[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-27 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 2024-12-25 20:39, schrieb Marc Haber via Exim-users: Have you tried the init script from the old version with the new daemon? I don't see a reason why this shouldn't work. No, the main priority for me was to have a working system again and downgrading solved this. -- ## subscription con

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-26 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 26.12.24 um 07:06 schrieb Andreas Metzler via Exim-users: What seems to be missing here is the systemd side information (journal). Yes, simply because there was nothing special. Just those lines: Dec 23 08:56:49 node1.xx systemd[1]: Stopping exim4.service - exim Mail Transport Agent... [t

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-25 Thread Andreas Metzler via Exim-users
On 2024-12-23 Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: > System: > - Debian 12 > - Exim 4.98 - rebuild from Debian Backports with ARC enabled > - MX'er for several domains, forwarding to a seperate Dovecot server > Action: > - systemctl restart exim4 / systemctl stop exim4 > Symptom: > - Restarting o

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-25 Thread Marc Haber via Exim-users
On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 11:37:57AM +0100, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: > Am 23.12.24 um 11:17 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: > > > I'd be tending to blame systemd, also.  What has it started doing > > differently? > > Debian 11 worked fine without any problems. The problems started wi

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 23.12.24 um 16:47 schrieb Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users: After that are you prepared to replace the 4.96 binary with the one from 4.98 to confirm that the binary is not at fault ? Sure, but this will have to wait until next year. smime.p7s Description: Kryptografische S/MIME-Signatur

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: I'll just downgrade everything tomorrow as this will definitely fix the systemd unit issue. After that are you prepared to replace the 4.96 binary with the one from 4.98 to confirm that the binary is not at fault ? -- Andrew C. Aitchison

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 23.12.24 um 14:52 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: On 23/12/2024 13:40, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: 2024-12-23 08:57:17 Mail arrives from xyz.outbound.protection.outlook.com and  is accepted You have a log line for that? 2024-12-23 08:57:17 [2661217] 1tPdIn-000BAIr-2q0S <=

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 23/12/2024 13:40, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: 2024-12-23 08:57:17 Mail arrives from xyz.outbound.protection.outlook.com and  is accepted You have a log line for that? -- Cheers, Jeremy -- ## subscription configuration (requires account): ## https://lists.exim.org/mailman3/postoriu

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 23.12.24 um 14:18 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: On 23/12/2024 12:41, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: There's no entry on the receiving server. Then it was never received, and no mail was lost.  So we're good on that front. I may have chosen my words poorly; the mail is lost inde

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 23/12/2024 12:41, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: There's no entry on the receiving server. Then it was never received, and no mail was lost. So we're good on that front. -- Cheers, Jeremy -- ## subscription configuration (requires account): ## https://lists.exim.org/mailman3/postoriu

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 23.12.24 um 13:22 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: Are there any log entries for this message-id? There's no entry on the receiving server. Looking at the -H would be interesting.  Do the headers imply it was a bounce? No, it was a normal mail from A to B. Nothing out of the ordina

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 23/12/2024 11:47, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: that there might be a hanging connection. A -J is a journal file written during delivery not during reception. That argues against those files being directly associated with the incoming connection seen with exiwhat - but could imply that a

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 23.12.24 um 11:57 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: Hmm.  I have "qq.com" mentally flagged as a poor-quality communicant.  It's not unlikely that it's going unresponsive, and this exim process is waiting on it.  Presumably systemd is waiting on the entire process group, having successfull

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Slavko via Exim-users
Ahoj, Dňa Mon, 23 Dec 2024 12:17:03 +0100 Slavko via Exim-users napísal: > It includes various Protect*= and Private*= options. IMO you can > override that unit file (systemd edit ...) and try to disable them to > find what collides with your settings. From my unit file (as shown by > systemd ca

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Slavko via Exim-users
Ahoj, Dňa Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:37:57 +0100 Kai Bojens via Exim-users napísal: > Am 23.12.24 um 11:17 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: > > > I'd be tending to blame systemd, also.  What has it started doing > > differently? > > Debian 11 worked fine without any problems. The problems star

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 23/12/2024 10:37, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: It took two minutes to restart and exiwhat only showed this in the meantime (I  repeated the exiwhat several times): $: exiwhat 2700875 handling TLS incoming connection from xmbghk7.mail.qq.com  [43.163.128.54] Hmm. I have "qq.com" mentall

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 23.12.24 um 11:17 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: I'd be tending to blame systemd, also.  What has it started doing differently? Debian 11 worked fine without any problems. The problems started with Debian 12 and the backported version. It is obvious that the systemd files changed and

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 23/12/2024 09:29, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: Right now my money is on the new Debian systemd unit files and Exim. I'd be tending to blame systemd, also. What has it started doing differently? Can it be reverted? The log lines smell like the effective permissions on the spool area ar

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Kai Bojens via Exim-users
Am 23.12.24 um 10:14 schrieb Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users: Is dovecot running when exim shuts down ? Dovecot is on a different server and is running without interruption. Right now my money is on the new Debian systemd unit files and Exim. smime.p7s Description: Kryptografische S/MIME-Si

[exim] Re: Stopping exim breaks delivery and destroys data file

2024-12-23 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024, Kai Bojens via Exim-users wrote: System: - Debian 12 - Exim 4.98 - rebuild from Debian Backports with ARC enabled - MX'er for several domains, forwarding to a seperate Dovecot server Action: - systemctl restart exim4 / systemctl stop exim4 Symptom: - Restarting or sto