Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread David Arno
> On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 07:56 +0100, Jarosław Szczepankiewicz wrote: > On the blog "all my circuits" are some details about how the translation is > going to happen. Surprisingly the progress is advanced already. But the > author sees holes to be filled by the flex community. Do you have a link to

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread Jarosław Szczepankiewicz
On the blog "all my circuits" are some details about how the translation is going to happen. Surprisingly the progress is advanced already. But the author sees holes to be filled by the flex community. 04-02-2012 22:17 użytkownik "David Francis Buhler" napisał: > You may wish to rephrase the ques

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Filipe Freitas
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Arnoud Bos wrote: > true, server side pdf creation is mostly used. > > but if you really want to create client side pdf's you can > also try http://code.google.com/p/purepdf/ instead of alivepdf. > didn't try it myself though, but seems more capable of alivepdf.

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Saturday, February 4, 2012, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi Omar, > >> You should check out ext.js if you haven't, they have most of the components Flex has and then some. > I looked at it some time ago and though it was ok however the more recent EJ4 does looks like a vast improvement. I'll look mor

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi Omar, > You should check out ext.js if you haven't, they have most of the components > Flex has and then some. I looked at it some time ago and though it was ok however the more recent EJ4 does looks like a vast improvement. I'll look more into it. I still have some issue with lack of tools

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread David Francis Buhler
I am just helping to put the question in context. :) On Feb 4, 2012 5:47 PM, "David Arno" wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-02-04 at 16:16 -0500, David Francis Buhler wrote: > > You may wish to rephrase the question around the FalconJS compiler and > > the capabilities of style-support within the FalconJS

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

2012-02-04 Thread Stephane Beladaci
This post is a brillant example of Apple's brain washing power! If you listen to Steve Jobs then you contribute to the spreading of a disease that will do nothing but cripple the industry. Apple does not push HTML5 because it is better, they push it because it does not exists and can easily be pate

Re: Starting with the Whiteboard Code

2012-02-04 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 05/02/2012 10:53, Omar Gonzalez wrote: Personally what I've been waiting for is the bug list and the test suite. Hard to know if we've broken something without the tests and knowing how to run them. I agree some things can be done, but I don't see how we could release them confidently. I am wo

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Martin Heidegger
Using a backend is not an available option in a AIR application or a Projector (yes, there are still use-cases where Air can not be involved). Aside that: I think this is a sad statement. The Flash Players internal printing API is powerful enough in theory for good printing - printing works in

Re: Starting with the Whiteboard Code

2012-02-04 Thread Omar Gonzalez
Personally what I've been waiting for is the bug list and the test suite. Hard to know if we've broken something without the tests and knowing how to run them. I agree some things can be done, but I don't see how we could release them confidently.

Starting with the Whiteboard Code

2012-02-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Everyone is waiting for JIRA and SVN. Is that completely necessary? SVN without the history is already available in the whiteboard. Certainly the project can start work, if changes are made to svn then it will be easy to take the diffs. The build instructions[1] can be used to create instructio

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread Omar Gonzalez
You should check out ext.js if you haven't, they have most of the components Flex has and then some. As far as performance, I don't know how they compare, but that wouldn't be the point to writing such a port. The point is that many applications will not use Flex because targetting AVM limits thei

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

2012-02-04 Thread Stephane Beladaci
We will only see the Flash Player being open sourced if Google buy Adobe, otherwise Adobe will rather kill it than letting competition benefit from it. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:05 AM, JP Bader wrote: > Jeffry's correct.  Adobe is in the business to make money.  They make > great tools because th

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, While JS performance has greatly improved over the last few years and in terms of raw number crunching tests it's probably on par with ActionScript in the very latest browsers from what I understand the display performance is not on par with Flash/Flex. Anyone have any unbiased performanc

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread jude
I agree. It should be solved. I think the best way is to get an example project that tests the different print scenarios. I spent some time working with printing and it was overly complex but eventually got it to work. If you create an example like this, http://www.judahfrangipane.com/examples/web

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread Omar Gonzalez
I see it as the most optimal way forward as well. CoffeeScript goes to JavaScript. ClojureScript goes to JavaScript. ActionScript could follow a similar path using a custom compiler. Then we'd be subject to the limitations of the JS engine, but we'd be on the targets we need to be that we currently

Status of INFRA-4380

2012-02-04 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi there, Does anyone have any news re the status of importing the JIRA bugs from Adobe. It was submitted a while ago and still marked as unassigned. Do we have an updated estimate re when the SDK framework code will be placed in SVN. Thanks, Justin

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread David Arno
On Sat, 2012-02-04 at 15:22 -0800, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > What you are proposing doesn't get you around the fact that you still have > to parse the component classes into language a target platform understands. > In other words, you can't just pawn rendering to a new target, such as the > JavaScrip

[Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread Omar Gonzalez
What you are proposing doesn't get you around the fact that you still have to parse the component classes into language a target platform understands. In other words, you can't just pawn rendering to a new target, such as the JavaScript engine, by simply expecting Spark skin classes to create DOM o

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Other choices that may not be well-known for the backend. (1) Apache POI has the ability to produce PPT and PPTX. http://poi.apache.org/ (2) Apache ODF Toolkit (incubating) will produce ODF. http://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/ Both these projects help with reading Office files as well. Re

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread David Arno
> On Sat, 2012-02-04 at 16:16 -0500, David Francis Buhler wrote: > You may wish to rephrase the question around the FalconJS compiler and > the capabilities of style-support within the FalconJS compiler when > the target is HTML5. I utterly disagree. To my mind the FalconJS compiler has a near m

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Arnoud Bos
true, server side pdf creation is mostly used. but if you really want to create client side pdf's you can also try http://code.google.com/p/purepdf/ instead of alivepdf. didn't try it myself though, but seems more capable of alivepdf. On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:21 PM, Jarosław Szczepankiewicz wrote:

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Jarosław Szczepankiewicz
Pdf from backend is superior for that 04-02-2012 23:17 użytkownik "Carlos Rovira" napisał: > Normaly people use to solve in The backend layer. > > El sábado 4 de febrero de 2012, Marcus Fritze < > marcus.fri...@googlemail.com> > escribió: > > Hi, > > > > yes printing from Flash / Flex is really a

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
Normaly people use to solve in The backend layer. El sábado 4 de febrero de 2012, Marcus Fritze escribió: > Hi, > > yes printing from Flash / Flex is really a pain. Years ago I filled 2 issues to the JIRA: > > https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FLEXDMV-2532 [Dependent] PrintAdvancedDataGrid not

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread David Francis Buhler
You may wish to rephrase the question around the FalconJS compiler and the capabilities of style-support within the FalconJS compiler when the target is HTML5. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM, David Arno wrote: > > > There has been zero responses to this technical email on how we might > progress

RE: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

2012-02-04 Thread David Arno
There has been zero responses to this technical email on how we might progress Flex in the past 24 hours. Discussions on the minutia of logos would have got 10s of response in that time. This worries me. It's great that we have an audience ready to whoop at pretty pictures, but does this list act

Re: [VOTE] final vote for logo color(s) selection

2012-02-04 Thread Doug Arthur
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > a) leftmost 4-colored logo (Binding) + 1 multi-colored logo

Re: [Discussion] [Discussion]

2012-02-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > > > Sent from my mobile device. > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Doug McCune wrote: > >> Is it really necessary to subject-tag any [Discussion] thread? > > About the only time that's necessary is when you want to discuss a vote > thread in

Re: [WTF?] final vote for logo color(s) selection

2012-02-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Bikeshedding - Parkinson's Law of Triviality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_Law_of_Triviality Regards, Dave On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Rui Silva wrote: > I have to agree with Bertrand (though I don't know what bikeshedding > means... :) ). I sense that the discussion around the l

Re: [VOTE] final vote for logo color(s) selection

2012-02-04 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 multicolor logo (binding) On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Brent Arnold wrote: > +1 multicolor logo > > Those colors reminds me too much of rainbows. I'm pretty sure Mother Nature > has the trademark on it. Best be careful. ;-) > > Brent

Re: [Discussion] [Discussion]

2012-02-04 Thread Greg Reddin
Sent from my mobile device. On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Doug McCune wrote: > Is it really necessary to subject-tag any [Discussion] thread? About the only time that's necessary is when you want to discuss a vote thread in progress. It's a good idea to fork that to a discussion thread and us

Re: [Discussion] [Discussion]

2012-02-04 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 2/4/2012 1:39 PM, Doug McCune wrote: Is it really necessary to subject-tag any [Discussion] thread? Aren't all threads, unless otherwise specified, discussion threads? If you don't include the [Discussion] subject-tag are we assuming it's not a discussion and not a vote, so therefore it's... w

[Discussion] [Discussion]

2012-02-04 Thread Doug McCune
Is it really necessary to subject-tag any [Discussion] thread? Aren't all threads, unless otherwise specified, discussion threads? If you don't include the [Discussion] subject-tag are we assuming it's not a discussion and not a vote, so therefore it's... what?

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Marcus Fritze
Hi, yes printing from Flash / Flex is really a pain. Years ago I filled 2 issues to the JIRA: https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FLEXDMV-2532 [Dependent] PrintAdvancedDataGrid not working correctly https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-29607 predefine custom page size for printing with Fle

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Martin Heidegger
Hello Jack, I came to the conclusion that printing is basically broken in flash. I didn't manage to get a solid printing solution done with Flash even with years of experience and two weeks time last October. Pages were distorted, missing or black. I was rather astonished because I remember a

[Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Jack Ring
Hello everyone. I'm half way into building an enterprise application using Flex, Air, Coldfusion and SQL. I feel that the framework lacks in the area of printing. For example Alive PDF and mx PrintDataGrid are not up to standard at all. I don't know much in the way of building frameworks but eve

Re: [Discussion] Professional Quality Themes for Flex

2012-02-04 Thread James Ong
He has mentioned devexpress or some kind of UI in ZK framework On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Tink wrote: > Maybe I'm mistaken from what the original poster meant by themes. In Flex > a theme is a way to style components. > > If the original poster wants additional components he should give us

Re: [Discussion] Professional Quality Themes for Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Tink
Maybe I'm mistaken from what the original poster meant by themes. In Flex a theme is a way to style components. If the original poster wants additional components he should give us an idea of what he feels is missing. Tink James Ong wrote: >It will be better to let the committee handle it or

Re: [Discussion] Professional Quality Themes for Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Tink
Themes are not new and the SDK comes with a few professional themes that you can switch between. Tink James Ong wrote: >Fine-tuning Spark component performance is in the discussion before any new >feature will be consider.

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Alex Harui
On 2/3/12 9:01 AM, "filippo dipisa" wrote: > So what is the message that the Apache Flex should give to the outside Flex > comunity to convice them to stay and to help apache as well? The message is now that you can actually make a difference. Before you could submit patches and wait forever.

Re: [VOTE] final vote for logo color(s) selection

2012-02-04 Thread Dany Dhondt
Blue +1 -Dany Op 4-feb.-2012, om 13:47 heeft Jonathan Campos het volgende geschreven: > Blue +1 binding

Re: [VOTE] final vote for logo color(s) selection

2012-02-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
Blue +1 binding

Re: [Discussion] Professional Quality Themes for Flex

2012-02-04 Thread James Ong
Fine-tuning Spark component performance is in the discussion before any new feature will be consider.

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Laurent Jayr
Machinarium is the proof that mobile games with Flash is possible. Moreover, Starling is also coming soon with AIR 3.2 and it seems that performances for mobile games are pretty good... Le 4 févr. 2012 12:55, "Fil" a écrit : > > I totally agree with you. > Flex is definetly the winner at the momen

Re: [discussion]Thoughts on immediate future of Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Fil
I totally agree with you. Flex is definetly the winner at the moment in terms of features and i think it is good to continue to develop this project but moving out quickly from the flashplayer. javafx already added th fxml that is similar to mxml and it won t take long to have the same features

Re: [Discussion] Professional Quality Themes for Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Abdul Sattar
Yes i mean user interface look & feel. As far as I know; flex has great support for creating and customising themes but good quality build in themes / look and feel like www.devexpress.com controls will be a great plus. -- Abdul Sattar (Director IT & Operations) 0321-6433805 www.powersoft.com.pk

Re: [Discussion] Professional Quality Themes for Flex

2012-02-04 Thread James Ong
What does professional quality theme mean? User interface? On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Abdul Sattar wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any plan to create professional quality themes for flex.? > > I am very new to Flex development and want some information regarding how > can i contribute. Please gi

[Discussion] Professional Quality Themes for Flex

2012-02-04 Thread Abdul Sattar
Hi, Is there any plan to create professional quality themes for flex.? I am very new to Flex development and want some information regarding how can i contribute. Please give advise how can I start? Regards, -- Abdul Sattar (Director IT & Operations) +92 0321 6433805 www.powersoft.com.pk