Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Edward Lewis writes: > At 16:08 -0400 9/3/09, Lee Howard wrote: > > >You can AXFR, or you can use the same algorithm: > > That's the issue, keeping the zone's contents coherent (AXFR) or the > zone's synthesis coherent (copying the algorithm from A to B). > > >generate on the fly-

Re: [DNSOP] A practical solution for ISP-level support of the reverse DNS tree for IPv6

2009-09-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Ted Lemon writes : > On Sep 3, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Lee Howard wrote: > > Education needed: how do you tell a residential user what server > > will accept their dynamic PTR updates? > > I think this is an unnecessarily difficult answer. Maintaining the > zones at the ISP is a reci

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <002701ca2caf$549d3bd0$fdd7b3...@org>, "Lee Howard" writes: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Mark > > Andrews > > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:53 PM > > To: Doug Barton > > Cc: dnsop > > Subject: Re:

Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-03 Thread Masataka Ohta
Lee Howard wrote: >>1) Zone transfers? > Is this a requirement for IP6.ARPA zones used for residential users? Even if it were, you can use notify and IXFR. But, as availability of dynamic update of DNS is not very high (there is only one master server), don't mind so many 9s. >>2) Dynamic upda

Re: [DNSOP] new Questions...

2009-09-03 Thread Todd Glassey
Dean Anderson wrote: Todd is right. While I rather doubt that the USG /would/ shut down the roots or ARIN (thats pretty extreme), I believe the objective of the bill is to make explicit and indisputable USG control over infrastructure. As I understand it, the objective of the bill is so that the

Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Edward > Lewis > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:07 PM > To: Lee Howard > Cc: dnsop@ietf.org; 'Edward Lewis' > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6..

Re: [DNSOP] A practical solution for ISP-level support of the reverse DNS tree for IPv6

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:05 PM > To: Lee Howard > Cc: 'dnsop' > Subject: [DNSOP] A practical solution for ISP-level support of the reverse DNS tree for > IPv6 > > On S

Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-03 Thread Edward Lewis
At 16:08 -0400 9/3/09, Lee Howard wrote: You can AXFR, or you can use the same algorithm: That's the issue, keeping the zone's contents coherent (AXFR) or the zone's synthesis coherent (copying the algorithm from A to B). generate on the fly--seems to be common practice already. It doesn'

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-03 Thread David Conrad
Mark, On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: On Sep 2, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: With IPv6 the address blocks should be stable to ALL customers. Buy stock in memory manufacturers for routing vendors. People don't move house very often. ... ISP's don't split POPs very o

Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Edward > Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:35 PM > To: fujiw...@jprs.co.jp > Cc: dnsop@ietf.org; ed.le...@neustar.biz > Subject: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for

[DNSOP] A practical solution for ISP-level support of the reverse DNS tree for IPv6

2009-09-03 Thread Ted Lemon
On Sep 3, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Lee Howard wrote: Education needed: how do you tell a residential user what server will accept their dynamic PTR updates? I think this is an unnecessarily difficult answer. Maintaining the zones at the ISP is a recipe for DoS attacks, bad configuration, angry

Re: [DNSOP] new Questions...

2009-09-03 Thread Todd Glassey
Dean Anderson wrote: BTW, RFC2870 is not the authority on root server operations. The authority is found in the MoU with ICANN that root server operators are supposed to sign. Rumor has it that many root server operaters haven't signed the MoU, defying ICANN's authority over their operation.

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Douglas > Otis > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:18 PM > To: Doug Barton > Cc: dnsop; Shane Kerr > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00 > > Saying IPv6

Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-03 Thread Edward Lewis
At 11:49 -0400 9/3/09, Lee Howard wrote: -Original Message- From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org ... On Behalf Of Edward Lewis 1) Zone transfers? Is this a requirement for IP6.ARPA zones used for residential users? Kind of. To achieve a sufficient number "9's" of availabilty (that is "

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Andrews > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:53 PM > To: Doug Barton > Cc: dnsop > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00 > > Windows already attempts to

Re: [DNSOP] new Questions...

2009-09-03 Thread Paul Vixie
> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:48:21 -0700 > From: Todd Glassey > > Actually Dean - good point - the MOU was never codified in a formal > contract meaning that the US Department of Commerce still formally owns > the root's and so under this newly proposed cyber-control law would give > the US Presid