Re: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey - Gravity

2012-08-06 Thread John Fletcher
Why did they give it two names? Why not just call it CCF? This isn't a new OS release. The "Gravity" name is a bit unfortunate as Granite DS message push framework is also called Gravity (and has been for years). So now we have two Gravities in Flex. John 2012/8/3 Keith Sutton : > There have be

Re: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey

2012-08-06 Thread John Fletcher
Agree with the idea of not using the term "roadmap". Since actually, what we are talking about is not a roadmap at all in the conventional sense, and is much better described with the title you mention below Keith. In this sense it might be apropriate for the actual Flex site - but then you would d

Re: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey

2012-08-03 Thread John Fletcher
If Spoon have organisation and/or heirarchy, and Apache accepts contribution from anyone, then it might be simple: the Spoon Foundation creates a Spoon Roadmap - what they hope to deliver to Flex and when. They can post it on their Spoon.as website. Those that want to be part of an organised/guided

Re: Suggestion : Adopt a package manager like Ruby Gems for Flex as a first class citizen of the SDK

2012-07-13 Thread John Fletcher
2012/7/12 Jeffry Houser : > It does not affect my point. But, as I understood it; most people use Ruby > today for the server-side of a web site (or other application). Probably true. It's most commonly used with Rails, which is a server-side framework built on top of Ruby. > I can > install an

Re: Suggestion : Adopt a package manager like Ruby Gems for Flex as a first class citizen of the SDK

2012-07-12 Thread John Fletcher
2012/7/10 Jeffry Houser : > Unless I'm mistaken the original request was to integrate > http://projectsprouts.org/ into the Flex SDK. And someone else stated that > Project Sprouts has a Ruby Dependency, which seems to be true based on the > web site. I have strong reservations about adding some

Re: Suggestion : Adopt a package manager like Ruby Gems for Flex as a first class citizen of the SDK

2012-07-10 Thread John Fletcher
2012/7/10 Gary McGhee : > Now that Flex has been handed to the community, would it be possible to > consider properly adopting Sprouts as a core part of the SDK? I like the idea but this is kind of a barrier to entry (from the front page): "To get started with Project Sprouts and Flash developmen

Re: Problem with native air

2012-07-03 Thread John Fletcher
The official Flash Player roadmap http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html as of June 28 says "Adobe continues to actively invest in enabling developers to create and deploy Flash based content as mobile (and desktop) applications via Adobe AIR." If this is not in fact th

Re: [DISCUSS] New website content

2012-07-02 Thread John Fletcher
Hi guys, Not sure if you're wanting comments right now but the logo up the top-left has the bottom few pixels cut off in both they jpg and html version. Regards, John 2012/7/2 Ashish Desai : > Here is the preview of the first page built in HTML. > > http://showcase.zootar.com > > Tom, I have cre

GitHub SVN relation

2012-06-22 Thread John Fletcher
Hi, I saw this in another thread "Fork and clone the SDK from github (or checkout from svn if you're a masochist) at: https://github.com/apache/flex";. What is the relation of github to SVN? I see that SVN changes are synced to github, but what about the other way? I assumed this would only be one

What is on-topic? Was: Painful story...

2012-06-18 Thread John Fletcher
2012/6/15 Jeffry Houser : > >  I don't believe I was being unfriendly.  This is mailing list explicitly > related to building the Apache Flex SDK.  Your experiences / pains on > building HTML apps has no place here. +1 Jeffry. No-one is trying to attack the OP nor the ensuing participants in the

Re: Website designs

2012-05-29 Thread John Fletcher
In defence of the second designer... I think they are both great :-) John

Re: blazeds

2012-05-24 Thread John Fletcher
2012/5/24 Michael Montoya > GraniteDS is as very valid replacement for BlazeDS in case you are looking > for alternatives. > GraniteDS is more feature-complete than BlazeDS. It's more like Livecycle. It's worth questioning whether BlazeDS should really be integrated into Flex, as going forward G

Re: Angular JS ( Finally the JS project that comes close to Flex! ).

2012-04-26 Thread John Fletcher
good summary of such frameworks http://codebrief.com/2012/01/the-top-10-javascript-mvc-frameworks-reviewed/ El 26 de abril de 2012 09:31, Cosma Colanicchia escribió: > AngularJS is really, really interesting, thanks for the tip. > > > > 2012/4/26 James Ong : > > @Igor, Angular and Knockout are in

Re: [Wiki] Code conventions

2012-03-12 Thread John Fletcher
Once you modify a piece of writing enough, it's legally a separate work isn't it? John

Re: Mailing list footers?

2012-03-07 Thread John Fletcher
What is the purpose of the first link? Somebody that has no idea what Flex is, stumbles across the mailing list archives, his only way forward is via that link, he follows it and becomes an avid Flex developer? Sounds a bit far-fetched. In reality such a person would just google "Flex". The second

Re: referencing JIRA issues in code

2012-02-27 Thread John Fletcher
I agree on no bug numbers. Except I think it's valid in a temporary comment where you have a hack because you are awaiting a fix in another issue. Like "We have to check for null here due to a bug in Label - see FLEX-99" John

Re: Flex -> HTML, Linux and time to say goodbye?

2012-02-27 Thread John Fletcher
2012/2/27 David Arno > As the topic of targeting HTML5 has been raised numerous times > here, I figured it was time to start thinking in detail about how we might > do this. > > In doing this though, I started to question whether there was any really > point to it. > > I think the argument abou

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-20) The Max value restriction in Spark NumericStepper doesn't work properly

2012-02-27 Thread John Fletcher (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-20?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13217219#comment-13217219 ] John Fletcher commented on FLEX-20: --- Haykel, I could give you some reasons, but I w

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-20) The Max value restriction in Spark NumericStepper doesn't work properly

2012-02-27 Thread John Fletcher (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-20?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13217133#comment-13217133 ] John Fletcher commented on FLEX-20: --- Basically the if statement should read

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-20) The Max value restriction in Spark NumericStepper doesn't work properly

2012-02-27 Thread John Fletcher (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-20?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13217131#comment-13217131 ] John Fletcher commented on FLEX-20: --- Pierangelo, I've had a look at your patc

Re: [LAZY] Commit en_AU and en_GB locales to SVN

2012-02-23 Thread John Fletcher
2012/2/23 Justin Mclean > For instance I was amused by this (it occurs multiple times): > > Heh heh, perfect example of why code comments need to be well thought out, and in particular why redundant comments should be avoided. What does the coment add to the code here (that is, if the comment we

Re: Other locales for Flex SDK

2012-02-20 Thread John Fletcher
May I suggest that we just commit the GB version with a "best effort" format, then go on to look for a all-encompasing solution. The fact that no GB version exists yet is quite incredible. John 2012/2/14 David Arno > > From: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com] > > Sent: 14 February 2

Two-colour logo

2012-02-06 Thread John Fletcher
What a fantastic job from the team at Fuse Collective, and all for free! Thankyou. I'd like to remind everyone that there was an original requirement for a two-colour logo - it would be good to see this. Maybe we could vote on it? (just kidding). John

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

2012-02-06 Thread John Fletcher
2012/2/5 Stephane Beladaci > Apple does not push HTML5 because it is better, they push it because it > does not exists > > > Haha this is so true.

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-06 Thread John Fletcher
2012/2/4 Carlos Rovira > Normaly people use to solve in The backend layer. > I need to print pages containing a combination of charts with legends and other components. Backend is therefore not an option. We got there, but it was a nightmare and the current code just feels so hacked up. I think p

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo - final tweaks

2012-01-30 Thread John Fletcher
2012/1/27 Bertrand Delacretaz > > > > Prefer the bigger Flex and smaller Apache. .. > > Same here, but IMO the logo should read "Apache Flex" and not "Flex > Apache" - the leftmost one at > http://www.fusecollective.com/apache-flex/apache-flex-fusecollective_v2.jpg > reads "Flex Apache" to me. > >

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-25 Thread John Fletcher
2012/1/24 Remi P > Just to say that I do not agree with the idea that #49 includes something > negative, I think just the opposite > Clearly, some people initially see something negative such as a fallen "F", and some don't. However think about all those people that are so keen to put down Flex

Re: [Discuss] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread John Fletcher
Doug, I feel it's very important to consider the possible interpretations of the logo as listed previously in this thread. However I think it's shortsighted to influence the choice of a logo for years to come with news that probably won't outlast this month. By the way, +1 to #42 John 2012/1/24

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread John Fletcher
2012/1/24 Cedric Muller usa...@benga.li > Best for Apache Flex ? Take the logos that were selected, or go the NO > LOGO way. Bring it to the next level people. No logo whatever. NO LOGO - I like it. Just like "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince", we could take the Adobe flex logo and just print

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

2012-01-24 Thread John Fletcher
I'm neutral to the proposal. However I'd like to clarify something which some seem to have misunderstood: the proposal is to configure the list server to add this tag to the subject line automatically. No-one writing mails to the list would have to do anything different. John 2012/1/23 Neil (mail

Re: [LOGO CONTEST] Tallying the votes

2012-01-19 Thread John Fletcher
Simple: Votes where all 5 points are allocated to one logo shall be ignored since they violate the rules. Obviously if the person corrects his mistake during the voting period, then his corrected vote can count. In the case of a PPMC member making this mistake, oweing to his importance I would try

Re: [Logo] Kap IT proposal #2

2012-01-19 Thread John Fletcher
I also only saw the ship once someone mentioned it :-). So I don't think we have to worry about that. However I do see the F submerged in water with a sun setting behind it. It's also very pretty. I wonder what it would look like with words, rather than the F, reflecting? John 2012/1/18 Nataliy

Re: LOGO by Mike Britton

2012-01-17 Thread John Fletcher
2012/1/16 Mike Britton > Here's a sketch I did that I don't hate too much. > "I don't know much about art, but I know what I hate. And I don't hate this" - Mr Burns.

Re: Setting up a Wiki with a "who's working on what" article (Was: Spark StringValidator)

2012-01-17 Thread John Fletcher
JIRA has not just bug reports but tasks, new features, plus "assigned to" and "in progress". So it could be used for this if desired. John 2012/1/16 Nicholas Kwiatkowski > It should handle that for bugs/issues/fixes, but I don't think JIRA will > know anything about what is happening in people'

Re: JIRA instance is finally up and running!

2012-01-16 Thread John Fletcher
Please make sure you migrate the issues before you open this up to all users to lodge bugs. If not, we might suffer thousands of duplicates where people start re-logging their outstanding bugs in the new system. John 2012/1/16 Bertrand Delacretaz > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Justin Mclea

Re: [VOTE] PPMC members to decide voting procedure

2012-01-13 Thread John Fletcher
A couple of suggestions about the logo voting: 1. If you go for PMC-only voting, if possible I would recommend you use surveymonkey or some other online service to take the votes in a way that the tally cannot be seen until the end, so as not to advantage the final voters. For example,