Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-09 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/9/12 8:52 AM, "Doug Arthur" wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM, David Francis Buhler > wrote: >> I propose a new thread where we aggregate a proposed list of changes to the >> html-template (or templates). > > Can we get past the IP issues by creating our own template, from > groun

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-09 Thread Doug Arthur
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM, David Francis Buhler wrote: > I propose a new thread where we aggregate a proposed list of changes to the > html-template (or templates). Can we get past the IP issues by creating our own template, from ground up? Or what is the expected time-frame on getting it cl

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-09 Thread David Francis Buhler
I propose a new thread where we aggregate a proposed list of changes to the html-template (or templates). On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 3/8/12 3:15 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Slightly off the original topic so apologies in advance. > > > > I beli

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/8/12 3:15 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > Hi, > > Slightly off the original topic so apologies in advance. > > I believe a requirement of the graduation process is also to have an open > community that can discuss (and submit) changes. I don't believe we can > graduate right away once the

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Slightly off the original topic so apologies in advance. > For me and the incubator folks who will have to clear these changes before > we can graduate. I believe a requirement of the graduation process is also to have an open community that can discuss (and submit) changes. I don't believe

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/8/12 2:41 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > Hi, > >> I had not realized the templates had not been donated in the first dump. >> One concern I have is that they use SWFObject so there is an external >> dependency there. > SWFObject is MIT (Category A licence) so should be no issues there. I'm

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I had not realized the templates had not been donated in the first dump. > One concern I have is that they use SWFObject so there is an external > dependency there. SWFObject is MIT (Category A licence) so should be no issues there. > IMHO, you are making more work by mucking with the tem

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Daniel Reicher
> > > I had not realized the templates had not been donated in the first dump. > One concern I have is that they use SWFObject so there is an external > dependency there. > > The swfobject.js file in the SDK is identical to the one on google code [1] with an MIT license. [1] http://code.google.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/8/12 1:40 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > Hi Alex, > >> OK, but keep in mind that any line of code or entire files can be removed >> before Adobe donates it if legal requires it. > Understand. > > We are talking about a fairly simple HTML file here - about 20 lines of real > "code" once y

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi Alex, > OK, but keep in mind that any line of code or entire files can be removed > before Adobe donates it if legal requires it. Understand. We are talking about a fairly simple HTML file here - about 20 lines of real "code" once you remove the formatting and comments. I can't see any chang

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/8/12 12:35 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > Hi, > >> Apache Flex cannot have this file checked in until it is cleared by Adobe. > Sure but that doesn't stop anyone working on a patch to be applied after it > has been checked in. OK, but keep in mind that any line of code or entire files can

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Apache Flex cannot have this file checked in until it is cleared by Adobe. Sure but that doesn't stop anyone working on a patch to be applied after it has been checked in. > If we're going to only have one template, it should support IE7. IE7 while having no direct support for the HTML5 do

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/8/12 9:29 AM, "Igor Costa" wrote: > Thanks for the feedback folks. > > This much appreciate. I guess chaning in the SDK and be IDE agnostic, not > only be part of any third-party IDE, due to creating partnership or any > relation with companies IDE will will break the model of Apache ope

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Igor Costa
Thanks for the feedback folks. This much appreciate. I guess chaning in the SDK and be IDE agnostic, not only be part of any third-party IDE, due to creating partnership or any relation with companies IDE will will break the model of Apache open-source. We could use the index.template.html from t

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/7/12 11:48 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > Hi, > >> Why not substitute the to HTML 5 syntax format, once we have the benefit of >> utf-8 by default and some missing other tags. > Good idea. I don't see why we shouldn't update the HTML template to be more > modern. > > It would be a simple

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Why not substitute the to HTML 5 syntax format, once we have the benefit of > utf-8 by default and some missing other tags. Good idea. I don't see why we shouldn't update the HTML template to be more modern. It would be a simple matter to give it a HTML5 doctype and the possibly one or tw

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-07 Thread Tony Constantinides
I love the idea! On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Igor Costa wrote: > One of aspect that didn't like too much on the SDK by default is > the ability to warp the swf in a swf Object manner . > > Fact is if you want to write up your own, you have to digg into template > and make it clear by it own

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-07 Thread Doug Arthur
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > It'd be nice to have, but that's really an IDE feature, no? > > -omar Probably so, and maybe we should be considering IDE features. We can release a plugin in eclipse, or work with IntelliJ to fit these features in. I think it's our task to m

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-07 Thread Omar Gonzalez
> > I agree, the generated HTML is just for initial development, and then > not even really for me. It's only used in my testbed projects. But, to > Igor's point, maybe incorporating a way to specify a template or some > sort would be nice to have. > - Doug > It'd be nice to have, but that's reall

Re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-07 Thread Doug Arthur
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Rui Silva wrote: > Igor, what you really mean is wrap or wrapper, isn't it? > > I've never used the generated HTML in final production. I always take the > generated swf(s) and use my own HTML templates (which usually include a bunch > of other stuff not really r

re: [PROPOSAL] html template

2012-03-07 Thread Rui Silva
Igor, what you really mean is wrap or wrapper, isn't it? Evolving the HTML template is a good idea, I think and keeping it in sync with current trends does show how much we respect the web standards. However, I'm not sure about the rest of the group, but I've never used the generated HTML in fi