Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-30 Thread Baptiste Coudurier
FWIW, I mostly remember it the way Nicolas retold it. — Baptiste Coudurier > On Dec 30, 2024, at 6:18 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > > Vittorio Giovara (12024-12-27): >> But that's the problem James. Spreading hate and conspiracy theories and > > I resent my honest retelling of important events

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-30 Thread Nicolas George
Vittorio Giovara (12024-12-27): > But that's the problem James. Spreading hate and conspiracy theories and I resent my honest retelling of important events as I remember them being called a conspiracy theory. Especially by somebody who was not yet in the project to witness them, or barely in the o

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread Vittorio Giovara
$ git push FATAL: W any ffmpeg vittorio DENIED by fallthru fatal: Could not read from remote repository. On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 8:31 AM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > This was also not a mail written in jest or a mail written in anger. > You were so not-angry that you removed my commit access, w

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:32 AM James Almer wrote: > > I'm not going to address the rest of your revisionist history. > > There are more polite ways to say you disagree with his version of the > events. > But that's the problem James. Spreading hate and conspiracy theories and walls of text is

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:26 AM James Almer wrote: > > That seems to me like more of an implementation detail for scenario 1a, > rather > > than a question that will get us closer to resolving the core issue. > > It's a question to ensure 1a is guaranteed to be successful. Everyone > wants to mo

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 1:59 PM James Almer wrote: > On 12/26/2024 12:07 PM, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators > >> > > > > Your removal of this message as of 1504 GMT 26/12/2024 is compl

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread martin schitter
On 27.12.24 16:26, James Almer wrote: Everyone wants to move to gitlab/forejo already. The entry bar for new blood is too high with the current ML + git send-email/format-patch style. An optimization of the contribution mechanisms, issue and documention handling and CI/CD would be indeed ve

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread James Almer
On 12/27/2024 12:24 PM, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wrote: On the ffmpeg side, development continued like before, with much less strife on the mailing-list. And almost every day, Michael would merge the changes in libav into ffmpeg. That was a tremendous work and I do not know how Michael ma

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread James Almer
On 12/26/2024 10:29 PM, Niklas Haas wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 22:06:11 -0300 James Almer wrote: On 12/26/2024 9:51 PM, Niklas Haas wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 15:59:06 -0300 James Almer wrote: On 12/26/2024 12:07 PM, Kieran Kunhya wrote: On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
> > > On the ffmpeg side, development continued like before, with much less > strife on the mailing-list. And almost every day, Michael would merge > the changes in libav into ffmpeg. That was a tremendous work and I do > not know how Michael managed to keep on top of it for years. We made a > coll

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-27 Thread Nicolas George
Niklas Haas (12024-12-27): > Having read (but not participated in) a good chunk of the recent discussions, > here is my attempt at a summarization of the core issue: FFmpeg brands itself > a democratic project, but it effectively runs on a "benevolent dictator for > life" model. The main source of

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-26 Thread Niklas Haas
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 22:06:11 -0300 James Almer wrote: > On 12/26/2024 9:51 PM, Niklas Haas wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 15:59:06 -0300 James Almer wrote: > >> On 12/26/2024 12:07 PM, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > >>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer > >>> wrote: > > Hi Co

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-26 Thread James Almer
On 12/26/2024 9:51 PM, Niklas Haas wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 15:59:06 -0300 James Almer wrote: On 12/26/2024 12:07 PM, Kieran Kunhya wrote: On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators Your removal of this message as of 1504 GMT

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-26 Thread Niklas Haas
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 15:59:06 -0300 James Almer wrote: > On 12/26/2024 12:07 PM, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators > >> > > > > Your removal of this message as of 1504 GMT 26/12/2024 is co

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-26 Thread James Almer
On 12/26/2024 12:07 PM, Kieran Kunhya wrote: On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators Your removal of this message as of 1504 GMT 26/12/2024 is completely unacceptable with one days notice posted on a public holiday in most coun

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-26 Thread Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators > Your removal of this message as of 1504 GMT 26/12/2024 is completely unacceptable with one days notice posted on a public holiday in most countries. Furthermore, you make regular allegati

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-25 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hey Kieran On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 01:39:37PM +, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wrote: > It's Christmas day, give it a rest. The FFmpeg users are more important than myself resting. Theres work to do :) Fuzzer reports that i need to look through, some will be security relevant thx [...] --

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-25 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hi Leo On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 11:51:21AM -0500, Leo Izen wrote: > On 12/25/24 8:31 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators > > > > > > As the server admin, i cannot leave messages that target people like this > > on our server and under our domain. > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-25 Thread Leo Izen
On 12/25/24 8:31 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators As the server admin, i cannot leave messages that target people like this on our server and under our domain. For what it's worth, it's already on the Internet Archive. https://web.archive.org/web/2

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-25 Thread Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
It's Christmas day, give it a rest. Kieran On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators > > The message: lists.ffmpeg.org pipermail ffmpeg-devel/2024-December/337868.html > Is unacceptable. We had alot of messages but this one went t

[FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages

2024-12-25 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators The message: lists.ffmpeg.org pipermail ffmpeg-devel/2024-December/337868.html Is unacceptable. We had alot of messages but this one went too far. This kind of message, could be in the result of a search on my name. And a person, customer or otherwise c