[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] [dtn] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-27 Thread Scott Johnson
nt meaning though). The DNS already provides a facility to have human-facing relative/unqualified names while the tools resolve to and manage qualified names, so there isn't a need for new terms or techniques here. -Original Message----- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2

[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] [dtn] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-25 Thread Scott Johnson
rum-TLS-BR-2.0.5.pdf -Original Message----- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 4:44 PM To: Marc Blanchet Cc: Lorenzo Breda ; DTN WG ; dnsop Subject: [EXT] [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] An Interplanetary DNS Model APL external email warning: Verify sender forwardingalgori...@ietf.org befor

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Lorenzo, OK. I will ruminate on this for a bit. I think it will be workable, but I need to examine system-wide ramifications before I can confirm that. Thanks, ScottJ On Thu, 25 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote: It interacts with other email system as a regular email (with some signatur

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Marc, Why are you against leaving the current TLDs implicitly on Earth by default? Right. One do not need a special TLD for space. We can use what we have and it just works fine. I do not disagree with this notion as respects my proposed architecture. 3rd level domains mapped to off-worl

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Lorenzo, On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote: Il giorno mer 24 lug 2024 alle ore 22:24 Scott Johnson ha scritto: > it would > be break signatures (eg on API payloads and on emails, Funny you should mention email, as I am in the process of construc

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Marc, On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, Marc Blanchet wrote: Le 24 juill. 2024 à 11:42, Lorenzo Breda a écrit : Why are you against leaving the current TLDs implicitly on Earth by default? Right. One do not need a special TLD for space. We can use what we have and it just works fine.

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Lorenzo, On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote: Il giorno mer 24 lug 2024 alle ore 09:02 Scott Johnson ha scritto: Hi Lorenzo, [omissis] Pardon the background tangent; It was pretty interesting. Glad you enjoyed it.   I will now address your point regarding

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
ad of time, because I know what is coming ;) ScottJ --Ben ___ From: Scott Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 3:02 AM To: Lorenzo Breda Cc: d...@ietf.org ; dnsop@ietf.org Subject: [DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model  

[DNSOP] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Lorenzo, I may have accidentally trimmed the lists from my previous reply, thanks for reincluding them! On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote: Il giorno mar 23 lug 2024 alle ore 08:16 Scott Johnson ha scritto: Hi Lorenzo, On Mon, 22 Jul 2024, Lorenzo Breda wrote

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-23 Thread Scott Johnson
rification. ScottJ Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) ond...@isc.org My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours. On 22. 7. 2024, at 14:25, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Bryce, Interesting. This is the second r

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-22 Thread Scott Johnson
e land and serving people     _______ From: Scott Johnson Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 3:00 AM To: d...@ietf.org ; dnsop@ietf.org Cc: ipnsig...@googlegroups.com ; awg-ipn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model   Hi Everyone, Sorry for the 4-way cross posting, but I wanted to r

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-22 Thread Scott Johnson
something else to do with my time, but for now, I manage to feed my kids with pure research and development like this, so I think I am going to keep at it ;) Thanks, ScottJ --Ben ___ From: Nordgren, Bryce - FS, MT Sent: M

[DNSOP] An Interplanetary DNS Model

2024-07-22 Thread Scott Johnson
interested in revisiting Marc Blanchet's smtp and http over BP related drafts in the light of the above document, to see if adaptation can be made to make these efforts dovetail together. Thanks to all, Scott Johnson Spacely Packets, LCC ___ DNSOP ma

[DNSOP] draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla-07

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Johnson
course of action is taken, these are only suggested values, but Section 3.2 of the draft governs the bounds of what those values _may_ be; basically a TXT with additional limitations as to character set. Thanks, Scott Johnson ___ DNSOP mailing list

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-29 Thread Scott Johnson
presentation including some basic examples showing how applications will benefit using this proposed DNS based solution ? Regards Jorge On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 4:12 AM Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Rick, As I have previously stated, I personally have lodged no objection to using CBOR

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-29 Thread Scott Johnson
e? This is not an unreasonable way to address the problem, listing all combinations of (letter, number, interior hyphen) as within private use, but for those ennumerated in the list. Please feel free to ignore any or all of my comments if you disagree, they are meant to be constructive, no

[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] [dtn] Re: RE: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-29 Thread Scott Johnson
SRV 0 0 4556 host-b.example.com. _ltp-deepspace._udp.host-b 86400 IN SRV 0 0 1113 host-b.example.com. host-c 86400 IN A host-c 86400 IN _dtn-bundle._udp.host-c 86400 IN SRV 0 0 4556 host-c.example.com. ) [RFC2782] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2782.html

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-28 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Rick, As I have previously stated, I personally have lodged no objection to using CBOR encoding of (node-nbr) in this case, and actually mentioned the option myself. Here is the situation as I see it: I have requested the creation in the IANA database of the IPN and CLA RRTYPEs, by the m

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Paul, Thanks for jumping in. Comments inline. On Wed, 26 Jun 2024, Paul Vixie wrote: Mark Andrews wrote on 2024-06-26 16:02: ... Adding a new RRTYPE requires zero infrastructure upgrades. It’s a database entry at IANA. Every DNS server on the planet should handle these transpar

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Mark, On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: I broached the possibility of CBOR in discussion on DNSOP before DTN was CCed, making the above point to Scott Burleigh. Our conclusion there, along with Mark Andrews, was that the current verbiage is the current best course of action. I hav

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
formation I placed in the "Purpose" section of the draft, per your request, is all I am at liberty and willing to disclose at this time. Thanks, ScottJ Cheers, Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson [mailto:sc...@spacelypackets.com] Sent: 26 June 2024 21:32 To

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
e Engineer; AX Enterprize, LLC ___ From: Rick Taylor Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:11 PM To: Scott Johnson Cc: Erik Kline ; dnsop ; sburleig...@gmail.com ; d...@ietf.org Subject: [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bund

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-26 Thread Scott Johnson
ScottJ Rick P.S. I'm sure Brian Sipos has a more flexible solution using his EID Patterns under the `ipn.arpa` TLD, but I don't want to muddy the waters by trying to introduce it now -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson [mailto:sc...@spacelypackets.com] Sent: 26 June 2024

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
. Happy to hear any further comments. Thanks, ScottJ On Wed, 26 Jun 2024, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Rick, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Rick Taylor wrote: Hi Scott, Thanks for publishing this doc, it looks really interesting. You are welcome. Thanks for taking the time to review. One thing I am

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: [EXT] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
itor.org/rfc/rfc9174.html#section-4.4.2 -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:57 AM To: Erik Kline Cc: dnsop ; sburleig...@gmail.com; d...@ietf.org Subject: [EXT] [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171 APL external ema

[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
/www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9174.html#section-4.4.2 -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:57 AM To: Erik Kline Cc: dnsop ; sburleig...@gmail.com; d...@ietf.org Subject: [EXT] [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171 APL exte

[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
al Message- From: Scott Johnson [mailto:sc...@spacelypackets.com] Sent: 25 June 2024 10:57 To: Erik Kline Cc: dnsop; sburleig...@gmail.com; d...@ietf.org Subject: [dtn] Re: [DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171 Hi Erik, Cross posted to DTN list for any such discussio

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
should probably have a discussion about what it wants to do (if anything) vis. DNS RRs. On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 08:27 Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Mark, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: > > >> On 25 Jun 2024, at 16:36, Scott Johnson

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-25 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Mark, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: On 25 Jun 2024, at 16:36, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Mark, Noted and changed. Good stuff, thanks. Updated draft (04) at datatracker using that verbiage: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ Is it appropriate to add

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
15:22, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Scott, Wire format of 64 bit unsigned integer it is for IPN. Updated draft (03) incorporating all changes posted at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-dns-ipn-cla/ Let me know if you see anything else, Mark, and thanks! ScottJ On Mon, 24 Jun 2024

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
IPN node number. Scott -Original Message- From: Scott Johnson Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 8:26 PM To: Mark Andrews ; sburleig...@gmail.com Cc: dnsop Subject: Re: [DNSOP] IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171 Hi Mark, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: On 25

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi Mark, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: On 25 Jun 2024, at 10:32, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi Mark, On Tue, 25 Jun 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: An obvious correction “LTP--v6” -> “LTP-v6” Aha! Good eye. For IPN why isn’t the wire format two network 64 bit integers? That

[DNSOP] Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
ters. Thanks, Scott Mark On 25 Jun 2024, at 08:19, Scott Johnson wrote: Hi All, After reading the recent discussion about WALLET, I am hesitant to jump into the fray here, but this plainly is the correct group to help me get my logic and syntax right, so here goes: I submitted request

[DNSOP] IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Johnson
Hi All, After reading the recent discussion about WALLET, I am hesitant to jump into the fray here, but this plainly is the correct group to help me get my logic and syntax right, so here goes: I submitted requests to IANA for IPN and CLA RRTYPEs, these representing the missing datasets nece