David Maus writes:
> At Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:19:27 -0500,
> U Avalos wrote:
>> Hi all. I know that there are various packages out there to use org-mode to
>> publish *websites* but I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Is there a way to
>> use org-mode to add posts to an existing Drupal or Wordpres
I have written a package 'org-caldav' which can sync items to a remote
calendar server using the CalDAV protocol. The main purpose of this
package is to make better use of Org in combination with Android-based
mobile devices (yes, there is mobileOrg, but I have several problems
with it; that's a to
David Engster writes:
> I have written a package 'org-caldav' which can sync items to a remote
> calendar server using the CalDAV protocol. The main purpose of this
> package is to make better use of Org in combination with Android-based
> mobile devices (yes, there is
Torsten Wagner writes:
> Guess many are interested actually, this was on the mailing list
> several times already.
> Any chance to merge with mobileOrg? Would be good to have both ways
> and you might save some time doing redundant stuff in both projects.
Well, there's really no redundancy since m
Robert Eckl writes:
> Acutally, an appointment must not have any text outside the Properties
[...]
I think there's a bug in org-icalendar with regards to handling
tags. I'm getting an icalendar event like this:
BEGIN:VEVENT
UID:f90ec513423879f1e09c7c10fc0e15a9-orgmodecaldav
DTSTART:20120728T2000
David Engster writes:
> Robert Eckl writes:
>> Acutally, an appointment must not have any text outside the Properties
>
> [...]
>
> I think there's a bug in org-icalendar with regards to handling
> tags. I'm getting an icalendar
Torsten Wagner writes:
> Sync went ok however, I notice I have to log-out from the ownCloud
> webmask... again maybe a ownCloud server setting
Yes, Owncloud can be a bit finicky here. From my experience, you should
not be fooled by its 4.x version number; it often behaves more like a
0.4.
> The l
Bastien writes:
> I use Emacs from after your patch to url-dav (>7/26/2012)
Then I guess you patched org-caldav-sync to not test for
`url-dav-patched-version'? Anyway, I've now added support for the
Emacs-bzr version of url-dav.
> and I use this simple configuration:
>
> (setq org-caldav-calendar
Bastien writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> That is very strange. It should first
>> ask: "Username [for Google CalDAV]:". If it does not do that, maybe you
>> have that information in your .authinfo?
>
> I have this:
>
> machine smtp.gmail.com login bas
Stephen Eglen writes:
> David Engster randomsample.de> writes:
>> Bastien writes:
>> > David Engster randomsample.de> writes:
>> >> That is very strange. It should first
>> >> ask: "Username [for Google CalDAV]:". If it does not do tha
Stephen Eglen writes:
>> I think it is a problem somewhere with my local setup; if I add the
>> following to .authinfo (chmod 600) then it uses the right username:
>>
>> Machine www.google.com login my-gmail-login
>>
>> I'm now about to see how to setup .authinfo.gpg so that I can also
>> include m
Suvayu Ali writes:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 08:50:35PM +0100, David Engster wrote:
>> I'm at a loss why this happens, and I could not reproduce it with my
>> account. This problem really has nothing to do with org-caldav, since it
>> is delegating this part to the ur
Rainer M. Krug writes:
> On 06/12/12 09:36, Jambunathan K wrote:
>> On the left is the navbar. - You can quickly navigate to any
>> heading, a table or a captioned
>> figure.
>
> Couldn't the navbar from emacs be used for that? I haven't used it in
> a long time, but in ecb
> (Emacs Code Browswer)
Matt Price writes:
> (1) do you know if it's possible to get the speedbar buffer in a
> window instead of a frame?
I initially thought that would be easy. Turns out it isn't. ECB uses all
kinds of 'defadvice' to achieve that.
There's a package sr-speedbar at
http://www.emacswiki.org/SrSpeedbar
Detlef Steuer writes:
> What I'm trying to figure out at the moment, is how to setup a batch so, that
> say work.org goes into calendar "work", family.org into calendar "family"
> etc.,
> without asking for user/password combinations.
That's not implemented. I guess you can workaround the probl
When exporting an Org file as iCalendar and org-icalendar-timezone is
set to e.g. "Europe/Berlin", it gets inserted as "EUROPE/BERLIN" during
export (and some CalDAV servers don't like that).
This is because "%Z" gets replaced with org-icalendar-timezone, and the
FIXEDCASE parameter isn't set in t
Stelian Iancu writes:
> Well it seems that it didn't hang at all. What happens is that the
> buffer which contains the org file doesn't seem to accept any keyboard
> input anymore.
This bug is currently being discussed on emacs-devel:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/156120
Jan has alre
I just pushed a pretty big update to org-caldav. Get it at
https://github.com/dengste/org-caldav
The short story: org-caldav now does proper two-way syncing. It's pretty
much a rewrite, actually. If you're already using org-caldav, you will
have to start from scratch after updating.
Please read
Detlef Steuer writes:
> So it seems all events get deleted immediately after loading them up.
> Indeed my calendars show up empty again in owncloud :-)
>
> Any hints?
Could you post the contents of the *org-caldav-debug* buffer when this
happens?
-David
Eric S. Fraga writes:
> I've tracked down the root of the various problems I have encountered
> with the synchronisation. It all comes down to character sets. I
> have some entries that have UTF-8 characters that are not present in
> ASCII, specifically accented characters and similar (latin1,
>
Vincent Beffara writes:
> Works great for me, thanks! One thing that changed (but it was kind of
> a glitch anyway, even if a nice one to have): events with several
> timestamps now appear only once rather than one per timestamp. Not
> sure if this is due to org-caldav or to recent evolutions in th
Torsten Wagner writes:
> we just tried org-caldav and it seems to work very nice.
> We use Sogo http://www.sogo.nu/ and hence David might like to ad Sogo on the
> list of possible caldav servers.
Thanks, that's good news. I'm actually pretty surprised that it works
right out of the box.
> Any pl
Torsten Wagner writes:
> Hey David,
> could you please help me and steer me in the right direction to find the
> cuprit
> which makes the caldav calendar lagging an hour compared to the timestamps in
> org-mode.
It's difficult. I will need to add some (optional) excessive debugging
output for see
Torsten Wagner writes:
> I also noticed the files org-caldav-2094e16.el and org-caldav-backup.org.
> However, they are stored in my .emacs.d folder. Would it make sens to have an
> option to save them relatively to the org-file? E.g. relative to the path set
> in org-caldav-files? That would help t
Torsten Wagner writes:
> You might can try
>
> http://sogo-demo.inverse.ca/SOGo/dav/sogo1/Calendar/personal/
>
> which is the demo account of the Sogo.
Thanks. That'll work.
After a bit of fiddling it seems that SOGo really really wants a
timezone definition. I have no idea how those can be g
Torsten Wagner writes:
> I did not had time to play with the different parameters. For now I simply
> added all of them.
> I guess it has to do either with the timezone or with the daylight settings.
> Maybe you want to add this to a "How-to install for SOGo" as a workaround.
I think I found a bet
Torsten Wagner writes:
> If I understood David right, the "UTC" option is just an addition to the
> already present options.
> Thus, if you used e.g. "Europe/Berlin" before, you do not need to change
> anything and in fact, you shouldn't see a difference.
Yes, exactly.
-David
Torsten Wagner writes:
> I see the problem that you might changed the text in the summary field in the
> caldav calendar, which potentially mess up the header (where to place the old
> timestamp within the context of the new text?!) but for now, I would suggest
> to simply search for a timestamp w
Eric S. Fraga writes:
> I've had to clear out the org-caldav-xxx.el file in .emacs.d a couple
> of times but that's typically due to my doing things on the same entry
> in both calendar systems (org and Google).
If you change an item in Org as well as in the Calendar, the calendar
entry should sim
Hi all,
I guess this should be simple but somehow it's not working for me. I
want to generate a todo list which is sorted according to the scheduled
date. Consider the following test.org file:
** TODO: first SCHEDULED: <2009-04-01 Wed>
** TODO: second SCHEDULED: <2009-04-23 Thu>
** TODO: third SC
Matthew Lundin writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> I guess this should be simple but somehow it's not working for me. I
>> want to generate a todo list which is sorted according to the scheduled
>> date. Consider the following test.org file:
[...]
>> This mini
Carsten Dominik writes:
> On Mar 30, 2009, at 4:46 PM, David Engster wrote:
>> Thanks for the clarification. This is a bit confusing, since sorting
>> by priority works in the todo list, but sorting with date does
>> not. Also, since I call the function 'org-agenda
Carsten Dominik writes:
> On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:03 PM, David Engster wrote:
>> While browsing through chapter 10, I got the impression that the
>> different views are just different filters, but that I'm always
>> dealing with the same agenda mode, where e
Marvin M. Doyley writes:
> Is there a way to sync org-agenda with google calendar so that I can
> exploit googles calendar reminder.
org-caldav[1] works with Google Calendar on the old, deprecated CalDAV
endpoint (https://www.google.com/calendar/dav). I hear that the endpoint
is still working for
Detlef Steuer writes:
> org-check-agenda-file: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil
Do M-x toggle-debug-on-error before the sync and you should get a
backtrace for the error. Just post that here and we might be able to see
what's going on.
-David
Detlef Steuer writes:
> Am Sun, 16 Nov 2014 22:53:11 +0100
> schrieb David Engster :
>
>> Detlef Steuer writes:
>> > org-check-agenda-file: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil
>>
>> Do M-x toggle-debug-on-error before the sync and you should get a
>> backtr
Sven Bretfeld writes:
> (setq org-caldav-files "/home/sven/Dropbox/myconf/testlocalcal.org")
No, that's wrong. It has to be a list of files:
(setq org-caldav-files '("/home/sven/Dropbox/myconf/testlocalcal.org"))
-David
Sven Bretfeld writes:
> - progn: Could not find UID emacs207403667799062360.
I'm currently struck with a nasty cold, so I have trouble thinking. But
this means that it tries to find this ID in your Org files, and it does
not seem to be there. You can try to go there by calling
M-x org-id-goto
an
Sven Bretfeld writes:
> Hi David and all
>
> I've got it. By try and error I found out that entries like these in an
> org-file cause the problem:
>
> %%(diary-anniversary 6 8 1969) Christian is %d years old
Ah OK. Thanks for looking into this. Those entries apparently produce
events during expor
'giles' writes:
> Contacting host: www.google.com:443
> Getting event 1 of 28
> icalendar--read-element: Search failed: ";\\([A-Za-z0-9-]+\\)="
Could you please do M-x toggle-debug-on-error before running the sync
and post the resulting backtrace here?
-David
'giles' writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> Could you please do M-x toggle-debug-on-error before running the sync
>> and post the resulting backtrace here?
>
> Slightly different behaviour this time: first seven events synced fine,
> number 8 blew up the same way
Eric S. Fraga writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> Sven Bretfeld writes:
>>> Hi David and all
>>>
>>
>>> I've got it. By try and error I found out that entries like these in an
>>> org-file cause the problem:
>>>
>>>
David Engster writes:
> 'giles' writes:
>> David Engster writes:
>>> Could you please do M-x toggle-debug-on-error before running the sync
>>> and post the resulting backtrace here?
>
>>
>> Slightly different behaviour this time: first seven
Torsten Wagner writes:
> Tested and you are right. Adding a timestamp in the body doesn't get
> lost during sync. Actually, I guess the problem is a combination of
> export and import to org-mode. During the export, the timestamp gets
> read in correctly, however, it get stripped from the Summary
Eric S. Fraga writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> OK, I took a shot at dealing with sexp entries. It's a complicated
>> issue, since s-expressions can be in Org entries or by themselves. I
>> updated the Readme with a section on how they are handled now. Please
>>
Julien Cubizolles writes:
> Since a few days (maybe an emacs update) I get this error message
> whenever I run org-caldav-sync.
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function url-http-options)
>
> I've been digging around a bit and url-http-options is defined in
> url-http.el which is present on
Julien Cubizolles writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> Julien Cubizolles writes:
>>> Since a few days (maybe an emacs update) I get this error message
>>> whenever I run org-caldav-sync.
>>>
>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function url-http
Michael Albinus writes:
> Andreas Röhler writes:
>> What about using some of the tools around?
>>
>> Mirroring the stuff at github would provide a tracker just by the way...
>
> Or you use debbugs.gnu.org, which hosts the Emacs bugtracker. Some of
> the org bugs will arrive there anyway, from peop
Michael Albinus writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> Is it OK to report bugs for upstream/development versions through
>> `report-emacs-bugs', though? I always thought this should only be used
>> for stuff that's actually bundled with Emacs (what about bu
Bastien writes:
> Hi Julien,
>
> Julien Cubizolles writes:
>
>> As of today, org-cadav-syn fails with
>>
>> org-export-icalendar: Symbol's function definition is void:
>> org-prepare-agenda-buffers
>>
>> Actually, I can't find this function but org-agenda-prepare-buffers
>> exist. Are there two di
Bastien writes:
> Hi David,
>
> David Engster writes:
>
>> org-caldav does not call this function. It however requires
>> org-icalendar, and that was renamed to ox-icalendar in org git. So I
>> guess it pulls org-icalendar from the Org that is included with Emacs
Bastien writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> Of course I can fix this. But I hope you realize that any third-party
>> code out there that requires an exporter will load the old one from
>> Emacs proper.
>
> Yes, I'm well aware of this. The change now liv
Achim Gratz writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> An alternative would be to remove the bundled Org from load-path when a
>> newer version is loaded. We do that with CEDET, but it is difficult to
>> do right (because of autoloading, for instance), so I think the
>> eva
Bastien writes:
> Hi David,
>
> David Engster writes:
>
>> The most serious issue is that things will often seem to work because
>> old exporters are pulled in from Emacs, possibly *very* old
>> exporters.
>
> I've added (provide 'org-icalendar) to
Torsten Wagner writes:
> Now I make a tiny change e.g. change the length of the appointment from within
> SOGo and sync back I get
>
> TODO TODO Neuer Termin mit Foo und Bar r<2013-03-06 Wed 10:00-11:00>
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ID: 8a9651c0-faee-4416-afa6-979e328a3d15
> :END:
>
> As you
Bastien writes:
> Hi David,
>
> David Engster writes:
>
>> (eval-after-load "org-icalendar"
>> '(error "The old org-icalendar exporter is deprecated; use
>> ox-icalendar instead."))
>
> I'm not sure about this one: where are y
Torsten Wagner writes:
> I didn't follow this thread in detail. But shouldn't it be enough to symlink
> e.g. org-icalendar against ox-icalendar. As far as I understood emacs would
> prioritize those local symlinks over the system wide installation. This would
> be a temporary solution until a new e
Julien Cubizolles writes:
> Bastien writes:
>
>> Achim Gratz writes:
>>
>>> I hope to put this together in the next week or
>>> so, then it will be possible to nuke all traces fr4om an old Org and
>>> then start from a clean slate with a new Org installation.
>>
>> Okay, thanks. Let us know how
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Hello,
>
> David Engster writes:
>
>> Julien Cubizolles writes:
>>> Bastien writes:
>>>
>>>> Achim Gratz writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I hope to put this together in the next week or
>>>>>
Julien Cubizolles writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> I just pushed a change which should fix this (if the new exporter is
>> compatible;
>
> It doesn't seem to be, I get
>
> apply: Symbol's function definition is void: org-export-icalendar
>
> when ru
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>>> What do you need from org-icalendar.el?
>>
>> Only org-export-icalendar. As long as that one is producing the same
>> output, everything should be fine.
>
> Unfortunately, there is no `org-export-icale
Julien Cubizolles writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> No, it's not defined in ox-icalendar. I guess it must be generated by
>> the new exporter first, probably through some additional require.
>
> I have the following definition in ox-icalendar.el.
>
> (d
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> After skimming through the new exporter, it also seems that
>> org-combined-agenda-icalendar-file was replaced with
>> org-icalendar-combined-agenda-file. Is that correct?
>>
>> I'm also using org-ic
Vincent Beffara writes:
> In the meantime I also tweaked the way org-caldav manages UIDs to
> exploit the fact that multiply occurring events are now exported
> multiple times in ox-icalendar, everything works out well if only
> org->ical is used. One thing remaining, on ical->org sync, there is an
Google has announced today that they will shut down their CalDAV API in
September, since hey, everybody's using their own protocol anyway.
org-caldav will then cease to work with Google calendar. I won't work on
supporting the Google calendaring API until there's a free server
implementation for it
Bastien writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> I won't work on supporting the Google calendaring API until there's a
>> free server implementation for it, which can be self-hosted. If
>> someone else would like to work on that, please create a fork under a
>>
Jambunathan K. writes:
> Still you haven't answered my "Fudging the mail reply headers" question
> to my satisfaction.
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/message/Mailing-Lists.html
"A mailing list poster can use MFT to express that responses should be
sent to just the list, and no
Jambunathan K. writes:
> I know that.
>
> But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To
> header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga.
Because Carsten started the thread and did not set MFT.
-David
Jambunathan K. writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> Jambunathan K. writes:
>>> I know that.
>>>
>>> But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To
>>> header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fr
'rasmus' writes:
> For now I'm using fluux, but I haven't managed to get org-CalDAV to
> sync yet.
What is that? I'm afraid I cannot find it.
> I'm also looking to sync bbdb via CardDAV, although I would be
> willing to switch to org-contacts if a solution emerged here before.
CardDAV shouldn't
Vincent Beffara writes:
> But it _can_ list my calendars, meaning that it can authenticate and
> have some sort of interaction with google's servers. Maybe interfacing
> with that would not be too hard?
Supporting the Google Calendar API in org-caldav wouldn't be hard. It's
actually a very clean,
Eric S. Fraga writes:
> Bastien writes:
>
>> Eric S Fraga writes:
>>
>>> Given that I no longer use my old syncing approach, described on that
>>> page, and instead use org-caldav, I would be happy to have the reference
>>> to org-caldav moved to the top!
>>
>> It's a wiki, be *bold* :)
>
> Actua
I'd like to use Org as a static site generator. I know quite a few
people use Org to manage their sites, so I'd like to know what's already
available and what I'd need to add to make this working properly.
I know of course how to export a bunch of Org files to HTML through the
publishing features.
Vincent Beffara writes:
> I am using o-blog for that, it is pretty great.
Thanks, that looks pretty nice. I'll take a look.
>> Thing of a typical HTML5 template having a , , ,
>> and . I'd like Org to include the different exported files into
>> the section, and the rest to remain the same. The
David Engster writes:
> Google has announced today that they will shut down their CalDAV API in
> September, since hey, everybody's using their own protocol anyway.
Well, Google has suddenly realized that not only is CalDAV an open
standard, but it's actually used outside the
Peter Münster writes:
> * contrib/lisp/org-notify.el (org-notify-make-todo)
> (org-notify-process, org-notify-on-action-button)
> (org-notify-action-email, org-notify-action-window): Replace `flet'
> and `macrolet' by `cl-flet' and `cl-macrolet'.
cl-lib was just introduced in Emacs 24.3.
-David
Achim Gratz writes:
> Peter Münster writes:
>>> cl-lib was just introduced in Emacs 24.3.
>>
>> Does that mean, that the trunk should be modified later?
>
> It means you should implement a solution that doesn't make Org
> non-functional for Emacs 23 users.
The easiest solution is to simply do noth
Suvayu Ali writes:
> I have noticed that git *always* conflicts with TODO state changes. It
> seems changes to a headline is not easy to resolve.
You mean you change state in a file and git fails to merge this on the
other side, although you didn't change the same line there? I've never
seen such
Suvayu Ali writes:
> That said, I think you might be right. Possibly it could be resolved by
> just changing the algorithm, I don't know why I never tried that though.
You might want to try setting diff.algorithm to 'patience' and maybe
also raise diff.context to something like 6 or so if that do
Jason Riedy writes:
> Google has deprecated the URL in org-caldav, and that old URL
> does not work for me. The new one is documented at
>
> https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/caldav/v2/guide#new_endpoint
>
> Fiddling with the regexp in org-caldav-events-url triggers an
> error
Jambunathan K. writes:
> It was rude of you to close the bug of which you nothing about.
It was rude of you to close all your existing bugs. Did it cross your
mind that maybe people already started working on those? This is not
a playground for your ego trips.
-David
Jambunathan K. writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> This is not a playground for your ego trips.
>
> Or Eli Zaretskii's. That's precisely my point.
Nobody cares for your "points" if you're pulling stunts like closing all
bugs you've opened. I for one am done talking to you.
-David
FYI:
I've updated the emacs-git master on the Buildbot and now
'test-ob/process-params-no-duplicates' is failing:
http://randomsample.de/org-buildbot
I've also added a new builder 'emacs-25.1' which is the current emacs-25
branch.
-David
Peter Davis writes:
> #+BEGIN_SRC Javascript
Don't capitalize, use 'javascript'.
-David
Peter Davis writes:
> On 5/25/15 10:44 AM, David Engster wrote:
>> Peter Davis writes:
>>> #+BEGIN_SRC Javascript
>> Don't capitalize, use 'javascript'.
> Thanks, David.
>
> That doesn't appear to make any difference. Neither does "js"
Nick Dokos writes:
> Rasmus writes:
>
>> Nick Dokos writes:
>>
>>> I just updated to release_8.3beta-1286-g20795fd.
>>>
>>> ``make test'' shows a failure on test 226:
>>>FAILED 226/592 test-org-clock/clocktable-until-now
>>>
>>>
>>> The backtrace was edited to get rid of a NUL that gnus com
Bastien writes:
> Emacs 23 and XEmacs support will be officially dropped as of Org 9.0.
Support for XEmacs should be dropped right away; it would just state a
fact, as Org didn't even compile with XEmacs for quite some time now
(and nobody complained).
> I recognize having the manpower to watch a
I have the problem that a certain kind Org entries is not exported by
the icalendar exporter, namely those created by the gnus-icalendar
package.
This package creates Org entries from calendar invites in the following
way (I've omitted some of the properties, but you get the idea);
** Some appoin
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> These entries show up in the agenda just fine, but the icalendar
>> exporter does not export it because the timestamp is in the properties
>> (the gnus-icalendar package puts it there so that you can easily change
>>
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> David Engster writes:
>> I mean, those entries show up in the agenda, so I found it rather
>> surprising that they are completely ignored by the exporter.
>
> This is an agenda bug, which probably use a regexp to find timestamps.
> But timestam
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> It's these multitude of timestamp locations which makes changing the
>> timestamp of an existing entry through Elisp so tedious (I had to deal
>> with that in org-caldav)
>
> The number of locations may be
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> David Engster writes:
>
>> I'm actually not sure what org-element is capable of nowadays. What I'd
>> like to have is a way to parse entries into a structure
>
> See `org-element-parse-buffer'.
>
>> which lets me acc
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Hello,
>
> Eric S Fraga writes:
>
>> I have tracked this down to org-icalendar outputing wrapped lines even
>> for UID entries:
>>
>> ,
>> | BEGIN:VEVENT
>> | DTSTAMP:20140507T114443Z
>> | UID:0400[...]00
>> | 00[...]6
>> | DTSTART;TZID=Europe/London:20120403T06
David Engster writes:
> Nicolas Goaziou writes:
>> Eric S Fraga writes:
>>> I have tracked this down to org-icalendar outputing wrapped lines even
>>> for UID entries:
>>>
>>> ,
>>> | BEGIN:VEVENT
>>> | DTSTAMP:20140507T114443Z
Eric S. Fraga writes:
> On Tuesday, 3 Jun 2014 at 21:54, David Engster wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Well, that took a bit longer, but I pushed it now...
>>
>> -David
>
> Well, the good news is that you have indeed fixed the problem I noted
> about IDs on more
John Wiegley writes:
>> "KM" == Kaushal Modi writes:
>
> KM> If we are able the release the new packaging method in emacs 26.x, then we
> KM> can remove org from emacs master completely, but if not, then at least as
> KM> backup we have a newer org version to go out with that release.
>
> For
John Wiegley writes:
>>>>>> "DE" == David Engster writes:
>
> DE> This is a misunderstanding. I said I wanted to move support for certain
> DE> languages and project types into ELPA, not CEDET core. I'm still of the
> DE> opinion that moving
Lars Ingebrigtsen writes:
> The question is: What is the most effective way for Emacs developers to
> spend their time? I can't really see that anybody has made the case
> that shifting stuff from Emacs core to ELPA will mean less work for...
> well, anybody.
>
> (Except perhaps CEDET. There seem
John Wiegley writes:
>>>>>> "DE" == David Engster writes:
>
> DE> It is a mistake because you are creating more moving targets and bring
> DE> them together very late in the release process. This reduces the amount of
> DE> testing that is done
John Wiegley writes:
>>>>>> "DE" == David Engster writes:
>
> DE> Also, I currently have no idea how to continue with CEDET, as the future
> DE> where development should happen is unclear, and I get the feeling we're
> DE> just waisting o
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