Could you please revive bastille linux for devuan. It's an essential hardining
script and it is unlikely anyone will have a secure system without it.
For some reason on the newer debian 7s it does not run (is this by design?)
On the older debian 7s it runs fine.
Debian removed it around the time t
wow. congrats on being highly offensive on your very first post.
anyway, i looked at Bastille and it's a highly tweaked script and
headed toward being a decade out of date. frankly i'm not surprised
it was dropped. Linux security needs an overhaul but your bastille
script is off mark.
--Gravis
On Wed, 2/11/15, Gravis wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan
To: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 7:55 AM
> wow. congrats on being highly offensive on your very first post.
>
> anyway, i looked at Bastille
> and it's a hig
On 10/02/15 11:34 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
On 2015-02-10 19:52, Wim wrote:
Hi,
Mark inquired about the source of my info on kali. I just saw kali on the
list at:
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation
Decided to do some re
Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan
Could you please revive bastille linux for devuan. It's an essential hardining
script and it is unlikely anyone will have a secure system without it.
For some reason on the newer debian 7s it does not run (is this by design?)
On the older debian 7
Decade out of date?
SysV is 3 decades "out of date"
Unix is 4 decades "out of date"
Please explain to me how the bastille script is "out of date", and why that is
bad.
Slackware, a great distribution, is similarly out of date.
Anything not using systemd (that trash) is out of date.
Why don't yo
2012 is a "Decade" out of date?
What the FUCK are you smoking you piece of shit.
SysV is 3 decades "out of date"
Unix is 4.
Do you quit your job before you have a new one lined up?
Do you you fucking retarded piece of shit.
I bet you create about as much as devuan has thusfar (sadly NOTHING).
What does it matter. Just dump linux like the trash it has become (have you seen what's happened to /etc/profile ?)The only people invested in linux these days are cunt pro-feminist pieces of shit (who should be killed all around the globe (please WW3 with russia to wipe these people out)) and peop
"gosh mikeeusa is back on the devuan list. good job their bans are effective"
Place and time pro-feminist faggot, You have a problem with me we should settle
it.
_
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John is a long-time Debian developer who opines on the complexity he
faces in Jessie:
http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9299-has-modern-linux-lost-its-way-some-thoughts-on-jessie
John clearly states that he believes the problems are distinct from
systemd. While many here may not necessarily
"Shopping list: sausages, viennetta and antifreeze. This'll be a great dinner."
Oh how hip and snarky! Wow
And the beard to hide the chinfat!
Nooice!
--- usspookslovesyste...@muchomail.com wrote:
From: "Usspookes Lovesystemd"
To:
Subject: [Dng] Place and time
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:23:4
Answer: Yes
Case in point: /etc/profile
"# The default umask is now handled by pam_umask.
# See pam_umask(8) and /etc/login.defs.
"
Perl+TK gui scripts from 2012 (that's only THREE years ago)
not working under debian stable anymore (when they worked under 7.1, 7.2, 7.3
etc... but not 7.8... yes
I'd like the old linux back too, but it won't happen.
Devuan has allready rejected the Bastille Linux hardening script because it is
"old" (A "decade" out of date) (Really 2012 was the last update, because it was
completed)
The Devuan people suffer from the same mental illness that the rest of th
Perl and TK depreciating / becoming incompatable with code within the "same"
stable release.
(Oh and ngcurses got an "update" too, where the routines for writing to a file
from curses script dissappeared)
That is unacceptable, insane. TK!
TK is only use for sysadmin type guis, and sometimes confi
Hi all,
Devuan Weekly News XI posed the following question:
==
Talking about something else, it seems that the list is becoming
two-fold. On one hand, it becomes concentrated on development, while
at the same time it discusses more philosophical issues.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:59:03AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Devuan Weekly News XI posed the following question:
>
> ==
> Talking about something else, it seems that the list is becoming
> two-fold. On one hand, it becomes concentrated on development, w
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 08:55:07AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> wow. congrats on being highly offensive on your very first post.
>
> anyway, i looked at Bastille and it's a highly tweaked script and
> headed toward being a decade out of date. frankly i'm not surprised
> it was dropped. Linux security
I don't believe the task is impossible, I'm sure there are people
working on such a tool and perhaps they will even open source it!
Regards,
-Roy
On 2/11/2015 11:01 AM, Jack L. Frost wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 08:55:07AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
wow. congrats on being highly offensive on you
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:10:27AM -0700, Roy Nielsen wrote:
> I don't believe the task is impossible, I'm sure there are people
> working on such a tool and perhaps they will even open source it!
>
> Regards,
> -Roy
As an industry specialist dealing with security even as a non-infosec guy, I'm
c
Nothing is completely secure, there is always a way in: computers do
what you tell them to do.
Security exists in layers.
What bastille does is all those basic linux-security setup things that
you may FORGET to do otherwise.
Yes you also have to patch and compile the kernel with grsecurity.
Yes yo
Why the hell do you laugh and make a joke of this. You people really are scum.The goal wasn't to dot every I and cross every T. The goal was to dot as many i's and as many T's one could think of in a normal Linux (UNIX LIKE LINUX) install.And that goal WAS achieved. Bastille is a great post-install
Dilute everything further, good idea.
Maybe a list for each and every topic next.
--- sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
From: Steve Litt
To: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
Subject: [Dng] About separate mailing lists
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:59:03 -0500
Hi all,
Devuan Weekly News XI posed the following
Devuan is all about talk and process, nothing's been release, and you people
pooh pooh longstanding useful security tools. You don't know what you're doing,
except in the realm of rolling some euros into a blunt to smoke. So why not
split the list up before you even have anything to show for it?
Oh, Ok. Sorry then.
I've used Bastille since it came out. I know there's more to linux security
than what it does, but it is very very
useful for setting some baseline things up post install. It doesn't do
everything, but what it does is easy to forget
between deployments. It also explains every
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:53:01 -0800
"Usspookes Lovesystemd" wrote:
> FUCK YOU
Qu'en termes gracieux ces choses là sont dites...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Animals can be driven crazy by putting too many in too small a pen.
Homo sapiens is the only animal that voluntarily does this to himself.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:41:48AM -0800, Usspookes Lovesystemd wrote:
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>
> You are shitsucking scum in that you won't have Bastille for Devuan. It shows
> EXACTLY
> what you people are: rentseekers. You want your cut for each install (as
> security expert) FUCK YOU.
>
Have you ever tho
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:53:01AM -0800, Usspookes Lovesystemd wrote:
> Devuan is all about talk and process, nothing's been release, and you people
> pooh pooh longstanding useful security tools. You don't know what you're
> doing, except in the realm of rolling some euros into a blunt to smoke
This one's a troll. I've added his new address to my killfile already.
-Jude
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:41:48AM -0800, Usspookes Lovesystemd wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > You are shitsucking scum in that you won't have Bastille for Devuan. It
> sh
>On 10/02/15 11:34 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
>> On 2015-02-10 19:52, Wim wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark inquired about the source of my info on kali. I just saw kali on the
>>> list at:
>>>
>>> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installat
I am not a dev at devuan but wants to have an ear in on what's going on
Would not be interested at all in user mailing list. Have had enough of
flame fights regarding systemd
Did contribute money to the cause
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Jack L. Frost wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:59
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If find conversations like this annoying and inappropriate for a BLOG
that portends to be for building a new distribution of Linux.
When working (I'm retired) I dealt with such intransigent attitudes
across the spectrum. From my first work with comp
Hi guys,Sorry if it was asked before, I'm relatively new to here.What's yer take on following Debian's way in dealing with trademarks and non free stuff? I mean like rebranding Mozilla products, creating categories in repos like main contrib and non free and also not including non free firmware in
daniel.cegie...@gmail.com:
> 2015-01-31 2:35 GMT+01:00 william moss :
...
> and more:
>
> * LILO will not boot if you use something else than the MBR, this means:
> * LILO will not boot if you GPT.
> * You will not use HDD bigger than 2TB.
>
> and:
>
> * LILO will not boot if you something else
My question is, is it part of the default installation or did you
(inadvertently) add it afterwards?
--Gravis
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Clarke Sideroad
wrote:
> On 10/02/15 11:34 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
>
> On 2015-02-10 19:52, Wim wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Mark inquired about the source of my i
Hey Jaromil,
I just want to make sure I'm doing this right (and I apologize in advance
if I am not). I imported dbus from Debian upstream, including previous
tags and commit histories, into the dbus repository in git.devuan.org. I
merged the fix for CVE-2015-0245. I tagged it as "1.8.16-1+devua
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:12:17 +0300
mitt_gr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> And also I want (hopelessly?) Devuan community to be more kind and
> soft [than Debian]
It's almost impossible for a list to be meaner than Debian-User.
I /dev/nulled about six people my first day at Debian-User, and
continued 86in
John weighs in with a followup:
http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9304-reactions-to-has-modern-linux-lost-its-way-and-the-value-of-simplicity
- Nate
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."
Ham radio, Linux, bikes, an
well the default installation does not actually have systemd installed
which sets it apart from other distros that are not on the list.
therefore, Kali should remain on the list of "Operating systems
without systemd in the default installation". the libraries are
annoying but they are merely inter
On 02/11/2015 05:12 PM, mitt_gr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Sorry if it was asked before, I'm relatively new to here.
>
> What's yer take on following Debian's way in dealing with trademarks and non
> free stuff?
>
*** Hi Mitt,
nobody should expect anything from Devuan beyond what has
Can we make some option with a "ban this user" link at the bottom of
emails, and when enough listusers click the link, a message is flagged for
review?
On 11 February 2015 at 20:41, Usspookes Lovesystemd <
usspookslovesyste...@muchomail.com> wrote:
> Nothing is completely secure, there is always
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 06:24:37AM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
> Can we make some option with a "ban this user" link at the bottom of
> emails, and when enough listusers click the link, a message is flagged for
> review?
Or at least a manual swing of the banhammer.
--
// If you believe in so-
"John clearly states that he believes the problems are distinct from
systemd. While many here may not necessarily agree, I do agree that various
aspects of the system have become, if not complex, at least more opaque
than in the past.”
You're right. I think the problems, and frankly systemd as w
Nice post, thanks!
My €0.02 - About the time that MS introduced "Software Assurance" (2002 or
so?) I headed up a team to develop an "Enterprise Linux Desktop", and we
had great success. Although we didn't manage to fully execute on our
mission (deploy to 10.000 workstations for organization I was
links added on my systemd vault in the philosophy and architecture section :
http://neofutur.net/systemd-vault
I keep adding interesting and related links ( and dependency graphs ),
please all feel free to ping me on irc #debianfork or #rootslinux when
you find somehting that should be added on t
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 07:33:51AM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
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>
> Whilst I am still utterly amazed with how awesome Linux servers are, I
> don't think we will ever get there with desktops.
>
Agree. That's exactly why, IMHO, we should focus on what GNU/Linux
does better, and refrain fr
Agree. That's exactly why, IMHO, we should focus on what GNU/Linux
> does better, and refrain from gladly and blindly embracing the last
> miscarriage-piece-of-software "for the good of the large masses of
> desktop users". Simply put, there are no large masses of desktop
> users, and IMHO never wi
On 02/12/2015 09:21 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
Agree. That's exactly why, IMHO, we should focus on what GNU/Linux
does better, and refrain from gladly and blindly embracing the last
miscarriage-piece-of-software "for the good of the large masses of
desktop users".
One solution is to clearly segment di
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