Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 31 May 2016 08:50:08 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > dear Edward, > > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > I have just been informed Debian 8 (Jessie) can be installed without > > systemd by using the command: preseed/late_command="in-target > > apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" >

Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread Irrwahn
On Tue, 31 May 2016 08:50:08 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > >> I have just been informed Debian 8 (Jessie) can be installed without >> systemd by using the command: preseed/late_command="in-target >> apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" > > interesting that this

Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Thanks Steve for clarifying my position that I cannot trust Debian. For a very minimal Debian system what Debian claimed may be true, but when it comes to setting up a useable system, Systemd & Co. sneaks in. I despise software lock-ins, therefore, I cannot accept a project like systemd that

Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > I despise software lock-ins, therefore, I cannot accept a project like > systemd that infiltrates everywhere and that makes many assumptions on > how I run my OS basing on what the clueless often expect. I want my > setup as I want it to be including vi

[DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- new release

2016-05-31 Thread KatolaZ
Dear Devuaners, a new release of the Unofficial Devuan Minimal Live Images is available. You get more or less the same stuff you had on the previous release, namely: minimal disk footprint (about 256 MB); minimal RAM requirements (64MB on i386, 74MB on amd64); a full-monty console desktop experien

Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- new release

2016-05-31 Thread Jaromil
great stuff Katolaz! there is a growing consensus among the official Devuan developers team to include you and consider your effort as an official release of Devuan (minimal-live) due to its unique characteristics, attention to accessibility, usefulness and stability. We are already working on t

[DNG] What's the correct place for backgrounds, wallpapers etc.

2016-05-31 Thread emninger
I see in the Jessie installation the Devuan backgrounds are placed in /etc/alternatives. Is that a good place? One would expect them rather in /usr/share/wallpapers, or not? Cheers. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cg

[DNG] wm-logout

2016-05-31 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, While building the kernel, i've been working in a new package named wm-logout (window-manager-logout) common for the most of different window-managers: openbox, fluxbox, window maker... A combobox in the bottom of the application will allow you to switch a concrete one between all of

[DNG] Can't register in voat.co/v/devuan

2016-05-31 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, I can't register in the following forum: https://voat.co/v/devuan I wanted to replay to "iddunome" for his/her comment about linux-libre: https://voat.co/v/devuan/comments/1003091 So, i will answer in the mailing list: "I've been using linux-libre-3.16 in devuan and gnuinos during tw

Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- new release

2016-05-31 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:56:56AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > great stuff Katolaz! > > there is a growing consensus among the official Devuan developers team > to include you and consider your effort as an official release of > Devuan (minimal-live) due to its unique characteristics, attention to

Re: [DNG] What's the correct place for backgrounds, wallpapers etc.

2016-05-31 Thread fsmithred
On 05/31/2016 04:55 AM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > I see in the Jessie installation the Devuan backgrounds are placed > in /etc/alternatives. Is that a good place? One would expect them > rather in /usr/share/wallpapers, or not? > > Cheers. > ___ If

Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 07:48:09AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > I have just been informed Debian 8 (Jessie) can be installed without > systemd by using the command: > > preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" > > URL: > https://debiantalk.wordpress.com/2015/10/04/you-c

[DNG] comunity driven repositories

2016-05-31 Thread emninger
Hello list! Is it possible/wished to have comunity driven repositories for devuan? Background: trying to put together the stuff to make a viable JWM desktop for devuan, i realize there are some key applications/scripts/tools which are *NOT* in the devuan repositories (not even in testing or unstab

Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:44:49AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > Later on when I discovered GCC to be a mature compiler I switched to > that and never left it ever after. I'm even wary of LVM and all its Do you perhaps mean LLVM (low-level virtual machine) instead of LVM (logical volume manater)?

Re: [DNG] comunity driven repositories

2016-05-31 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Tue, 31 May 2016 17:00:32 +0200 wrote: > some more precisely? f. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] comunity driven repositories

2016-05-31 Thread Jaromil
dear emninger, On Tue, 31 May 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > Is it possible/wished to have comunity driven repositories for > devuan? Background: trying to put together the stuff to make a > viable JWM desktop for devuan, i realize there are some key > applications/scripts/tools which are *

Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread fsmithred
On 05/31/2016 09:53 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 07:48:09AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> I have just been informed Debian 8 (Jessie) can be installed without >> systemd by using the command: >> >> preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" >> >> URL:

[DNG] Is kernel 4.5.0 flakey ?

2016-05-31 Thread Haines Brown
I installed 64bit jessie on a new HDD, and initially used the 3.16.0 kernel. Then I installed the 4.50 kernel and ran into trouble. kernel:[25090.816205] NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU #7 stuck for 22!s [colord-sane:20969] This message is displayed every few seconds in whate

[DNG] ..weird new zzz-dist on Debian mirrors, to defeat us?, Fw: zzz-dist

2016-05-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..weird new zzz-dist is pushed out on Debian mirrors, to defeat our "merged" mirror scheme???, Fw: zzz-dist ..I understand our mirrors = Debian-sans-systemd + Devuan code Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:28:12 +0900 From: ISHIKAWA Mutsumi To: debian-mirr...@lists.debian

Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 05/31/2016 09:05 PM, fsmithred wrote: I do know two ways to install debian jessie without ever installing systemd: 1) Install TRIOS 2) 3) :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-31 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:44:49AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > > > Later on when I discovered GCC to be a mature compiler I switched to > > that and never left it ever after. I'm even wary of LVM and all its > > Do you perhaps mean LLVM (low-level virtual

Re: [DNG] Is kernel 4.5.0 flakey ?

2016-05-31 Thread Dave Turner
On 31/05/16 21:14, Haines Brown wrote: I installed 64bit jessie on a new HDD, and initially used the 3.16.0 kernel. Then I installed the 4.50 kernel and ran into trouble. kernel:[25090.816205] NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU #7 stuck for 22!s [colord-sane:20969] This mes

Re: [DNG] ..weird new zzz-dist on Debian mirrors, to defeat us?, Fw: zzz-dist

2016-05-31 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..weird new zzz-dist is pushed out on Debian mirrors, > to defeat our "merged" mirror scheme???, Fw: zzz-dist no. it is not to defeat us. it is not affecting amprolla. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 159

2016-05-31 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 31 May 2016 21:45:52 + schrieb Jaromil : [ . . . ] > yes we share the space on git.devuan.org > > from there code can go to jenkins builds and repository > here a sketch > https://devuan.org/os/press/devuan-ci-graph.png > > so be welcome to create a user on the gitlab and push there

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 159

2016-05-31 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 01 Jun 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > have that jwm desktop on *MY* devuan jessie installation up and > running smooth and fine, with a really very small footprint. And, > imho, pretty eye candy too (but that's about tastes, i know ;) ). > But to have that, i put together some tools, s

Re: [DNG] ..weird new zzz-dist on Debian mirrors, to defeat us?, Fw: zzz-dist

2016-05-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 00:12:58 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160531221258.GA9551@reflex>: > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..weird new zzz-dist is pushed out on Debian mirrors, > > to defeat our "merged" mirror scheme???, Fw: zzz-dist > > no. it is not to defeat us. it is not

Re: [DNG] Is kernel 4.5.0 flakey ?

2016-05-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 31 May 2016 16:14:58 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > I installed 64bit jessie on a new HDD, and initially used the 3.16.0 > kernel. Then I installed the 4.50 kernel and ran into trouble. > > kernel:[25090.816205] NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU #7 > stuck for 22!s > [col

[DNG] Devuan LXC Template: lxc-devuan

2016-05-31 Thread Greg Olsen
Hi Folks, I've been a lurker on this list since almost the very beginning, and this is my first post. I very much appreciate the work that's being done by everyone here with Devuan, and I thought it would be good to give back in some way. This is a little something for those who use, or wan

Re: [DNG] Devuan LXC Template: lxc-devuan

2016-05-31 Thread Ozi Traveller
Awesome thanks! Ozi On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Greg Olsen wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've been a lurker on this list since almost the very beginning, and this > is my first post. > > I very much appreciate the work that's being done by everyone here with > Devuan, and I thought it would be goo

Re: [DNG] What's the correct place for backgrounds, wallpapers etc.

2016-05-31 Thread hellekin
You may also install desktop themes in your user's $HOME: ~/.themes/foo == hk ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng