On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 03:47:10PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 21:44:51 +0200
> > Dragan FOSS wrote:
> >
> > > On 07/14/2017 07:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > philosopher
> > >
> > > NoI'm just a little grain of san
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 06:39:16PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > Hendrix fan, and I love Dylan's lyrics, especially when others are
> > singing them.
> >
> > And who the heck is BSG? BackStreet Girls?
>
> The exact famous scene is not openly onli
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 09:23:34PM +0200, marc wrote:
> > > > - Devuan Beowulf will be the next testing, and will follow Ascii
> > >
> > > You do realize issues when talking about this on Slashdot, naked and
> > > petrified?
> >
> > I am evidently missing something, but I can't see what.
>
> Tha
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:14:43PM -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> > Dragan FOSS wrote:
> > >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste of
> > >time and resources.
> >
> >
> > As long as you're pruning, kill x64 as well
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:45:23AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
> The bad news is that if this is the only step I take, "apt-get" will
> want to upgrade 1248 packages (it looks more impressive when I write it
> out . . One Thousand, Two Hundred and Forty Eight packages) with a
> download size of 608
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 06:50:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > you might probably want to have a look at:
> >
> > http://popcon.devuan.org/
> >
> > Whatever the statistical significance of those data, it seems that
> > between 15%
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 12:57:30AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> And, as this thread goes, you're not going to run a bloated DE on such an
> underpowered machine, are you?
I see no point in running a bloated DE at all.
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On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 09:17:29PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
>
> So the analogy is, I wouldn't expect "support" for all this "new"
> stuff on an old vehicle. Similarly, as other have suggested, if I
> was running very old hardware, I'd probably not be too worried about
> being able to run all
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 09:31:46AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2017, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Please help keep 32-bit architecture alive. I've been running
> > Devuan since the alpha-2 release.
>
> Knowing well the aims and values of our team I can alrea
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 08:57:21PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Hendrik Boom writes:
> >How much source code actually cares whether pointers are 32 or 64 bits?
> >How many packages are ctually affected?
> >Any guesses?
>
> a+b.
>
> a = the number of things
I change the subject line again. I wish people would do this more often.
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 03:15:46PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 26/07/2017 à 12:49, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit :
> >I wouldn't claim C++ itself is bad, but it seems to have a massive
> >attraction to incompet
On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 09:28:02AM +, Weaver wrote:
> Greetings.
> Currently running Debian SID, with separate /, swap, and /home
> partitions.
> I don't suppose switching is as easy as simply replacing the / partition
> with a new install, preserving the old data?
When I do anything like that
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 03:45:08PM +0200, Evilham wrote:
>
> I'd recommend taking a look at this:
> https://www.slideshare.net/opennebula/opennebulaconf2015-112-the-status-of-devuan-project-alberto-zuin
The slide "Why I Hate systemd" is likely to derail discussion because of
the loaded word "ha
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 04:29:50PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 15/08/2017 at 05:13, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> > FYI Many big companies get intel to include classified instruction
> > sets to give them some kind of competitive edge.
> >
> > I can't find the link but it was in a bloomberg arti
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:42:50AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:27:13 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> <20170815012713.ga7...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 03:45:08PM +0200, Evilham wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I'd recommend taking a look at this:
> > > https:
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 02:17:03AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Every time one uses the word "cgroups" he's subtly arguing for
> systemd. Every time one uses the word "DE" he's subtly arguing for
> complex, and usually bloated, GOSFUIs.
Just wondering. Does Android use cgroups in its attampt to ke
In aptitude, running interactively, when highlighting "New Packages" it gives
the explanation
These packages have been added to Debian ...
Presumably it should say Devuan.
I'll leave it to others to decide whether this is worth changing...
But if it *is* worth changing, maybe there should be a
I installed golang-1.7 and could not find golang's main executable "go".
Did not know how to set the main envvironment variables "GOROOT" and
"GOPATH".
Uninstalled it, and installed golang, and that executable was readily
found. But that's version 1.3.3, which is likely quite obsolete
conside
ation from source, and from
binaries, which I havven't tries yet.
I had rather hoped to install from the regular Debian/Devuan packages
but it's starting to seem hopeless.
-- hendrik
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Hendrik Boom
> wrote:
>
> > I installed gol
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 03:37:18PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> In general, you should start packaging or repackaging something only
> if you wish to act as a maintainer for the package, i.e., if you are
> willing to keep the package updated with upstream developments. Having
> hundreds of forked packa
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:42:59PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Hendrik Boom writes:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 02:54:57PM +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> >> I have it installed in windows at work.
> >>
> >> These might be useful to you.
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:08:09PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:59:54PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > I maintain that golang-1.7 is a defective package as is.
> >
> > Of course I'll follow the instructions on the golang
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 08:52:13AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:30:01PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Just to me some time -- what settings are you using for critical
> > environment variables like GOPATH and GOROOT?
&g
I'm trying to make sure I don't do something catastrophic by
misunderstanding.
I do
lvcreate --name ascii-root --size 3G jessie
to create a logical volume called "ascii-root" within the volume
group "jessie".
Then I look at the result by
ls /dev/mapper
and get:
root@notlookedfor:/# lvcreat
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 02:08:23PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 07:38:30AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I'm trying to make sure I don't do something catastrophic by
> > misunderstanding.
> >
> > I do
> >
> > lvcrea
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 01:41:57PM -0400, Gary Olzeke wrote:
> +3 for the eth0/wlan0 naming scheme - yes I'm stuffing the vote!!
...
> my ignorance may be showing here:
> I am surprised that there isn't an fstab-style record of MACs to ethX/wlanX
> that way a MOTD-style popup could alert for a chan
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 09:30:00PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Let me try to draw a distinction with some nuance, here: To the best of
> my knowledge -- and my knowledge might be incomplete or unaware of some
> new developments -- 'spontaneous' network device renaming, just like
> spontaneous mass s
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:48:53PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>
> That said in most cases where I have 2 or 3 interfaces it's generally
> been firewall/routers or Virtualisation Hosts in which case I always
> install ifrename and use an /etc/iftab to give a more purposeful name to
> the interfac
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 01:08:25AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> Manually creating the configuration -- or even manually triggering its
> creation -- is a pretty bad idea. It just guarantees you won't have working
> X when you make any change to your hardware -- and sometimes software as
> well
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Note that a similar problem with disks has been solved elegantly by
> referencing disks by their uuid or label in /etc/fstab. Maybe
> /etc/network/interface could specify the MAC address as a hook. This would
> only suppose that
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:36:16AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> So, this is again an advice that should be obvious for anyone, bold
> enough to delete parts of the file system, that can result in system
> breakage.
>
> There is a betwitched command, tar, that can be used to create
> archives of
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 02:34:36PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 at 23:23:47 +0200 (CEST)
> k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>
> > Manually creating xorg.conf is required if you e.g. has a serial
> > (rs232) mouse.
>
> Who does? Really, who today uses a mouse based on a technolo
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 06:54:11PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:45:27PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 02:34:36PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > > On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 at 23:23:47 +0200 (CEST)
> >
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 07:02:41PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 at 17:19:48 +0200
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> > AFAIR I fully agreed on that and then it jumped into my face that
> > the renaming wasn't necessary at all, because it is sufficient to know
> > the MAC addr
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:05:56AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> This idea does has some merit, but it cannot always prevent the necessity
> to reconfigure a system's networking due to a hardware change and to a
> sysadmin's specific needs; sometimes a cars with NIC 0b:45:81:f4:3e:01 is to
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 09:14:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> which is one of the most configurable WMDEs around (I have a temporary
> moritorium on the word GOSFUI).
Ah! How obvious! A Window Managing Development Environment!
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Grub seems a lot more complicated now than it used to be a few years
ago when I last upgraded Debian from one release to another.
My usual procedure is to copy the system to new partitions (adjusting
the size according to what I actually guess I might need),
editig the copied /etc/fstab, making
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 01:51:34PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 10:55 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Grub seems a lot more complicated now than it used to be a few years
> > ago when I last upgraded Debian from one release to another.
> >
> > My usual procedu
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 07:48:22PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Do I understand correctly that grub-install will scan my only hard
> > drive looking for (at least) bootable Linux systems? And that as a
> > result, running grub-install on th
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Now I can't figure out how to set options so that update-grub uses
> > os-prober.
>
> You do have the os-prober package installed, yes
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Now I can't figure out how to set options so that update-grub uses
> > os-prober.
>
> You do have the os-prober package installed, ye
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:50:42PM -0500, Hector Gonzalez wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 06:35 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >>On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>>Now I can't fi
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 08:25:19PM -0500, Hector Gonzalez wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 06:59 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:50:42PM -0500, Hector Gonzalez wrote:
> >>On 08/28/2017 06:35 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:1
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:15:03PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 07:59 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Anyway, as I mentined in another post a few minutes ago, it does seem
> > to be recognising it after all, but as a unknown Linux distro,
> > failing tto notice
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:40:06AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:15:03PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> > On 08/28/2017 07:59 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > > Anyway, as I mentined in another post a few minutes ago, it does seem
> > > to be
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:57:09AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:40:06AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > It's as if grub-update found the new system, but for perverse reasons
> > still used the /etc/fstab in the old system instead of the
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 02:23:27PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > However, when booting the unidentified Linux system, it mounts exactly
> > the same partitions as the old Linux system. It appears to
> > completely ignore the new /etc/fstab in
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 05:50:21PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 08/29/2017 11:09 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I've looked at the grub.cfg file in /boot. It explicitly contains the
> > name of the old root partition in the Linux line of the stanza for the new
> > sys
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 07:35:49PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
> On 31.08.2017 16:40, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>
> >I doubt it will be owner controlled, as their laptops aren't - they still
> >haven't even gotten a blobbed version of coreboot working (blobbed init
> >code + ME en
On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 11:53:46AM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>
> I take it you work for purismraptor has made a legitimately owner
> controlled computer - whats stopping you? (besides obsession over intel x86)
> It is possible to make a POWER laptop with todays lower wattage POWER cpu's.
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 12:36:59PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 11:53:46 -0400
> "taii...@gmx.com" wrote:
> >
> > I take it you work for purismraptor has made a legitimately owner
> > controlled computer - whats stopping you?
>
> The steep price.
Ditto. It's fa
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:45:34PM -0400, zap wrote:
> It would have only these things different:
>
> it would only be based off of unstable and experimental version, aka
> pure rolling release,
>
> it would be completely free software and use linux libre as the kernel,
>
> otherwise it would f
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:49:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Just a guess: A rolling-release Devuan wouldn't be especially popular.
Isn't Devuan testing a rolling release?
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On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:50:56AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:49:28AM +0200, arne wrote:
> >
> > Now the question: I run debian stretch.
> > is it hard to switch to devuan or is a new install preferred?
> >
>
> "upgrading" from Debian to Devuan is officially supported so f
I'm running xfce on Devuan Jessie.
When I start xfce, firefox autostarts.
This is annoying. I'll start firefox whn I want to see it.
I set the "session and startup" setting in firefox to "never".
But it keeps getting changed (I presume by firefox) to "If running".
This is obnoxious. Is there
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 04:56:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:49:28 +0200
> arne wrote:
>
> > Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan.
>
> I advise not to wait. Systemd's architecture is so overcomplexified
> that it takes a highly paid crew of what, six d
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:14:23PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> As I see it, most of the problem has to do with poorly written software
> that doesn't gracefully handle old configurations and little to do with
> how those configurations are stored in $HOME. I'll give Thompson a pass
> as the pr
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 02:47:00PM +, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> I'm trying not to go off topic here... But just a few more words...
Security in systems running Devuan is on topic here. We choose Devuan
in part for security, and to be effective, we need security ll the
way down.
>
> > I am
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 03:00:22PM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> El 18/09/17 a les 19:45, Steve Litt ha escrit:
>
> 2. I select desktop software for hundreds of users, and 99% of users
> that already use desktop computers installed by me (hundreds more), use
> Gnome. I don't want to face another c
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:30:21PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:42:18 -0500, dev wrote in message
> :
>
> >
> >
> > On 09/20/2017 01:47 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> >
> >
> > > At _least_ try Chromium before adopting a proprietary browser
> > > (Chrome). I don't know why so m
Because of discussions here about suitable open-source GUIs, I'm
pointing out that Qt4 is being dropped by Debian. So anyone wanting
Qt will have to use Qt5. I don't know what the portability or upgrade
implications are.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/08/msg6.html
-- he
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 05:21:17PM -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without
> trouble under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have
> to launch a Pcmanfm as root to access them. Lucky I learned this
> morning how to laun
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 06:27:59AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:41:08PM +0100, Dave Turner wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > The bottle of wine isn't quite finished yet, but I am not trying to force
> > anyone to stop using 'su'.
> >
> > It IS a really bad idea though, rummage the int
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 04:44:47PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> This terminology actually confused me for years. I thought "Trusted"
> connections were safer. But actually it's an option you're supposed to
> use in situations where the connection IS trustworthy and you want to
> run stuff w
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:42:45AM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 09/19/2017 02:47 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote
>
> >Unfortunately, that comes at too high high a price for many of us.
> >But the cheaper systems are riddled with unexaminable firmware.
> >There's no g
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 03:52:15PM +0100, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Jorge Gonçalves
> Date: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:31 AM
> Subject: X32 ABI build
> To: free...@devuan.org
>
>
> Hi!
> First, let me congratulate Devuan for the good job it has been do
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 03:50:13PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 09:35:30AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
> > One more way to spread it is by adding it to our signatures in the e-mail
> >
> > Devuan User : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan
> >
> >
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 03:46:39PM +0200, Bardot Jérôme wrote:
> redis (4:4.0.2-3) unstable; urgency=medium
>
> This version drops the Debian-specific support for the
> /etc/redis/redis-{server}.sentinel.{pre,post}-{up,down}.d directories in
> favour of using systemd's ExecStartPre, ExecStar
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:08:55PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:53:45 +0100
> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
>
> > Actually I´d make firmware pretty dumb and implement as much as I can
> > in loaded software. Just enough firmware to actually install / boot a
> > bootloader whic
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 01:56:06PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
> As my next music playback machine I may even use such a Pine64. As anything
> from ThinkPad X240 and upwards appears to be "protected" by Intel Boot Guard
> Verified Boot crap, instead of just offering the Measured Boot feat
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 08:24:34PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> There is always one reason or another for "a start job is running for -
> network interfaces/disks/etc)" which halts the entire boot process
> "faster", even without those it still is much slower than devuan.
Wow! Systemd even hal
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 12:13:11PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 12/11/2017 à 00:39, Svante Signell a écrit :
> >On Sat, 2017-11-11 at 13:33 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> >>> We use LaTEX in technical documents,
> >>LaTeX is wonderful *for what it does*, which is make beautifully
> >>typeset documen
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 03:07:09PM +0100, John Hughes wrote:
> On 14/11/17 12:53, Rowland Penny wrote:
> >On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:40:02 +0100
> >John Hughes wrote:
> >
> >>Why do you keep claiming the /usr problem is something to do with
> >>systemd?
> >Probably because it does, it wasn't really a
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:32:07PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:52:13 +0100, Didier wrote in message
> :
>
> > Le 19/11/2017 à 15:10, Jaromil a écrit :
> > > hi all
> > >
> > > Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being removed in Debian 9?
> > >
> >
> > Dunno how
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:53:49PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
>
> nono, as I wrote: that script doesn't works anymore, if ran on a
> freshly debootstrapped version of Debian 9. It seemed that rc.local
> wasn't executed anymore. But there is some confusion, since both brctl
> and ifconfig are legitimatel
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:34:15PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:55:36 -0500
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:53:49PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> > >
> > > nono, as I wrote: that script doesn't works anymore, if ran on
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 07:50:44PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>
> Whether /etc/rc.local will be run (and on what run levels) is, IMHO, a
> matter for *your* init system to decide. If your init system wants to
> cater to a decades long tradition of running /etc/rc.local at system
> startup, it
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 09:04:39PM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote:
>
> > Ok but this is not about NFS but about any FS that can be accessed over
> > network.
>
> It may help to point out something that I didn't spot when I first came
> across NFS.
>
> With SMB, AFS, F
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 06:23:46PM +, aitor_czr wrote:
> Dear Svante,
>
> On 02/12/17 20:49, Svante Signelll wrote:
>
> No need to be harsh..., it was just a typo.
And you made up for the missing 'l' by adding an extra one
into the 'On 02/12/17 20:49' line!
-- hendrik
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Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files:
/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
and
/etc/dhcpd.conf
on my Devuan Jessie system, which was upgraded from Debian preJessie
(I forget what that one was called)
They have similar, but not identical contents. Both have had items
added locally to define permanen
On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 10:51:04PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 04:34:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files:
> >
> > /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
> >
> > and
> >
> > /etc/dhcpd.conf
> >
&g
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 01:06:24AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 22:51 +, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 04:34:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files:
>
> /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
>
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 02:06:11PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2017 11 Dec 10:13 -0600, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > This is the original saling argument, but it is wrong. Several persons
> > have already reported that Devuan's sysvinit booted faster than
> > Debian's systemd.
>
> It seems that a
I m copying my entire Devuan system to new partitions on the same computer.
but I can't get the copy system to boot.
I plan to upgrade the copy to ascii, keeping the old system in dual-boot
scenario just in case I'm not expecting problems, but I've had them on Debian
upgrades years ago, and
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:10:09AM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> Am 16. Dezember 2017 23:55:46 MEZ schrieb Hendrik Boom
> :
>
> > vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-686-pae not found
> > you need to load the kernel first
>
> hallo hendrik,
>
> reading over your mail, i c
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:09:46AM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Samstag, 16. Dezember 2017 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > I m copying my entire Devuan system to new partitions on the same
> > computer. but I can't get the copy system to boot.
> >
> > I p
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:37:03PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 16/12/2017 à 23:55, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> >I m copying my entire Devuan system to new partitions on the same computer.
> >but I can't get the copy system to boot.
> >
> >I plan to upgrade th
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 02:03:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 21:42:05 -0500
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > How do I update the initrd?
>
> To update the /initrd/initramfs/ of a not-booting system, I chroot into
> it, (mount the /boot partitio
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:36:19PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 17/12/2017 à 19:13, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> >On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 02:03:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> >>On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 21:42:05 -0500
> >>Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>
> >>&
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:40:51PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2017-12-17 19:29, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> >Or should I start over, booting refracta instead of my new system and
> >using refracta to copy everything when everything isn't the workin
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:00:50PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 10:23:31 +0100
> Jaromil wrote:
>
> > yes, this is no true as you say. Devuan is a universal
> > distribution. Also we may consider ourselves to be all 'participants'
> > in it, rather than differentiate between 'us
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 10:54:00AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 10:30:40AM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> >
> > A quick search found
> > https://www.geekwire.com/2016/mac-overtakes-linux-as-developers-primary-os-windows-headed-below-50-market-share/
> >
>
> By looking at th
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 05:51:27AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 10:35:50 +0100
> "J. Fahrner" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I did a dist-upgrade from Devuan Jessie to Devuan Ascii.
> > Now I have a long boot wait, same message as described here:
> > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questio
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 04:37:10PM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Am 2017-12-23 16:16, schrieb Didier Kryn:
>
> > I'd be surprised the problem comes from initramfs. Not sure also
> >there is an fstab in the initramfs. When I crafted mines, I never felt
> >the need for an fstab, execept,for convenie
As I understand it, there are a few new file systems somewhat
available on Linux -- ZFS, XFS, and Btrfs.
But soe are still under development, ZFS is pparently under a
prolematic license, and I don't know about XFS.
I've onece heard about one of the new systems that one shouldn't
bother using i
On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 05:20:58PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > As I understand it, there are a few new file systems somewhat
> > available on Linux -- ZFS, XFS, and Btrfs.
> >
> > But soe are still under develop
On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 09:50:07PM -0800, Josef Grosch wrote:
> On 12/26/17 6:22 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 05:20:58PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> >> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> >>
> [ DELETED ]
> >
> > I'l
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 11:11:35AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> In other words, I prioritized the extreme amount of user testing of
> ext4 over the obvious convenience of btrfs. My prioritization isn't
> universal: In fact, I'm probably in the minority. But it's worked for
> me.
I'm in the same m
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 08:49:56PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 05:20:58PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> > btrfs is still scarily beta after rather a lot of years of development.
That's what worries me about btrfs.
'''
'''
> As for its state: btrfs is, well, btrfs. You get
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 05:55:46PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I m copying my entire Devuan system to new partitions on the same computer.
> but I can't get the copy system to boot.
>
> I plan to upgrade the copy to ascii, keeping the old system in dual-boot
> scenario j
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