Hi,
Am 17.05.24 um 15:49 schrieb Michael Niedermayer:
Hi all
Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early than too
late
I propose that if we have the oppertunity again next year to receive a grant
from STF. That we use it to fund:
[...]
the trac page for the STF 20
mån 2024-06-03 klockan 08:50 +0200 skrev Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-
devel:
> Am 02.06.24 um 22:14 schrieb Tomas Härdin:
> > sön 2024-06-02 klockan 20:01 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 05:19:26PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> >
On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 2:07 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 12:31:28PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> >
> >
> > Le 5 juin 2024 12:18:57 GMT+03:00, "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <
> r...@remlab.net> a écrit :
> > >But by reacting *only* to Vittorio trying to defend himself and
On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 12:31:28PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>
> Le 5 juin 2024 12:18:57 GMT+03:00, "Rémi Denis-Courmont" a
> écrit :
> >But by reacting *only* to Vittorio trying to defend himself and explicitly
> >(and ineffectively) asking for help from the CC, you look like you ar
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:31 AM Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>
> Le 5 juin 2024 12:18:57 GMT+03:00, "Rémi Denis-Courmont"
> a écrit :
> >But by reacting *only* to Vittorio trying to defend himself and
> explicitly (and ineffectively) asking for help from the CC, you look like
> you are attacking
Le 5 juin 2024 12:18:57 GMT+03:00, "Rémi Denis-Courmont" a
écrit :
>But by reacting *only* to Vittorio trying to defend himself and explicitly
>(and ineffectively) asking for help from the CC, you look like you are
>attacking the victim and defending the troll.
I should have said "the one do
Le 5 juin 2024 10:20:47 GMT+03:00, Marton Balint a écrit :
>
>
>On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
>
>>> If you stop responding with mails on all FFmpeg mailing lists from now to
>>> indefinite time in future nothing of value would be lost.
>>>
>>
>> Please reread what you wrote and a
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 9:21 AM Marton Balint wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
>
> >> If you stop responding with mails on all FFmpeg mailing lists from now
> to
> >> indefinite time in future nothing of value would be lost.
> >>
> >
> > Please reread what you wrote and app
On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
If you stop responding with mails on all FFmpeg mailing lists from now to
indefinite time in future nothing of value would be lost.
Please reread what you wrote and appreciate the irony of the situation.
Needless to say, this is also going strai
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:22 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> > Sure I'm happy to work on this with you! Let's talk offline about it
>
> Why should discussions about a FFmpeg booth be offline ?
>
That's a great question, CC-ing Thilo about it.
--
Vittorio
On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 08:24:57PM +0200, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 5:47 PM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 3, 2024, at 11:53 PM, Vittorio Giovara <
> > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4,
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 5:47 PM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 2024, at 11:53 PM, Vittorio Giovara <
> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:01 AM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
> > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wr
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:39 PM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:53 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:02 PM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:59 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> > > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
>
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:53 PM Vittorio Giovara
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:02 PM Paul B Mahol wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:59 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:09 PM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun
> On Jun 3, 2024, at 11:53 PM, Vittorio Giovara
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:01 AM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
>>> Reposting my question/comment here since Thilo hasn't had a chance to
>>> respond, but shouldn't these kinds of requests go t
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:49:58PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early than
> too late
Unless there's a better place to put these, I plan to reply to this message
whenever I notice someone bring up something that s
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:02 PM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:59 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:09 PM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:09 AM Vittorio Giovara <
> > > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
>
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:59 PM Vittorio Giovara
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:09 PM Paul B Mahol wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:09 AM Vittorio Giovara <
> > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:55 AM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:09 PM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:09 AM Vittorio Giovara <
> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:55 AM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:53 AM Vittorio Giovara <
> > > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
>
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:09 AM Vittorio Giovara
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:55 AM Paul B Mahol wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:53 AM Vittorio Giovara <
> > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:01 AM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
> > > ffmpeg
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:55 AM Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:53 AM Vittorio Giovara <
> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:01 AM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
> > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > Reposting my question/comment here
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:53 AM Vittorio Giovara
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:01 AM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
> > > Reposting my question/comment here since Thilo hasn't had a chance to
> > > respond, but shouldn't these kinds of requests go throu
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:01 AM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> > Reposting my question/comment here since Thilo hasn't had a chance to
> > respond, but shouldn't these kinds of requests go through the GA? If
> > anybody can do whatever they want with the ffmpe
> On Jun 3, 2024, at 3:58 PM, Vittorio Giovara
> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 10:57 PM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 3, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Rémi Denis-Courmont
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Le maanantaina 3. kesäkuuta 2024, 21.58.48 EEST
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 10:57 PM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Rémi Denis-Courmont
> wrote:
> >
> > Le maanantaina 3. kesäkuuta 2024, 21.58.48 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via
> ffmpeg-
> > devel a écrit :
> >> Not sure why you ke
> On Jun 3, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
> Le maanantaina 3. kesäkuuta 2024, 21.58.48 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-
> devel a écrit :
>> Not sure why you keep beating this dead horse.
>
> Err, I think that it is obvious why:
>
> 1) The questions were not answered back t
Le maanantaina 3. kesäkuuta 2024, 21.58.48 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-
devel a écrit :
> Not sure why you keep beating this dead horse.
Err, I think that it is obvious why:
1) The questions were not answered back then. Calling the people asking
questions troll is not answering, it's insult
> On Jun 3, 2024, at 11:18 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
> Le maanantaina 3. kesäkuuta 2024, 20.48.08 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-
> devel a écrit :
What was cost-problematic about NAB? As far as I know it cost ffmpeg $0.
It would be hard for IBC to be less cost-problematic th
Le maanantaina 3. kesäkuuta 2024, 20.48.08 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-
devel a écrit :
> >> What was cost-problematic about NAB? As far as I know it cost ffmpeg $0.
> >> It would be hard for IBC to be less cost-problematic than that.
> >
> >
> > Booth setup is notoriously expensive due to l
> On Jun 3, 2024, at 10:36 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
> Le 3 juin 2024 19:43:52 GMT+03:00, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
> a écrit :
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 3, 2024, at 12:55 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>>>
>>> IBC is probably not as (cost-)problematic as NAB, w.r.t. setting up the
Le 3 juin 2024 19:43:52 GMT+03:00, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
>
>
>> On Jun 3, 2024, at 12:55 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>>
>> IBC is probably not as (cost-)problematic as NAB, w.r.t. setting up the
>> booth or transportation
>
>What was cost-problematic about NAB? As fa
> On Jun 3, 2024, at 12:55 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
> IBC is probably not as (cost-)problematic as NAB, w.r.t. setting up the booth
> or transportation
What was cost-problematic about NAB? As far as I know it cost ffmpeg $0. It
would be hard for IBC to be less cost-problematic than t
mån 2024-06-03 klockan 08:50 +0200 skrev Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-
devel:
> Am 02.06.24 um 22:14 schrieb Tomas Härdin:
> > sön 2024-06-02 klockan 20:01 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 05:19:26PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> >
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:50 AM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> Am 02.06.24 um 22:14 schrieb Tomas Härdin:
> > sön 2024-06-02 klockan 20:01 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 05:19:26PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> >>
Le 3 juin 2024 10:55:45 GMT+03:00, "Rémi Denis-Courmont" a
écrit :
>Hi,
>
>IBC is probably not as (cost-)problematic as NAB, w.r.t. setting up the booth
>or transportation, assuming people come from Europe, and the booth itself is
>paid for.
>
>Indeed, it was not appropriate for GPAC to use
Hi,
Le 3 juin 2024 09:50:15 GMT+03:00, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
>We have a booth on IBC this year which again gets sponsored so no costs for
>FFmpeg.
>Some details are still unclear which is why it's not yet announced.
For the sake of clarity, on what basis are, or were, you n
Am 02.06.24 um 22:14 schrieb Tomas Härdin:
sön 2024-06-02 klockan 20:01 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
Hi
On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 05:19:26PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
[...]
* Fund professional real live presence on multimedia / FOSS /
buisness related
events.
Also reasonable. I coul
sön 2024-06-02 klockan 20:01 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> Hi
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 05:19:26PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > * Fund professional real live presence on multimedia / FOSS /
> > > buisness related
> > > events.
> >
> > Also reasonable. I could help ma
Le 2 juin 2024 21:01:43 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
>Hi
>
>
>On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 05:19:26PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> > * Fund professional real live presence on multimedia / FOSS /
>> > buisness related
>> > events.
>>
>> Also reasonable. I could help man a b
Hi
On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 05:19:26PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
[...]
> > * Fund professional real live presence on multimedia / FOSS /
> > buisness related
> > events.
>
> Also reasonable. I could help man a booth at IBC or any other event in
> Europe
Iam strongly in favor of that! Though
fre 2024-05-17 klockan 15:49 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> * Paul to work on FFmpeg full time. My idea here is that he can work
> on whatever
> he likes in FFmpeg (so its not full time employment for specific
> work but
> simply full time employment for him to work on whatever he likes in
Hi
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 09:51:25PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le sunnuntaina 19. toukokuuta 2024, 14.29.43 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-
> devel a écrit :
> > [...]
> >
> > >> * Fund administrative / maintainance work (one example is the mailman
> > >> upgrade that is needed>>
> >
On 24.05.24 11:56, Andrew Sayers wrote:
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:49:58PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi all
Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early than too
late
This comment is inspired by the other subthread, but not directly in reply to
it.
I'm r
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:49:58PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early than
> too late
This comment is inspired by the other subthread, but not directly in reply to
it.
I'm replying to this post rather than get in
Le 24 mai 2024 10:11:49 GMT+03:00, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
>Unfortunately true, yet you argue to pay more companies to do reviews instead
>having reviews funded by unbiased means.
That is a blatant and libelous lie and will be reported to CC promptly.
___
Am 22.05.24 um 14:27 schrieb Rémi Denis-Courmont:
Le 22 mai 2024 00:34:03 GMT+03:00, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
I hope you realize what you argue in favor of.
Yes. It's quoted above.
Are you claiming that *no* review is better than *some* review done in
*public* for all to
Le 22 mai 2024 00:34:03 GMT+03:00, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
>>> I hope you realize what you argue in favor of.
>>
>> Yes. It's quoted above.
>>
>> Are you claiming that *no* review is better than *some* review done in
>> *public* for all to see by a paid professional just bec
On 21.05.24 21:43, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
Le tiistaina 21. toukokuuta 2024, 22.42.00 EEST Rémi Denis-Courmont a écrit :
And "I hope you realise that you are arguing for" Intel, Loongson, etc.
employees to stop reviewing patches.
P.S.: And FFlabs too, since it is a for-profit company.
S
On 21.05.24 21:42, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
Le tiistaina 21. toukokuuta 2024, 21.43.44 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
Same as above about that we should and STF would.
Especially since no corporate interest usually pays anyone for these
tasks
Sadly true, but...
(in case o
Le tiistaina 21. toukokuuta 2024, 22.42.00 EEST Rémi Denis-Courmont a écrit :
> And "I hope you realise that you are arguing for" Intel, Loongson, etc.
> employees to stop reviewing patches.
P.S.: And FFlabs too, since it is a for-profit company.
--
レミ・デニ-クールモン
http://www.remlab.net/
Le tiistaina 21. toukokuuta 2024, 21.43.44 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
> >> Same as above about that we should and STF would.
> >> Especially since no corporate interest usually pays anyone for these
> >> tasks
> >
> > Sadly true, but...
> >
> >> (in case of reviews it might o
On 20.05.24 20:51, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
Le sunnuntaina 19. toukokuuta 2024, 14.29.43 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-
devel a écrit :
[...]
* Fund administrative / maintainance work (one example is the mailman
upgrade that is needed>>
with the next OS upgrade on one of our servers (t
Le sunnuntaina 19. toukokuuta 2024, 14.29.43 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-
devel a écrit :
> [...]
>
> >> * Fund administrative / maintainance work (one example is the mailman
> >> upgrade that is needed>>
> >> with the next OS upgrade on one of our servers (this is not as trivial
> >> as o
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 01:29:43PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>
> [...]
> > > * Fund administrative / maintainance work (one example is the mailman
> > > upgrade that is needed
> > > with the next OS upgrade on one of our servers (this is not as trivial
> > > as one might
>
[...]
* Fund administrative / maintainance work (one example is the mailman upgrade
that is needed
with the next OS upgrade on one of our servers (this is not as trivial as one
might
expect). Another example here may be some git related tools if we find
something that
theres a broad co
On 17.05.24 16:43, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 9:50 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
* Fund professional real live presence on multimedia / FOSS / buisness
related
events. we already refund individuals but i think we are lacking on the
organizational
side. We shou
Le 17 mai 2024 21:50:20 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
>Let me reword this for 2024:
>The people on the booth are predominantly male. Similarly ffmpeg-devel
>is predominantly male. More gender diversity would be good.
As you've noted, this is an obvious problem but not an FFmpeg-spec
On 5/17/2024 7:50 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> The people on the booth are predominantly male. Similarly ffmpeg-devel
> is predominantly male. More gender diversity would be good.
That I can agree with.
- Derek
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On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 11:08:17AM -0400, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 9:50 AM Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early
> > than too late
> >
> > I propose that if we have the oppertunity again ne
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 04:26:55PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 5/17/2024 2:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Also we need more cute girls on these events, everything i hear
> > its 100% male geeks/hackers.
>
> This is gross and sexist.
This was definitly not meant to be either of that
On 5/17/2024 2:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Also we need more cute girls on these events, everything i hear
> its 100% male geeks/hackers.
This is gross and sexist.
- Derek
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On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:49:58PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early than
> too late
>
> I propose that if we have the oppertunity again next year to receive a grant
> from STF. That we use it to fund:
>
> * Pau
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 9:50 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early
> than too late
>
> I propose that if we have the oppertunity again next year to receive a
> grant
> from STF. That we use it to fund:
>
> * Paul to work
Le 17 mai 2024 16:49:58 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
>Hi all
>
>Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early than
>too late
>
>I propose that if we have the oppertunity again next year to receive a grant
>from STF. That we use it to fund:
>
>* Paul to work
Hi,
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 9:50 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> * Fund professional real live presence on multimedia / FOSS / buisness
> related
> events. we already refund individuals but i think we are lacking on the
> organizational
> side. We should also have on these events at least on
Hi all
Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early than too
late
I propose that if we have the oppertunity again next year to receive a grant
from STF. That we use it to fund:
* Paul to work on FFmpeg full time. My idea here is that he can work on whatever
he likes
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