Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia creator Jimmy Walker - wikileaks

2011-09-04 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > I was mentioned in a leaked US diplomatic cable - with my name spelled > wrong! > > http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2008/11/08SANTIAGO1015.html > > Hilarious. > > --Jimbo > Dy-no-MITE! -- [[User:Ral315]] ___

[Foundation-l] FW: Call for input: Strategic planning at Wikimedia Australia

2011-07-04 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded on behalf of a non-member. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jutta von Dincklage Date: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 10:14 PM Subject: FW: Call for input: Strategic planning at Wikimedia Australia To: "foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org" < foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org>

[Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded to the list on behalf of a non-member. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jacob Franklin Date: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:39 PM Subject: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear WikiMedia, In recent weeks I have been reading abo

Re: [Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?

2011-06-19 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Risker wrote: > I'm not sure what kind of on-wiki discussions you might expect to see, > Sage. > I think he might have been going with Chris' assertation that every page was affected, which doesn't appear to be true - the template's transcluded on just under 1,0

Re: [Foundation-l] Please Block This Guy

2011-05-22 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Done. -- [[User:Ral315]] ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-22 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:07 AM, George Herbert wrote: > I would like to request that Dror be moderated on Foundation-L. This > is not an appropriate use of Foundation-L, Dror has one of the more > extensive sockpuppetry histories of any Wikipedia abuse case ( > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wik

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Philippe Beaudette wrote: > > Factually incorrect: it displayed to every reader for only 3 days. It > then > > switched (as was always planned) to logged in users only. > > Planned where and by whom? > > MZMcBride > The Board Elections committ

Re: [Foundation-l] Missing Wikipedians: An Essay

2011-02-20 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:53 PM, wrote: > I have a problem with this admin comprehending what exactly "Vandalism" > means. > In what way is the initial version "vandalism". > > If I cared enough I would suggest that re-training might be appropriate > here. > > W > The third incarnation of the ar

Re: [Foundation-l] Showing the difference between the sexes

2011-02-13 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Rather than implementing MediaWiki code that could be controversial, there's probably an easier solution that requires no code: - Add a pseudo-namespace (such as the WP: prefix on Wikipedia, WN: on Wikinews, etc.) that forwards from Benutzerin to Benutzer (and the relevant User talk namespaces).

[Foundation-l] Fwd: First Call for Papers WikiSym 2011

2011-01-27 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarding to the list on behalf of a non-member. -- Forwarded message -- From: Finn Aarup Nielsen Date: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:31 PM Subject: First Call for Papers WikiSym 2011 To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org CALL FOR PAPERS - WikiSym 2011 - 7th International Symposi

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

2010-12-30 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
I think this has been brought up before, but a thought I've had: Apart from the fact that it will require a ton of work in coding, what would keep us from separating templates (and, for that matter, images) from the article text? Article text would exist by itself, and categories, templates, imag

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Project Proposal - wiki to monitor the government spending - GovSpendWatch Wiki

2010-12-15 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded to the whole list on behalf of a non-member. -- Forwarded message -- From: gps Date: Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:36 AM Subject: Project Proposal - wiki to monitor the government spending - GovSpendWatch Wiki To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello, One of the bigge

Re: [Foundation-l] Lead by example

2010-12-10 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > I forgot at least one of the rules (probably more) of this list, and > (almost) always addressed my comments to the person who made the > comment. The exchange went well, was mostly good humored, but that's > not how things are suppo

Re: [Foundation-l] Accuracy required

2010-12-09 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
FT2, Please let it go - I talked with Virgilio off-list yesterday; it sounds like he didn't mean to stir up a storm, and would rather this thread die. Thanks, Ryan On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:23 PM, FT2 wrote: > That won't help much. > > If I understand your email correctly, you want the informat

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderation (was: should not web server logs (of requests) be published?)

2010-12-02 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:13 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > I watched that thread spiral out of control and I think the mods did > the right thing. > > Is Will off moderation now? > At the moment he remains on moderation, and I'm discussing the matter with Austin and Alexandr. Last year, Will was

[Foundation-l] Moderation (was: should not web server logs (of requests) be published?)

2010-11-30 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Spinning off the moderation discussion to its own thread. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:45 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > The phrase you're looking for is, "An ounce of prevention is a pound of > cure." Either be an active part of this mailing list and moderate as > appropriate or give up the damn post alre

Re: [Foundation-l] Ring of Gyges

2010-11-30 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:26 PM, David Gerard wrote: > For added self-referentiality, you can't read this article unless you > identify yourself to the NYT. > I was able to read the article without registering - it's worth noting that the NY Times has a rather interesting version of a paywall, w

Re: [Foundation-l] should not web server logs (of requests) be published?

2010-11-30 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Enough, everyone. I don't think anyone knows what the hell this conversation is about anymore. I certainly don't. WJhonson is on moderation for the time being. -- [[User:Ral315]] ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscr

[Foundation-l] Moderation (was: Liu Xiaobo)

2010-10-10 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Nathan wrote: > I agree that Peter's post exaggerates the problem the English > Wikipedia sometimes has with groupthink and an entrenched, > self-perpetuating bureaucracy. The comparison is unfair to Liu > Xiaobo's history and work. > > Still, it's ironic that the

Re: [Foundation-l] Liu Xiaobo

2010-10-08 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Noein wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I think it is not fair to censor Peter and then still talk about him and > what he said. One or the other can be justified (and should be), but not > both at the same time. > While Peter's intent s

[Foundation-l] New list moderator

2010-10-05 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
I'd like to welcome a new list moderator, AlexandrDmitri, to join myself and Austin Hair. Alexandr is an administrator on the English Wikipedia and English Wikinews, and serves as an arbitration clerk on the English Wikipedia. Please welcome him to the list. Thanks, Ryan Lomonaco (R

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > We would be better off with more people working > seriously to figure out the best answers to the issues this feature > addresses, plus whatever issues there may be with the feature itself, > rather than having a debating duel about the signif

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Risker wrote: > And even with it just being put forward as a second trial, the support for > continuing dropped 10% in two weeks. > > You're losing the hearts and minds battle here, guys. > > Risker/Anne > I haven't followed the discussion at all, but I have two

Re: [Foundation-l] Applications for list moderator position

2010-09-22 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
projects (e.g. administrator, WikiProject coordinator, mediator, etc.) - Anything else that might be useful - info about yourself, etc. Again, please send your submissions no later than 23:59 UTC on September 23rd. Thanks, Austin Hair, list moderator Ryan Lomonaco, list moderator

[Foundation-l] Applications for list moderator position

2010-09-15 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
list moderator Ryan Lomonaco, list moderator ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Kafkaesque story on the English Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded to the list on behalf of a non-member. As per usual, I have no opinion on the matter; just forwarding it on. -- Forwarded message -- From: Seventy Nine Date: Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:00 AM Subject: Kafkaesque story on the English Wikipedia To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wik

Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-22 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded to the list on behalf of a non-member (Mstislavl). In reality the "Border Control Philosophy" has nothing to do with criticism of the project or administration. This is a Rissian version of what Jimbo said after blocking some trolls in the English Wikiversity: Strong community do

Re: [Foundation-l] Private Wiki

2010-07-22 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:33 AM, David Gerard wrote: > I've found a shared Google Doc surprisingly usable in practice. (Even > shows changes in slightly-behind-real-time!) Lacks history, though. > Google Docs generally do have history, although I don't find it as useful as MediaWiki's history fu

Re: [Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"

2010-07-02 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
As Andrew pointed out, this discussion has spiraled entirely outside the scope of this list. Discussions on the effects of copyright law with regard to Wikimedia and its projects are welcome. General discussions on copyright law and piracy that have little to do with Wikimedia should be taken els

[Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..."

2010-06-17 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded per request. -- Forwarded message -- From: Joseph Reagle Date: Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..." To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org On Thursday, June 17, 2010, phoebe ayers wrote: > Actually, the other

[Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for the past five days or so. It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l. I don't know what if any work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, yo

[Foundation-l] Usability: page weight

2010-06-15 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded. -- Forwarded message -- From: Yann Forget Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:57 AM Subject: Usability: page weight To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello, While we are talking about usability issues, I would like to mention an issue which was not mentioned up to

[Foundation-l] Fwd: change of registered TMs in Persian wikipedia

2010-06-09 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded on behalf of a non-list-member. The question pertains to translation of trademarks within articles; to my knowledge, there's nothing wrong with us doing so, and I think this is done in many Wikipedias. But I'll defer to the list on this question. -- Forwarded message --

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Visual impairment

2010-05-16 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Create an account is helpful, but it's a shame we make visually impaired editors jump through another hoop. I would be interested in seeing an audio captcha option. Does such a thing already exist in open source form? [Sorry if this is a top post - on my phone right now] On 5/15/10, K. Peachey

Re: [Foundation-l] [OT] Am I the only one...

2010-05-09 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Aphaia wrote: > Is there any option to tell them commons has its own mailing list > instead of adding it to the foundation-l? > I think Austin touched upon this as well, but, yes, I would remind everyone that discussions are occurring now on Meta, Commons and the

Re: [Foundation-l] [OT] Am I the only one...

2010-05-09 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:50 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > I do to, depending on how they are applied, for example I would much > prefer on a case by case basis compared to everyone, since a few > people are bring active and decent discussion where as some people are > just trolling/omg censorship is ba

[Foundation-l] Post limits (was: Flagged Protection update for April 29)

2010-05-01 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Nathan wrote: > Can anyone remind me what the per day and per month post limits are, > and confirm that someone is still keeping track? > > We've established in the past that a collegial atmosphere is desired > by the people who post to and read this list. Some h

Re: [Foundation-l] Productive output of English Wikiversity

2010-04-08 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded on behalf of a non-list-member. -Ryan -- Forwarded message -- From: darklama Date: Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:45 PM Subject: Productive output of English Wikiversity To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org, wikiversit...@lists.wikimedia.org Tue Apr 6 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dav

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Living Person Task Force update: Policy writing

2010-03-14 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded per request. -- Forwarded message -- From: Keegan Paul Date: Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:45 PM Subject: Living Person Task Force update: Policy writing To: English Wikipedia , foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello, everyone! The Living people task force is churning

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikibooks

2010-03-06 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded as per request. -Ryan -- Forwarded message -- From: darklama Date: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM Subject: Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikibooks To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Pharos wrote: > A multilingual Wikibooks would be valuable to the

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Next IRC hours for the Living People Task Force

2010-03-06 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded as per request. -Ryan -- Forwarded message -- From: Keegan Paul Date: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM Subject: Next IRC hours for the Living People Task Force To: English Wikipedia , foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello, all. The next IRC hours will begin at 4:00

[Foundation-l] Living People Task Force is launching Monday

2010-02-06 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded/cross-posted from WikiEN-l on behalf of Keegan, a non-member. --- Hello, all. The Living People task force begins work Monday with part one, board recommendations and proposal. This will run for two months, with the second half beginning in April on community focus. This is a

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiMobile - use of Wikipedia name in commerce

2010-01-08 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Gregory Kohs wrote: > Pardon me if this has been asked before, but I am curious to learn > whether Bonfire Media paid any sort of licensing fee to the Wikimedia > Foundation in order to use the Wikipedia brand name in commerce on its > WikiMobile app? > Looking a

[Foundation-l] An update on localisation in MediaWiki (2009)

2010-01-03 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded to the list on behalf of Siebrand Mazeland. On 31 December 2007 and 1 January 2008 I sent an e-mail to which this is a follow up[1,2]. First things first, because not everyone reads e-mails completely: * MediaWiki localisation (that is the translation of English source messages to

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-17 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Kwan Ting Chan wrote: > Local celebrities for next time. "Simon Cowell says: Donate to >> Wikipedia or I'll put out *two* X-Factor singles for Christmas. I warn >> you." >> > > > There has been two X-factor singles. One from the winner, and one from all > the fina

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-14 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Geni's referring to a fundraiser sitenotice with a picture of Craig Newmark, and the text "Craig of Craigslist urges you to support Wikipedia. Why?" On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > care to give some context to your question? > > [[witty lama]] > > wittylama.com/blog > Peac

Re: [Foundation-l] Housekeeping: One user on moderation today

2009-11-30 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > Ryan Lomonaco wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Geoffrey Plourde >wrote: > > > >> Another possibility would be imposing a throttle on replies > >> to threads, e.g. 5 per thread per day. > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Housekeeping: One user on moderation today

2009-11-30 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > I really hated the idea of posting limits at first, but must commend the > list mods for implementing it. Now that there is a specific cost to replies, > I have scaled back on the amount of emails I have sent and prioritized based > on dis

[Foundation-l] Housekeeping: One user on moderation today

2009-11-29 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
(until about Midnight UTC, or whenever one of us happens to be at a computer around that time). Continued input on these policies, either publicly or privately, is always welcome. Thanks, Ryan Lomonaco ___ foundation-l mailing list founda

Re: [Foundation-l] Follow up: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-29 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Laura, > > It seems unlikely if only based on "We have no notability requirement." > Essentially, you've forked, chosen an incompatible core policy. > I don't see how that would be an issue. Notability is not a foundation policy, it's a comm

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not bureaucracy, said bureaucrat and deleted...

2009-11-27 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:41 AM, wrote: > But George you miss part of my point. > IF editors know their way around somewhat, they *could* fight an undeserved > block or reprimand or whatever. > > But what you're saying here is exactly what I'm pointing out that we do not > want. > Encyclopedist

Re: [Foundation-l] Everything okay?

2009-11-17 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Dennis During wrote: > I'm guessing that the habit has been broken. It will probably come back. > I think you're right, particularly given that foundation-l was closed for nearly a week. Participants have been posting to other lists, or keeping discussion on Me

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation-l open for business, with changes

2009-11-14 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: > > Good idea. Is the number of posts from any one contributor easy to > keep track of? > Erik Zachte has some stats here that seem to update fairly regularly: http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/foundation-l.html You can also see all

[Foundation-l] Foundation-l open for business, with changes

2009-11-13 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
erated. We welcome your thoughts on this issue. Sincerely, Austin Hair Ryan Lomonaco ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] List moderation - update

2009-11-11 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
intend to unmoderate the list only for topics to devolve into the same inane arguments that have at times occurred. Our hope is that we can find a good solution that addresses the issues in a complete and fair manner. Sincerely, Austin Hair Ryan Lomonaco

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Have you dealt with this Systemic Secretive Checkuser Abuse yet? If so, how?

2009-10-26 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
you dealt with this Systemic Secretive Checkuser Abuse yet? If so, how? To: Ryan Lomonaco Cc: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Ryan, It is 2 simple but important issues: the supportive details are all included in this email. Here is the current and past practice in a nutshell as expressed by

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving foundation-l

2009-10-01 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
If there's a legitimate agreement as to what should be done to improve the list, I'd be more than happy to try it out, and I think Austin would be willing to as well. I don't see any agreement on what to do at the moment. There are four potential problems cited on that page. The first three were

Re: [Foundation-l] How was the "only people who averaged two edits a week in the last six months can vote" rule decided?

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
I have no opinion on whether the rule should exist, but it is something that deserves to be looked at. There are valid reasons for requiring a minimum recent edit count, of course, but perhaps there are better ways to handle it. The rules did disenfranchise me, for example. It doesn't bother me

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-12-02 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Aphaia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Rand said: > >Phase 2 notices will go live the week of December 1st...pending the time > needed by our >volunteer translators and the tech team. > > Besides all the discussion on possible rephrasing, Phase 2 notices > seem