irrelevant.
>> >>
>> >> When
2009/8/25 Anthony :
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, James Forrester wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/25 Anthony :
>> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Thomas Dalton > >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > membership organizations. Wales was right when he said that the
>> >> community
>> >> > is irrelevant.
>> >>
>> >> When
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, James Forrester wrote:
> 2009/8/25 Anthony :
> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Thomas Dalton >wrote:
> >>
> >> > membership organizations. Wales was right when he said that the
> >> community
> >> > is irrelevant.
> >>
> >> When did Jimmy say that? I rather su
Hi All,
Little note from Argentina. Both Jay and most members of the board
have been wrapped up in a two hour press conference for Wikimania 2009
over here. It does come down to a timing issue. I expect Michael will
post on Foundation-l about this in the next hour or so. Also as
announced
2009/8/25 Anthony :
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>>
>> > membership organizations. Wales was right when he said that the
>> community
>> > is irrelevant.
>>
>> When did Jimmy say that? I rather suspect you are taking something he
>> said out of context...
>
> Many years
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
> > membership organizations. Wales was right when he said that the
> community
> > is irrelevant.
>
> When did Jimmy say that? I rather suspect you are taking something he
> said out of context...
Many years ago, but my source is confident
2009/8/25 Anthony :
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/25 Nathan :
>> > This is good news. It doesn't seem strange to me at all that a major
>> donor
>> > gains a limited voice on the Board, particularly when the donor can offer
>> > expertise and connections in add
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Nathan wrote:
> One thing I'm curious about... Why did this announcement come from Greg?
I simply saw it on PRNewswire and figured folks here would appreciate seeing it.
I have no clue why it wasn't already posted here but the coordination
of press-releases can be
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/25 Nathan :
> > This is good news. It doesn't seem strange to me at all that a major
> donor
> > gains a limited voice on the Board, particularly when the donor can offer
> > expertise and connections in addition to funding. It also se
2009/8/25 Nathan :
> This is good news. It doesn't seem strange to me at all that a major donor
> gains a limited voice on the Board, particularly when the donor can offer
> expertise and connections in addition to funding. It also serves as a more
> plausible explanation for Halprin's appointment
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