> From: SlimVirgin
> If PediaPress's software is open-source the Foundation
> surely wouldn't
> need to buy it. This is what I'm finding confusing, and
> that's partly
> because of my lack of technical knowledge. But as I see it
> Wikimedia
> has developers, paid and unpaid, lots of people who are
Let me jump in since I was the one who moved it.
At the end of the 2009 Fundraiser we were getting hit by a significant amount
of fraudulent transactions. It got so bad that the WMF had to dedicate full
time staff members to respond to the massive amount of email and phone calls we
were gettin
On 11/13/10, phoebe ayers wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:05 AM, David Gerard wrote:
>> On 12 November 2010 17:34, Anthony wrote:
>>
>>> These are all questions which would have to be answered before WMF
>>> should even consider getting involved. To cover itself legally it
>>> should have t
Interesting. users/developers comment on the inclusion of reCATCHPA
within the fund-raising[1] code since other projects have been they can't
utilize its services then ~two weeks later (which isn't all that long in wmf
time) its project documentation is moved off wiki (mw wiki) into the
office[
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Philippe Beaudette
wrote:
> In the last 22 hours, we've accepted about $510,000 directly to the
> Foundation. I don't yet have numbers from the chapters to report. The
> Foundation's donors alone represent nearly 19,000 individual donors.
My congratulations to
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:04 PM, wrote:
> In a message dated 11/13/2010 11:08:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> magnusman...@googlemail.com writes:
>
>
>> 1. Given the limited of number services (one, plus Robert's which I
>> missed in the thread, if it still exists), it probably seemed
>> pointles
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On 13/11/2010 19:14, phoebe ayers wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:51 PM, SlimVirgin wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:59, Ting Chen wrote:
>>> I know that also this example is not without flaw, as comparisons always
>>> are. What I want to say
On 11/13/2010 03:17 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> On 11/13/10 12:25 PM, Robert S. Horning wrote:
>
>> Much of what I was trying to get started was covered on this very
>> mailing list. If you go into the archives and look up Wikijunior to see
>> some of the efforts that were made, including some i
Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> On 11/13/10 12:25 PM, Robert S. Horning wrote:
>> Much of what I was trying to get started was covered on this very
>> mailing list. If you go into the archives and look up Wikijunior to see
>> some of the efforts that were made, including some initial publications
>> that we
In a message dated 11/13/2010 11:08:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
magnusman...@googlemail.com writes:
> 1. Given the limited of number services (one, plus Robert's which I
> missed in the thread, if it still exists), it probably seemed
> pointless
> 2. Any service would have to develop the approp
Andrew Garrett wrote:
> Shockingly, making decisions like this does not necessarily involve
> reasoning, but judgement. Yes, the answers are not simple and logical
> because you have to weigh the costs against the benefits.
I was focusing more on who the "you" was and who said so. Apologies if t
It's pretty obvious that there are some back-justifications being made for a
blatantly imperfect decision. There are both real strengths and benefits to
the decision (making print copies easily accessible) as well as deep flaws
(promoting an exclusive relationship with a for-profit company).
It wo
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On 13/11/2010 18:10, Michael Snow wrote:
> Let me ask this question. Suppose the Wikimedia Foundation were to buy
> PediaPress from Brainbot, including whatever intellectual property is
> associated with its service such as the LaTeX export. If Wikim
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On 13/11/2010 17:51, SlimVirgin wrote:
> I understand exactly what you're saying, Ting, and I appreciate your
> thoughtful response. I suppose my reaction is an emotional one, but
> I'd argue no less valid for that. It's that much of the content of
> W
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Michael Snow wrote:
> Let me ask this question. Suppose the Wikimedia Foundation were to buy
> PediaPress from Brainbot, including whatever intellectual property is
> associated with its service such as the LaTeX export. If Wikimedia did
> this and brought the ser
On 11/13/10 12:25 PM, Robert S. Horning wrote:
> Much of what I was trying to get started was covered on this very
> mailing list. If you go into the archives and look up Wikijunior to see
> some of the efforts that were made, including some initial publications
> that were made through Lulu (that
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:51 PM, SlimVirgin wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:59, Ting Chen wrote:
>> I know that also this example is not without flaw, as comparisons always
>> are. What I want to say is, if a company can provide us a service that
>> we really desperately need and we cannot g
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 00:03, Mohamed Magdy wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> > Our family has got new projects:
> >
>
> > * Wikinews in Esperanto: http://eo.wikinews.org/
> >
> This project is a joke, are there really people who are going to read
> news in Esper
Me points people towards:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/newprojects (archives:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/newprojects/).
-Peachey
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On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Our family has got new projects:
>
> * Wikinews in Esperanto: http://eo.wikinews.org/
>
This project is a joke, are there really people who are going to read
news in Esperanto?
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On 13/11/2010 17:25, Robert S. Horning wrote:
> Much of what I was trying to get started was covered on this very
> mailing list. If you go into the archives and look up Wikijunior to see
> some of the efforts that were made, including some initial
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On 13/11/2010 16:59, Ting Chen wrote:
> I searched a little on meta and the oldest thing I found related to this
> is from the Foundation Report of January 2008 [1]. So I cannot tell you
> how the contract came into being. As you know, the Foundation
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Our family has got new projects:
>
> * Wikipedia in Gagauz: http://gag.wikipedia.org/
> * Wikisource in Venetian: http://vec.wikisource.org
> * Wikisource in Breton: http://br.wikisource.org/
> * Wikibooks in Limburgish: http://li.wikibooks.or
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 15:10, Michael Snow wrote:
> Let me ask this question. Suppose the Wikimedia Foundation were to buy
> PediaPress from Brainbot, including whatever intellectual property is
> associated with its service such as the LaTeX export. If Wikimedia did
> this and brought the servic
Let me ask this question. Suppose the Wikimedia Foundation were to buy
PediaPress from Brainbot, including whatever intellectual property is
associated with its service such as the LaTeX export. If Wikimedia did
this and brought the service in-house, assuming the LaTeX export is
released as ope
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:59, Ting Chen wrote:
> I know that also this example is not without flaw, as comparisons always
> are. What I want to say is, if a company can provide us a service that
> we really desperately need and we cannot get elsewhere, and it shares
> the same value as we are, I
meanwhile in the foundation mailing list...
2010/11/13 Robert S. Horning
> On 11/13/2010 12:06 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 19:56, Michael Peel wrote:
> >
> >> Fantastic. :-) Semantic issue: these aren't new projects, they're new
> language versions of existing projects.
On 11/13/2010 12:06 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 19:56, Michael Peel wrote:
>
>> Fantastic. :-) Semantic issue: these aren't new projects, they're new
>> language versions of existing projects. We haven't had a new project since
>> 2007.
>>
> Hm. In my perception,
On 11/13/2010 11:08 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> What's the URL for Robert's service? I would love to try it out. If the
> service isn't mature yet, is there a code repository somewhere?
>
> Ryan Kaldari
>
>
Much of what I was trying to get started was covered on this very
mailing list. If you g
Hello Sarah,
I searched a little on meta and the oldest thing I found related to this
is from the Foundation Report of January 2008 [1]. So I cannot tell you
how the contract came into being. As you know, the Foundation moved in
the spring of 2008 from Florida to San Francisco and rebuilt itsel
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:16 PM, wrote:
> In a message dated 11/13/2010 9:53:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> magnusman...@googlemail.com writes:
>
>
>> I'm all for that. But, did anyone actually ask the Foundation to have
>> his button included there (besides spammers et al.)? It's not like an
>>
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 19:56, Michael Peel wrote:
> Fantastic. :-) Semantic issue: these aren't new projects, they're new
> language versions of existing projects. We haven't had a new project since
> 2007.
Hm. In my perception, term "project" has two meanings: "separate
project, language edit
Fantastic. :-) Semantic issue: these aren't new projects, they're new language
versions of existing projects. We haven't had a new project since 2007.
Mike
On 13 Nov 2010, at 18:51, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Our family has got new projects:
>
> * Wikipedia in Gagauz: http://gag.wikipedia.org/
> *
Our family has got new projects:
* Wikipedia in Gagauz: http://gag.wikipedia.org/
* Wikisource in Venetian: http://vec.wikisource.org
* Wikisource in Breton: http://br.wikisource.org/
* Wikibooks in Limburgish: http://li.wikibooks.org/
* Wikinews in Esperanto: http://eo.wikinews.org/
In a message dated 11/13/2010 9:53:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
magnusman...@googlemail.com writes:
> I'm all for that. But, did anyone actually ask the Foundation to have
> his button included there (besides spammers et al.)? It's not like an
> email is hard to write...
>
Why should *this* be
What's the URL for Robert's service? I would love to try it out. If the
service isn't mature yet, is there a code repository somewhere?
Ryan Kaldari
On 11/13/10 10:00 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 13 November 2010 17:53, Magnus Manske wrote:
>
>
>> I'm all for that. But, did anyone actually
On 13 November 2010 17:53, Magnus Manske wrote:
> I'm all for that. But, did anyone actually ask the Foundation to have
> his button included there (besides spammers et al.)? It's not like an
> email is hard to write...
Robert Horning has noted in this very thread:
===
Based upon my own experi
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:18 PM, wrote:
> In a message dated 11/13/2010 6:44:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> magnusman...@googlemail.com writes:
>
>
>> And if you can find some other publishing entity (printing, DVDs,
>> etc.) that could be used interchangeably for the PediaPress button,
>> and th
In a message dated 11/13/2010 6:44:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,
magnusman...@googlemail.com writes:
> And if you can find some other publishing entity (printing, DVDs,
> etc.) that could be used interchangeably for the PediaPress button,
> and this entity is denied a button next to the PediaPres
Almost 22 hours ago, we turned on the 2010-11 contribution campaign for a
weekend of functional testing prior to launch.
We launched cleanly, I'm pleased to say - there were a few initial hiccups
(around the size of the graphic used in the banner, and our ability to pull
numbers out of the dat
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Robert S. Horning
wrote:
> On 11/12/2010 10:05 AM, Magnus Manske wrote:
>> Wikimedia policy is to use only free software, at least on the
>> "customer-facing" side. That includes the PDF-generation process,
>> which runs on our servers AFAIK.
>>
>> Requiring this f
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 1:16 AM, geni wrote:
> On 12 November 2010 19:30, Anthony wrote:
>> "Geni" mentioned "offering a level of support equivalent to our
>> smaller projects", which is most definitely *not* "just providing ISP
>> services".
>
> err beyond ISP services what do you think the WMF
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:55 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> The problem I have with statements like these is that they feel
> disingenuous. The mission statement is as vague or as specific as the person
> arguing deems it to be. There are thousands of potential projects that
> Wikimedia could engage in th
On 13 November 2010 07:24, Keegan Peterzell wrote:
> We did that with Uncyclopedia. Wikimedia hosted it until Wikia was formed.
> And we're talking Uncyclopedia here. It's satirical value had...value.
> Not quite as funny anymore.
Uh, what? Not that I'm aware of. AIUI it started on Chronari
On 11/12/2010 10:05 AM, Magnus Manske wrote:
> Wikimedia policy is to use only free software, at least on the
> "customer-facing" side. That includes the PDF-generation process,
> which runs on our servers AFAIK.
>
> Requiring this from sites we (in essence) link to seems excessive. We
> link to Go
On 11/12/2010 10:02 AM, phoebe ayers wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:47 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
>
>
>> I also don't understand who would want a printed copy of a Wikipedia
>> article. It seems antithetical to the point of the Internet and the creation
>> of an online encyclopedia.
>>
>
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