Re: [DNSOP] draft-hsyu-message-fragments replacement status updated by Cindy Morgan

2022-04-29 Thread Johnson
Hi, Mukund,         This is Johnson, I'm very sorry to cause you so much trouble.                   I think the draft of draft-muks-dns-message-fragments that you submitted to the IETF is quite interesting and shows the importance of dns packet fragmentation in th

[DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 7793

2023-09-15 Thread Von Johnson
Please help me return this to normal ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 7793

2023-09-19 Thread Von Johnson
was established by the holder of the server’s private key Why does my public IP address have me showing in new York city? On Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 11:04 PM Paul Wouters wrote: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2023, Von Johnson wrote: > > > Hello. Any updates? > > There will be no updates fr

[DNSOP] IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
asked for an i-d, to clarify the requests, and that said i-d be sent to this list for review. Please find the approptiate draft here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ Relevant IANA requests: https://tools.iana.org/public-view/viewticket/1364843 https://tools.iana.org

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
ters. Thanks, Scott Mark On 25 Jun 2024, at 08:19, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi All, After reading the recent discussion about WALLET, I am hesitant to jump into the fray here, but this plainly is the correct group to help me get my logic and syntax right, so here goes: I submitted request

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Mark, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: On 25 Jun 2024, at 10:32, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Mark, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: An obvious correction “LTP--v6” -> “LTP-v6” Aha! Good eye. For IPN why isn’t the wire format two network 64 bit integers? That

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Scott, Wire format of 64 bit unsigned integer it is for IPN. Updated draft (03) incorporating all changes posted at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ Let me know if you see anything else, Mark, and thanks! ScottJ On Mon, 24 Jun 2024, sburleig...@gmail.com wrote

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Mark, Noted and changed. Good stuff, thanks. Updated draft (04) at datatracker using that verbiage: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ Is it appropriate to add an acknowledgments section or co-authors at this point? As well, should I be asking for WG adoption

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Mark, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: On 25 Jun 2024, at 16:36, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Mark, Noted and changed. Good stuff, thanks. Updated draft (04) at datatracker using that verbiage: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ Is it appropriate to add

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Erik, Cross posted to DTN list for any such discussion, if they so desire. The draft in question is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ Thanks, ScottJ On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Erik Kline wrote: Speaking as the responsible AD for DTN, I think the DTN working group

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
al Message- From: Scott Johnson [mailto:sc...@spacelypackets.com] Sent: 25 June 2024 10:57 To: Erik Kline Cc: dnsop; sburleig...@gmail.com; d...@ietf.org Subject: [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171 Hi Erik, Cross posted to DTN list for any such discussio

[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
/www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9174.html#section-4.4.2 -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:57 AM To: Erik Kline Cc: dnsop ; sburleig...@gmail.com; d...@ietf.org Subject: [EXT] [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171 APL exte

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: [EXT] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
itor.org/rfc/rfc9174.html#section-4.4.2 -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:57 AM To: Erik Kline Cc: dnsop ; sburleig...@gmail.com; d...@ietf.org Subject: [EXT] [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171 APL external ema

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi All, A new version of this draft (06) has been posted here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ This includes edits from Scott Burleigh, as well as edits based on the feedback from Brian and Rick, but for the references to specs for existing CLAs in use in the wild

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
ScottJ Rick P.S. I'm sure Brian Sipos has a more flexible solution using his EID Patterns under the `ipn.arpa` TLD, but I don't want to muddy the waters by trying to introduce it now -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson [mailto:sc...@spacelypackets.com] Sent: 26 June 2024

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
e Engineer; AX Enterprize, LLC ___ From: Rick Taylor Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:11 PM To: Scott Johnson Cc: Erik Kline ; dnsop ; sburleig...@gmail.com ; d...@ietf.org Subject: [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bund

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
formation I placed in the "Purpose" section of the draft, per your request, is all I am at liberty and willing to disclose at this time. Thanks, ScottJ Cheers, Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson [mailto:sc...@spacelypackets.com] Sent: 26 June 2024 21:32 To

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Mark, On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: I broached the possibility of CBOR in discussion on DNSOP before DTN was CCed, making the above point to Scott Burleigh. Our conclusion there, along with Mark Andrews, was that the current verbiage is the current best course of action. I hav

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Paul, Thanks for jumping in. Comments inline. On Wed, 26 Jun 2024, Paul Vixie wrote: Mark Andrews wrote on 2024-06-26 16:02: ... Adding a new RRTYPE requires zero infrastructure upgrades. It’s a database entry at IANA. Every DNS server on the planet should handle these transpar

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-28 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Rick, As I have previously stated, I personally have lodged no objection to using CBOR encoding of (node-nbr) in this case, and actually mentioned the option myself. Here is the situation as I see it: I have requested the creation in the IANA database of the IPN and CLA RRTYPEs, by the m

[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] [dtn] Re: RE: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-29 Thread Scott Johnson
SRV 0 0 4556 host-b.example.com. _ltp-deepspace._udp.host-b 86400 IN SRV 0 0 1113 host-b.example.com. host-c 86400 IN A host-c 86400 IN _dtn-bundle._udp.host-c 86400 IN SRV 0 0 4556 host-c.example.com. ) [RFC2782] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2782.html

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-29 Thread Scott Johnson
dtnrg-ipnd/), I refreshed that draft when I completed updating the implementation to be compliant with it. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dtn-ipnd/ that describes a peer discovery mechanism, not a CLA. Agreed, but it is a mechanism that allows fully automated distributio

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-29 Thread Scott Johnson
presentation including some basic examples showing how applications will benefit using this proposed DNS based solution ? Regards Jorge On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 4:12 AM Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Rick, As I have previously stated, I personally have lodged no objection to using CBOR

[DNSOP] draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla-07

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi All, Please find a new version of this draft, revised per recommendations from DNSOP and DTN members. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ I would be willing to entertain DTN WG taking up this document if there is an alternate proposal for the syntax for CLA RRTYPE

[DNSOP] An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-22 Thread Scott Johnson
exact venue for WG adoption, given the scope of the concepts. As such will I refrain from asking for WG adoption at this time, pending discussion from the DTN and DNS communities. Please find the draft here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-interplanetary-dns/ I would also be

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-22 Thread Scott Johnson
something else to do with my time, but for now, I manage to feed my kids with pure research and development like this, so I think I am going to keep at it ;) Thanks, ScottJ --Ben ___ From: Nordgren, Bryce - FS, MT Sent: M

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-22 Thread Scott Johnson
e land and serving people     _______ From: Scott Johnson Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 3:00 AM To: d...@ietf.org ; dnsop@ietf.org Cc: ipnsig...@googlegroups.com ; awg-ipn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model   Hi Everyone, Sorry for the 4-way cross posting, but I wanted to r

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-23 Thread Scott Johnson
rification. ScottJ Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) ond...@isc.org My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours. On 22. 7. 2024, at 14:25, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Bryce, Interesting. This is the second r

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Lorenzo, I may have accidentally trimmed the lists from my previous reply, thanks for reincluding them! On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote: Il giorno mar 23 lug 2024 alle ore 08:16 Scott Johnson ha scritto: Hi Lorenzo, On Mon, 22 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
ad of time, because I know what is coming ;) ScottJ --Ben ___ From: Scott Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 3:02 AM To: Lorenzo Breda Cc: d...@ietf.org ; dnsop@ietf.org Subject: [DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model  

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Lorenzo, On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote: Il giorno mer 24 lug 2024 alle ore 09:02 Scott Johnson ha scritto: Hi Lorenzo, [omissis] Pardon the background tangent; It was pretty interesting. Glad you enjoyed it.   I will now address your point regarding

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Marc, On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, Marc Blanchet wrote: Le 24 juill. 2024 à 11:42, Lorenzo Breda a écrit : Why are you against leaving the current TLDs implicitly on Earth by default? Right. One do not need a special TLD for space. We can use what we have and it just works fine.

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Lorenzo, On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote: Il giorno mer 24 lug 2024 alle ore 22:24 Scott Johnson ha scritto: > it would > be break signatures (eg on API payloads and on emails, Funny you should mention email, as I am in the process of construc

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Marc, Why are you against leaving the current TLDs implicitly on Earth by default? Right. One do not need a special TLD for space. We can use what we have and it just works fine. I do not disagree with this notion as respects my proposed architecture. 3rd level domains mapped to off-worl

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Lorenzo, OK. I will ruminate on this for a bit. I think it will be workable, but I need to examine system-wide ramifications before I can confirm that. Thanks, ScottJ On Thu, 25 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote: It interacts with other email system as a regular email (with some signatur

[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] [dtn] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-25 Thread Scott Johnson
rum-TLS-BR-2.0.5.pdf -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 4:44 PM To: Marc Blanchet Cc: Lorenzo Breda ; DTN WG ; dnsop Subject: [EXT] [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] An Interplanetary DNS Model APL external email warning: Verify sender forwardingalgori...@ietf.org befor

[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] [dtn] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-27 Thread Scott Johnson
nt meaning though). The DNS already provides a facility to have human-facing relative/unqualified names while the tools resolve to and manage qualified names, so there isn't a need for new terms or techniques here. -Original Message----- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2

[DNSOP] Can an RRSET remain valid past the expiration timestamp on its signing RRSIG?

2019-07-23 Thread Nick Johnson
rely on it to validate other RRSIGs for the entire 3600 seconds? -Nick Johnson ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Can an RRSET remain valid past the expiration timestamp on its signing RRSIG?

2019-07-24 Thread Nick Johnson
> current time. > > That last bullet point tells that if the signature's expiration time is > smaller than the TTLs received in the response, the RRset is cached for > at most the duration until the signature expires. > > On 7/24/19 7:50 AM, Nick Johnson wrote: > &

[DNSOP] What is the purpose of NSEC3 "closest encloser" proofs?

2020-10-08 Thread Nick Johnson
istence? For example, if I want to prove the nonexistence of a.b.c.example, isn't it sufficient to validate an NSEC3 record that covers that name and is one level higher (eg, somehash.b.c.example)? Why do I need to prove the closest-encloser with a secon

Re: [DNSOP] What is the purpose of NSEC3 "closest encloser" proofs?

2020-10-08 Thread Nick Johnson
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:59 PM Shumon Huque wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:46 PM Nick Johnson 40ethereum@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> I'm reading RFC 5155, and I'm a bit puzzled by the requirement for >> "closest encloser" proofs to prove nonexi

Re: [DNSOP] Enough to break a camel's back?

2018-04-25 Thread Nick Johnson
No, I left out RFCs only referenced by "obsoletes" metadata. On Wed, 25 Apr 2018, 13:11 Paul Wouters, wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2018, at 06:37, Nick Johnson wrote: > > > So I threw together a quick script > <https://gist.github.com/Arachnid/c51b450b0c80eb2

Re: [DNSOP] Enough to break a camel's back?

2018-04-25 Thread Nick Johnson
Just discovered it lacks RFCs 4035 and 5702 as well. So it's definitely on the conservative side. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 2:38 PM Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2018, Nick Johnson wrote: > > > No, I left out RFCs only referenced by "obsoletes" metadata.

[DNSOP] Verifying TLD operator authorisation

2019-06-13 Thread Nick Johnson
rary messages using their keys. Are there domains that are globally reserved for the operator across all TLDs? If not, does anyone have any recommendations on an alternative authorisation or authentication mechanism? -Nick Johnson ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP

Re: [DNSOP] Verifying TLD operator authorisation

2019-06-13 Thread Nick Johnson
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 2:30 PM Joe Abley wrote: > On Jun 13, 2019, at 22:18, Nick Johnson > wrote: > > > I'm working on a system that needs to authenticate a TLD owner/operator > in order to take specific actions. > > Can you give an example of the actions? &g

Re: [DNSOP] Verifying TLD operator authorisation

2019-06-13 Thread Nick Johnson
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 2:51 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote: > > > On 13 Jun 2019, at 23:18, Nick Johnson > wrote: > > I'm working on a system that needs to authenticate a TLD owner/operator in > order to take specific actions. We had intended to handle this by requiring >

Re: [DNSOP] Verifying TLD operator authorisation

2019-06-13 Thread Nick Johnson
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 3:02 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote: > > > On 13 Jun 2019, at 23:56, Nick Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 2:51 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote: > >> >> >> On 13 Jun 2019, at 23:18, Nick Johnson < >> nick=40ethereum@dmarc.ietf.o

Re: [DNSOP] Verifying TLD operator authorisation

2019-06-15 Thread Nick Johnson
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 7:12 PM Shane Kerr wrote: > Nick, > > On 14/06/2019 04.18, Nick Johnson wrote: > > I'm working on a system that needs to authenticate a TLD owner/operator > > in order to take specific actions. We had intended to handle this by > > requir

Re: [DNSOP] Verifying TLD operator authorisation

2019-06-19 Thread Nick Johnson
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:15 PM Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: > The SOA record for a TLD contains two DNS names which should be > under the control of the NIC: that of the primary master > nameserver, and the e-mail of the responsible administrator > (which includes a domain name). > This seems