Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tuesday 01 June 2010 17:01:16 Phil Howard wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:45, Rainer Frey wrote: > > I guess you'll have the mental transfer of "fight spam" into "cause > > dovecot to perform this and that action" yourself. The possible actions > > are, in general, documented. > > I cannot

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On Tuesday 01 June 2010 20:55:52 Phil Howard wrote: > wrote: > > On 6/1/10 2:10 PM -0400 Phil Howard wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:42, e-frog wrote: > >>> This might be helpful: > >>> > >>> http://wiki.dovecot.org/ManageSieve/ > >> > >> Right now only time for a quick look. Looks like

Re: [Dovecot] configuring sendmail to work with dovecot+LDAP

Douglas Maus wrote: > I would like to setup dovecot (1.1.20) with LDAP virtual users, > but I don't seem to understand how to get my sendmail to accept > mail for the virtual users. > (I am rather new to this, so I may have some misunderstandings) > > I have followed - wiki.dovecot.org/HowTo/Dovec

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On Tuesday 01 June 2010 20:10:08 Phil Howard wrote: > Looks like I will need to do a lot of reading on Sieve and ManageSieve > to be sure it's safe. For one thing, I want to turn the vacation > feature off unless it can cross check a list of valid senders (user > contacts). No need to turn it off

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot v2.0.beta5 (1b45f9641924): Auth Crashes

On 06/01/2010 10:02 PM Thomas Leuxner wrote: > ==> /var/log/dovecot.log <== > Jun 1 21:52:30 spectre dovecot: lmtp(6788): Connect from local > Jun 1 21:52:30 spectre dovecot: master: Error: service(auth): child 6797 > killed with signal 11 (core not dumped) > Jun 1 21:52:30 spectre dovecot: lmt

Re: [Dovecot] Migration - Dovecot to Dovecot

On 06/01/2010 02:04 PM Henrique Fernandes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Greg Pearson wrote: > >> Hi, >> I am using Dovecot with mbox format, and I am interested to move to >> Maildir. I have run the modified script (mb2md) but it seems UIDs are not >> preserved. I don't know how to ver

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:09:19 -0400 Phil Howard articulated: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:56, Charles Marcus > wrote: > > On 2010-06-01 8:39 AM, Phil Howard wrote: > >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 17:30, Charles Marcus wrote: > >>> Of course it is meant for people, but it is meant to show only the > >

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On 6/1/10 3:56 PM -0400 Phil Howard wrote: Since sieve looks like it will be a problem right now, until I get a solution to that, I'm seriously considering this solution. A shim program I write in C will be run from Postfix master.cf just as ... you are just making it harder than it has to be.

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On 01/06/2010 20:56, Phil Howard wrote: Since sieve looks like it will be a problem right now, until I get a solution to that, I'm seriously considering this solution. A shim program I write in C will be run from Postfix master.cf just as Dovecot deliver is now. I'd basically change the executa

Re: [Dovecot] draft-ietf-morg-list-specialuse-01 - IMAP LIST extension for special-use mailboxes

On 01.06.2010 23:23, Timo Sirainen wrote: On to, 2010-05-20 at 15:48 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote: On 20.05.2010 15:41, Timo Sirainen wrote: list_specialuse = \Trash:Trash "\Sent:Sent Messages" etc. Quoting is annoying. Hmm, maybe use predefined order of folders? In this case quoting will be

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot v2.0.beta5 (1b45f9641924): Auth Crashes

On ti, 2010-06-01 at 22:02 +0200, Thomas Leuxner wrote: > Jun 1 21:52:30 spectre dovecot: master: Error: service(auth): child 6797 > killed with signal 11 (core not dumped) Could you get gdb backtrace? http://dovecot.org/bugreport.html#coredumps

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On 2010-06-01 3:56 PM, Phil Howard wrote: > Since sieve looks like it will be a problem right now, until I get a > solution to that, I'm seriously considering this solution. A shim > program I write in C will be run from Postfix master.cf just as > Dovecot deliver is now. I'm trying to figure out

[Dovecot] Dovecot v2.0.beta5 (1b45f9641924): Auth Crashes

Hi, not sure which change caused it, but one of the latest adds between those two snapshots breaks userdb lookup: Jun 1 21:53:30 spectre dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.0.beta5 (1b45f9641924) starting up Jun 1 21:53:30 spectre dovecot: master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=6898 uid=0

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 14:56, Frank Cusack wrote: > Man oh man.  You don't have much experience with mail and it sounds > like you are starting from scratch.  You have your work cut out for > you. :) Well, actually I do. A lot of it is way way back there with sendmail. Back then I coded sendma

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

Original-Nachricht > Datum: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:42:18 -0400 > Von: Phil Howard > An: Dovecot Mailing List > Betreff: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam > I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot > features can be used in the fight against spam. O

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On ti, 2010-06-01 at 12:22 -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: > On 6/1/10 8:10 PM +0100 Timo Sirainen wrote: > > On ti, 2010-06-01 at 12:02 -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: > >> deliver -m is implemented via sieve anyway. > > > > No. You can use deliver -m without having Sieve installed at all. > > > > > > That

Re: [Dovecot] draft-ietf-morg-list-specialuse-01 - IMAP LIST extension for special-use mailboxes

On to, 2010-05-20 at 15:48 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > On 20.05.2010 15:41, Timo Sirainen wrote: > >>> list_specialuse = \Trash:Trash "\Sent:Sent Messages" etc. > > Quoting is annoying. > > > > Hmm, maybe use predefined order of folders? In this case quoting will be > used where it necessary >

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On 6/1/10 8:10 PM +0100 Timo Sirainen wrote: On ti, 2010-06-01 at 12:02 -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: deliver -m is implemented via sieve anyway. No. You can use deliver -m without having Sieve installed at all. That's not how Stephan (?) explained the interaction of -m and sieve filters to m

Re: [Dovecot] 2.0.beta4, Panic: stream doesn't support seeking backwards

On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 04:03:10PM +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Well, I can't reproduce this in a normal way. But by changing the code I > managed to cause it. Does this fix it also for you? > http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.0/rev/941608f8b3fb > Yeah, that was it! Thanks, Timo. Greetings Juerg

[Dovecot] configuring sendmail to work with dovecot+LDAP

I would like to setup dovecot (1.1.20) with LDAP virtual users, but I don't seem to understand how to get my sendmail to accept mail for the virtual users. (I am rather new to this, so I may have some misunderstandings) I have followed - wiki.dovecot.org/HowTo/DovecotOpenLdap (OpenLDAP 2.3.43) an

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On ti, 2010-06-01 at 12:02 -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: > deliver -m is implemented via sieve anyway. No. You can use deliver -m without having Sieve installed at all.

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On 6/1/10 2:55 PM -0400 Phil Howard wrote: mean time, I just need a short term solution to divert tagged-as-spam messages into the INBOX-spam (or something like that) folder. I'll probably just go ahead and write a shim program in C (as easy for me as a script is for others) to check for the tag

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

I hadn't gotten to reading much about Sieve, yet, as what I had read said it was something IMAP users would run. Man oh man. You don't have much experience with mail and it sounds like you are starting from scratch. You have your work cut out for you. :) The standard way to filter spam is [al

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 14:45, Frank Cusack wrote: > On 6/1/10 2:10 PM -0400 Phil Howard wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:42, e-frog wrote: >> >>> This might be helpful: >>> >>>  http://wiki.dovecot.org/ManageSieve/ >> >> Right now only time for a quick look.  Looks like yet another server >

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On 6/1/10 2:10 PM -0400 Phil Howard wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:42, e-frog wrote: This might be helpful:  http://wiki.dovecot.org/ManageSieve/ Right now only time for a quick look. Looks like yet another server with yet another protocol (via port 4190), rather than integrated into IMA

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:42, e-frog wrote: > This might be helpful: > >  http://wiki.dovecot.org/ManageSieve/ Right now only time for a quick look. Looks like yet another server with yet another protocol (via port 4190), rather than integrated into IMAP as an extension. I'm doubting all my em

Re: [Dovecot] Intermittent timeout issues

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:58, Del Stoliker wrote: > It almost sounds like the firewall is blocking external access except that: > * The version of dovecot was the thing that changed > * Everything starts working again after a dovecot restart It sounds like the firewall is doing something to the

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On 01.06.2010 19:24, wrote Phil Howard: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:07, Gerhard Waldemair wrote: >>> Is there à GUI for sieve. >>> >>> I don't have installed Squrielmail, but won't like to manage the Rules per >>> ssh > > I would hope there would be a way to put Sieve scripts in place via > IMAP

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On 01/06/2010 18:07, Gerhard Waldemair wrote: Is there à GUI for sieve. I don't have installed Squrielmail, but won't like to manage the Rules per ssh I have never used it myself, but there would appear to be some useful things here: A thingy for Dovecot which should allow Sieve configur

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On 6/1/10 10:24 AM, Phil Howard wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:07, Gerhard Waldemair wrote: >>> Is there à GUI for sieve. >>> >>> I don't have installed Squrielmail, but won't like to manage the Rules per >>> ssh > > I would hope there would be a way to put Sieve scripts in place via > IMAP i

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:07, Gerhard Waldemair wrote: >> Is there à GUI for sieve. >> >> I don't have installed Squrielmail, but won't like to manage the Rules per >> ssh I would hope there would be a way to put Sieve scripts in place via IMAP itself. Otherwise I won't be able to do that on my

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:41, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Law firm or heavily FED GOV regulated industry?  Or just HUA (head up ass) > management with zero understanding of email and spam? People dealing with a large variety of outside clients and potential clients where bouncing THEIR mail gives bad

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:55, William Blunn wrote: > "The Dovecot Sieve plugin provides mail filtering facilities at time of > final message delivery using the Sieve (RFC 5228 > ) language." > > "Sieve is implemented as a plugin to deliver

[Dovecot] Sieve GUI

Is there à GUI for sieve. I don't have installed Squrielmail, but won't like to manage the Rules per ssh

[Dovecot] Intermittent timeout issues

Greetings list! We've been experiencing an intermittent issue in which none users are able to log into the mail server for about 10 to 20 minutes. This issue first appeared on our CentOS 4 box running dovecot 1.2.11 after upgrading from the stock version 0.99. The issue persists after migratin

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On 01/06/2010 17:05, Phil Howard wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:01, William Blunn wrote: Get your anti-spam software to add header records to the messages, then use Dovecot LDA Sieve to filter based on those header records. So I can run Sieve as part of the deliver? Or does it ru

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

Phil Howard put forth on 6/1/2010 11:25 AM: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:17, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Phil Howard put forth on 6/1/2010 9:15 AM: >>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:04, Jerry wrote: >>> The fight against SPAM is NOT Dovecots responsibility. >>> >>> Whose responsibility is it to get d

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:17, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Phil Howard put forth on 6/1/2010 9:15 AM: >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:04, Jerry wrote: >> >>> The fight against SPAM is NOT Dovecots responsibility. >> >> Whose responsibility is it to get detected spam delivered into the >> correct folder?  

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

Phil Howard put forth on 6/1/2010 9:15 AM: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:04, Jerry wrote: > >> The fight against SPAM is NOT Dovecots responsibility. > > Whose responsibility is it to get detected spam delivered into the > correct folder? Dovecot deliver is typically used to deliver into the > In

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:01, William Blunn wrote: > Get your anti-spam software to add header records to the messages, then use > Dovecot LDA Sieve to filter based on those header records. So I can run Sieve as part of the deliver? Or does it run soon after that?

Re: [Dovecot] 2.0.beta4, Panic: stream doesn't support seekingbackwards

Timo Sirainen wrote: >Well, I can't reproduce this in a normal way. But by changing the code I >managed to cause it. Does this fix it also for you? >http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.0/rev/941608f8b3fb > I've installed the patch. I'll let you know how it goes. -- Mark Sapiro The highway

Re: [Dovecot] 2.0.beta4, Panic: stream doesn't support seeking backwards

Well, I can't reproduce this in a normal way. But by changing the code I managed to cause it. Does this fix it also for you? http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.0/rev/941608f8b3fb

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On 01/06/2010 14:42, Phil Howard wrote: I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot features can be used in the fight against spam. One hit came up in a search, and it was about how to fight spam in the MoinMoin Wiki itself (e.g. TextCHAs and such). I already asked in anothe

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:45, Rainer Frey wrote: > I guess you'll have the mental transfer of "fight spam" into "cause dovecot to > perform this and that action" yourself. The possible actions are, in general, > documented. I cannot determine how deliver with an empty string give to -m would beh

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:21, Frank Elsner wrote: > Ok, you obviously have a different environment and requirements. > > - I do the delivery into special folder by the MTA (exim) and the LDA is >  not used at all. > > - detection training is not done. > > > Sorry, my world may be to narrow :-) E

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tuesday 01 June 2010 15:42:18 Phil Howard wrote: > I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot > features can be used in the fight against spam. One hit came up in a > search, and it was about how to fight spam in the MoinMoin Wiki itself > (e.g. TextCHAs and such). I guess

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On 2010-06-01 10:34 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: > There is also a plugin for dovecot that makes it easy for users to > reclassify stuff as spam or not spam by simply moving the messages to > the appropriate folder, but I think it is mainly designed for DSPAM... > anyone using it with spamassassin? S

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On 2010-06-01 9:42 AM, Phil Howard wrote: > I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot > features can be used in the fight against spam. One hit came up in a > search, and it was about how to fight spam in the MoinMoin Wiki itself > (e.g. TextCHAs and such). 1. Set up postfix

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:02:56 -0400 Phil Howard wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:54, Frank Elsner > wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:42:18 -0400 Phil Howard wrote: > >> I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot > >> features can be used in the fight against spam.  One hit ca

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:04, Jerry wrote: > The fight against SPAM is NOT Dovecots responsibility. Whose responsibility is it to get detected spam delivered into the correct folder? Dovecot deliver is typically used to deliver into the Inbox(es). It would be involved. Note that I am not sayi

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:56, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-06-01 8:39 AM, Phil Howard wrote: >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 17:30, Charles Marcus wrote: >>> Of course it is meant for people, but it is meant to show only the >>> bare minimum of what postfix sees as the settings. It is left up to >>>

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:42:18 -0400 Phil Howard articulated: > I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot > features can be used in the fight against spam. One hit came up in a > search, and it was about how to fight spam in the MoinMoin Wiki itself > (e.g. TextCHAs and such)

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:54, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:42:18 -0400 Phil Howard wrote: >> I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot >> features can be used in the fight against spam.  One hit came up in a >> search, and it was about how to fight spam in the

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

On 2010-06-01 8:39 AM, Phil Howard wrote: > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 17:30, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Of course it is meant for people, but it is meant to show only the >> bare minimum of what postfix sees as the settings. It is left up to >> you, the sys admin, to be able to interpret the data as p

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:42:18 -0400 Phil Howard wrote: > I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot > features can be used in the fight against spam. One hit came up in a > search, and it was about how to fight spam in the MoinMoin Wiki itself > (e.g. TextCHAs and such). Fighti

[Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot features can be used in the fight against spam. One hit came up in a search, and it was about how to fight spam in the MoinMoin Wiki itself (e.g. TextCHAs and such). I already asked in another thread about removing message files at t

Re: [Dovecot] purge maildir folder after sa-learn

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:03, Eric Shubert wrote: > That's what I do. I move them either to a (shared) ham or spam folder, and > run the script posted earlier, which processes and deletes them. Thanks. I just wanted to be sure such a move would not effect (corrupt) what Dovecot was doing (e.g.

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 17:30, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-05-28 5:01 PM, Phil Howard wrote: >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 16:53, Charles Marcus wrote: >>> The whole purpose of the -n output is to provide clean, easy to read >>> *settings* as seen by postfix (as opposed to comments that are meant

Re: [Dovecot] Migration - Dovecot to Dovecot

http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Tools/dsync It will probably do. []'sf.rique On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Greg Pearson wrote: > Hi, > I am using Dovecot with mbox format, and I am interested to move to > Maildir. I have run the modified script (mb2md) but it seems UIDs are not > preserved. I don'

Re: [Dovecot] cur folder e-mails are not shown...

On 2010-06-01 4:27 AM, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: > The same happens with thunderbird where I deleted the account and > recreated new... Nothing older than 7 days... > > What can be happening? Thunderbird does have the ability to automatically delete messages - have you dbl-checked the Synchr

[Dovecot] Migration - Dovecot to Dovecot

Hi, I am using Dovecot with mbox format, and I am interested to move to Maildir. I have run the modified script (mb2md) but it seems UIDs are not preserved. I don't know how to verify this, but my client seems to be downloading all messages again. Can someone help?

Re: [Dovecot] cur folder e-mails are not shown...

Hi, I checked everything and seems to be not right. System is loosing lots of emails. I did a filter in the e-mail program that puts a copy of nonspam/nonmailist/clearmessage into a local folder and some messages dissappears from remote mail... I received some messages last week and I have no

Re: [Dovecot] RTFM: Manual pages for Dovecot v2.0

On 06/01/2010 08:51 AM Brandon Davidson wrote: > This is fantastic. When I get a moment, I'll definitely read them over. I > spent a good bit of time getting a Dovecot 2.0 test system set up this > weekend and I found myself flipping back and forth between Timo's release > announcements, sample con